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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1161 » by hugepatsfan » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:30 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:They need to re-sign Hauser to a quality contract, if only to trade him for Rob down the line...

Rob is just too fragile.


It was a joke...


Give it time. He will sign back here for the minimum in 2 more years.
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Post#1162 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:31 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Rob is just too fragile.


It was a joke...


Give it time. He will sign back here for the minimum in 2 more years.


He can replace Theis...
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Post#1163 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:52 pm

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How could this not have been known earlier?

I'd understand if he were a foreigner. I once had a student who was exceedingly dumb, and took a while to realize this because he was an English-challenged foreigner. Eventually I realized he must be dumb in his native language as well ...

But this guy is an American, who went to American schools.


This isn’t real. The guy makes up stories, just check his previous posts.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1164 » by hugepatsfan » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:52 pm

It sounds contradictory, but since the Baylor pick in theory makes Hauser more expendable down the line, that makes it more important IMO that they extend him this offseason. If it comes to it, he is easier to trade with an extension in place than he is on his current minimum salary expiring deal.

Preferably, I'd like to go the route of declining his team option and re-signing him to a higher salary starting this year. Then by the deadline he'd be tradable at that higher number which makes it much more viable to trade him for an actual rotation player.

Porzingis is recovering from surgery and is always an injury risk. Horford requires lots of load management and pushing 40 years old none of us can act like it'd be shocking if his play just dropped off a cliff at some point. Kornet, even if he's back is not a playoff rotation caliber big man for the long haul. People like Tillman, but to date he isn't that type of player either (though I'd like to bring him back because if the shot develops a bit he could be). Longer term, Horford's contract is up next year Porzingis the year after too. There's a very high probability that a starting and/or backup center becomes a crucial team need as soon as this upcoming deadline and having a viable contract to trade for one would be huge.
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Post#1165 » by cl2117 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:05 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:It sounds contradictory, but since the Baylor pick in theory makes Hauser more expendable down the line, that makes it more important IMO that they extend him this offseason. If it comes to it, he is easier to trade with an extension in place than he is on his current minimum salary expiring deal.

Preferably, I'd like to go the route of declining his team option and re-signing him to a higher salary starting this year. Then by the deadline he'd be tradable at that higher number which makes it much more viable to trade him for an actual rotation player.

Porzingis is recovering from surgery and is always an injury risk. Horford requires lots of load management and pushing 40 years old none of us can act like it'd be shocking if his play just dropped off a cliff at some point. Kornet, even if he's back is not a playoff rotation caliber big man for the long haul. People like Tillman, but to date he isn't that type of player either (though I'd like to bring him back because if the shot develops a bit he could be). Longer term, Horford's contract is up next year Porzingis the year after too. There's a very high probability that a starting and/or backup center becomes a crucial team need as soon as this upcoming deadline and having a viable contract to trade for one would be huge.

I'm 100% on board with this. Sign Sam to effectively MLE money and it opens up a lot of options for us to make moves. Horford comes off the books the following year so net/net we are in a similar position.

If Baylor is ready to step into those Sam's shoes, Hauser can be moved with picks for Horford's heir. My favorite option for this is Wendell Carter Jr. He makes $12m next year, declines to $11m the following year. Fits Joe's system great and age-wise he lines up perfectly with the Jays.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1166 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:06 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:It sounds contradictory, but since the Baylor pick in theory makes Hauser more expendable down the line, that makes it more important IMO that they extend him this offseason. If it comes to it, he is easier to trade with an extension in place than he is on his current minimum salary expiring deal.

Preferably, I'd like to go the route of declining his team option and re-signing him to a higher salary starting this year. Then by the deadline he'd be tradable at that higher number which makes it much more viable to trade him for an actual rotation player.

Porzingis is recovering from surgery and is always an injury risk. Horford requires lots of load management and pushing 40 years old none of us can act like it'd be shocking if his play just dropped off a cliff at some point. Kornet, even if he's back is not a playoff rotation caliber big man for the long haul. People like Tillman, but to date he isn't that type of player either (though I'd like to bring him back because if the shot develops a bit he could be). Longer term, Horford's contract is up next year Porzingis the year after too. There's a very high probability that a starting and/or backup center becomes a crucial team need as soon as this upcoming deadline and having a viable contract to trade for one would be huge.


Good argument.

We're out of the S&T business in either direction. So a workaround is to sign now, trade later.

That said, what you're suggesting is a deliberate move to raise our overall payroll -- or avoid lowering it -- which could be very expensive for reasons of luxury/repeater taxes.
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Post#1167 » by djFan71 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:17 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:It sounds contradictory, but since the Baylor pick in theory makes Hauser more expendable down the line, that makes it more important IMO that they extend him this offseason. If it comes to it, he is easier to trade with an extension in place than he is on his current minimum salary expiring deal.

Preferably, I'd like to go the route of declining his team option and re-signing him to a higher salary starting this year. Then by the deadline he'd be tradable at that higher number which makes it much more viable to trade him for an actual rotation player.

Porzingis is recovering from surgery and is always an injury risk. Horford requires lots of load management and pushing 40 years old none of us can act like it'd be shocking if his play just dropped off a cliff at some point. Kornet, even if he's back is not a playoff rotation caliber big man for the long haul. People like Tillman, but to date he isn't that type of player either (though I'd like to bring him back because if the shot develops a bit he could be). Longer term, Horford's contract is up next year Porzingis the year after too. There's a very high probability that a starting and/or backup center becomes a crucial team need as soon as this upcoming deadline and having a viable contract to trade for one would be huge.

I'm 100% on board with this. Sign Sam to effectively MLE money and it opens up a lot of options for us to make moves. Horford comes off the books the following year so net/net we are in a similar position.

If Baylor is ready to step into those Sam's shoes, Hauser can be moved with picks for Horford's heir. My favorite option for this is Wendell Carter Jr. He makes $12m next year, declines to $11m the following year. Fits Joe's system great and age-wise he lines up perfectly with the Jays.

Love WCJ. His injury history is scary, though. He's only cracked 60 games once in 6 years. I'd still do it, though.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1168 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Heard a couple of callers on Sports Radio (I was bored) that cooked up a Hauser trade idea for the season, you'd never guess who they wanted to deal him for. Somehow the scenario was trade Hauser and get Marcus back because you can find shooting anywhere but you can't find players who make winning plays and play with heart and soul. Just odd
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Post#1169 » by 165bows » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:27 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:It sounds contradictory, but since the Baylor pick in theory makes Hauser more expendable down the line, that makes it more important IMO that they extend him this offseason. If it comes to it, he is easier to trade with an extension in place than he is on his current minimum salary expiring deal.

Preferably, I'd like to go the route of declining his team option and re-signing him to a higher salary starting this year. Then by the deadline he'd be tradable at that higher number which makes it much more viable to trade him for an actual rotation player.

Porzingis is recovering from surgery and is always an injury risk. Horford requires lots of load management and pushing 40 years old none of us can act like it'd be shocking if his play just dropped off a cliff at some point. Kornet, even if he's back is not a playoff rotation caliber big man for the long haul. People like Tillman, but to date he isn't that type of player either (though I'd like to bring him back because if the shot develops a bit he could be). Longer term, Horford's contract is up next year Porzingis the year after too. There's a very high probability that a starting and/or backup center becomes a crucial team need as soon as this upcoming deadline and having a viable contract to trade for one would be huge.

It's too bad tax-wise if they can't keep the team together, but having a re-signed Hauser plus a pick is a pretty darn great trade chip to move forward with after this year. I've always been bullish on the guy but then also on the flip side there is a history of similar guys not looking great on a bigger deal (Bertans and Duncan Robinson come to mind, H. Barnes and Tobias Harris to a lesser extent). Not to put that on Hauser but his yearly cold month or two looks a lot worse on a huge deal.

Long story short unfortunate if he prices himself out long term but huge consolation prize if they flip a former UDFA into a title-winning role player then valuable trade commodity, let's see what Brad can do to cement goat status.

Edit: If that is the case, they need to go big game hunting for the next legit Celtics big man. Add picks or whatever, lots of bigs going on and off the market.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1170 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:37 pm

Using a pick for Flip will be a good idea IMO.

KP out until January means the Cs are going to need a reliable Center.

Al is just too old to play heavy minutes.
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Post#1171 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:49 pm

A re-signed Hauser, then dealing him in the next two years for a Draft Pick (where you select an NBA ready Big) makes
some sense, Tax and talent wise... I would think if Hauser continues to progress and with the premium placed on shooters, you could get a Top 20 Pick for him, perhaps close to the Lottery...
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Post#1172 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:10 pm

Trying to think who we could actually get with the min.

Will we be the next team that tries to make Mo Bamba a thing? The 3 and rim protection is and always will be intriguing.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1173 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 pm

Let Baylor play before we talk about him making someone more expendable. He could be terrible or he could be great, that has nothing to do with Sam atm. Poor Sam has a foot out the door with most of the media and fans already. Sam isn’t easily replaceable, otherwise everyone wouldn’t think he’d have a chance to be out of our price range.

Do I hope he is as good as Sam (better)? yes, but that is only because it would make him an excellent piece for the team! If Celts would spend that money I would love even more having “two Sams!”


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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1174 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:30 pm

You should never trust Twitter/X. We already have Lonnie Walker according to them. Another guy called picks and trades that weren’t even close. I have said this before but Twitter is the devil! :lol:
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Post#1175 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:33 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Using a pick for Flip will be a good idea IMO.

KP out until January means the Cs are going to need a reliable Center.

Al is just too old to play heavy minutes.

Is Flip a reliable center?
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Post#1176 » by brackdan70 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:34 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:Trying to think who we could actually get with the min.

Will we be the next team that tries to make Mo Bamba a thing? The 3 and rim protection is and always will be intriguing.

Dario Saric?
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Post#1177 » by playa-hater » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:43 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Using a pick for Flip will be a good idea IMO.

KP out until January means the Cs are going to need a reliable Center.

Al is just too old to play heavy minutes.

Is Flip a reliable center?


Although no rookie is proven at some point you have to make reasonable projections and say that flip should be able to help us out in some capacity right away.
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Post#1178 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:12 pm

Reading the GB it makes no difference what any team in the league does now, Knicks now have both Anunoby and Bridges and the GOAT Brunson.

Apparently to most Brunson is superior to Tatum, Randle is superior to brown, and then OG, Mikal and the bench is superior to anything else the celtics have.

Apparently as well OG and MIkal are now creators and offensive threats who both average over 20ppg


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Post#1179 » by canman1971 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:14 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Reading the GB it makes no difference what any team in the league does now, Knicks now have both Anunoby and Bridges and the GOAT Brunson.

Apparently to most Brunson is superior to Tatum, Randle is superior to brown, and then OG, Mikal and the bench is superior to anything else the celtics have.

Apparently as well OG and MIkal are now creators and offensive threats who both average over 20ppg


lol

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Post#1180 » by London2Boston » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:29 pm

I’m gonna have so much fun seeing our guys take turn to torment Brunson Defensively in a playoff matchup. It will be worse than what Luka had to deal with. People will realise very quickly how silly it is to put him above Tatum.

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