2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[Shamrock23]

We had Raynaud, Kalkbrenner two bigs on the board at 32. But we also had Rasheer Fleming available at #28 who could be a smallball stretch 5. Onyeka Okongwu plays mainly at the five and Okongwu is a reported 6-9 with a 7-1 wingspan (reported because Onyeka wasn't measured at his predraft combine). Rasheer Fleming was 6-8.25 barefoot with a 7-5 wingspan.

Anyway, the draft is done. We took Amari Williams who doesn't seem like hes going to receive a 4 yr rookie scale standard contract. We didn't take Fleming, Kalk or Raynaud.

Time for me to let it go.

Believe me, I hold the exact same sentiment and received a lot of flak because apparently there's absolutely no chance any of those guys could end up being better than Kornet.

I'm pretty pissed about that but that ship has failed and I've shifted my perspective onto what would make me excited for next season and taht would be Anfernee Simons. But then we hear this news that he'll probably be moved just so we can keep Al and Kornet. SMH.

Brad is a weirdo when it comes to drafting. His drafts never made sense to me. Oh well, we'll just see those players mentioned flourish with other teams while we keep our draft picks sitting on the bench.

[djFan71]

Goodbye JD...

Read on Twitter

It's inevitable.

Yes and no, lol. It depends on if we make deals that bring extra guys back or not. Hes about as cheap a final guy as you can get. So, those savings numbers aren’t real if we have a roster spot to fill. If we have 14 guys other ways, he’s probably gone.

My guess is they extend the deadline on this to give more time to see what else happens.

[klemen44]

Saving 5 million in Jru and 22 milion in Porzingis trade was heavy lifting.

Now its like a childs play for Zarren and Brad.

Prichard
White
Jb
Jt
??? (center)

4 players are keepers... While all the others moves I expect Bostonwill get starting caliber center for jb/jt prime years.

Simmons contract and quality is the eadiest way to god C so Im sure if traded quality C will come back in a trade.

Al and Lukeare just role players, so if they come for minimum ok, if not no big deal.

[Fierce1]

Goodbye JD...

Read on Twitter

It's inevitable.

Yes and no, lol. It depends on if we make deals that bring extra guys back or not. Hes about as cheap a final guy as you can get. So, those savings numbers aren’t real if we have a roster spot to fill. If we have 14 guys other ways, he’s probably gone.

My guess is they extend the deadline on this to give more time to see what else happens.

He's just not an NBA player.

Guess there's a possibility he stays, depending on cap situation.

But I just have not seen the NBA player in JD.

[ajones9219]

I don't want to trade Simons but if Chicago is doing a fire sale:

Simons and whatever draft capital for Coby White and Jalen Smith.

That trade saves you around 5 million. Then trade Niang as a dump with a second round pick attached. Now you're almost 18 million under the second apron.

Grab Al and Luke back and ride

Starters: DWhite/CWhite/Brown/Horford/Smith
Reserves: Pritchard/Scheierman/Hauser/Peterson/Luke

Plus the young guys

Honestly that team with Tatum back absolutely bangs.

[Memokerobi]

Like everyone else here, I love Al. But for a front office thats trying to cut salary wherever they can and going into a non contending reset year or two, it makes no sense to me to prioritize re-signing him. He doesn’t fit our new timeline. If its for sentimental reasons then fine but there is no basketball reason. That’s just the reality of it.

[Fierce1]

I would do Coby White for Simons.

Will Chicago do it?

[Fierce1]

Coby White would be better a fit with the Cs.

We'll also have an all White backcourt.

[BillessuR6]

In our situation the only sensible thing is to get out of tax completely.

We are not going to extend Simons, so he should be traded. With two max contracts and White we cannot afford another guy making 25-30 mio, which Simons will command.

So, who has cap space? Brooklyn and probably Detroit. More realistic is a multi team trade with smaller contracts going to third teams into TPEs...

I doubt we get anything noteworthy back, probably a couple of 2nd rounders...

I just hope we do not give too much to Kornet who is a decent player but in this situation not really needed...

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[hugepatsfan]

In our situation the only sensible thing is to get out of tax completely.

We are not going to extend Simons, so he should be traded. With two max contracts and White we cannot afford another guy making 25-30 mio, which Simons will command.

So, who has cap space? Brooklyn and probably Detroit. More realistic is a multi team trade with smaller contracts going to third teams into TPEs...

I doubt we get anything noteworthy back, probably a couple of 2nd rounders...

I just hope we do not give too much to Kornet who is a decent player but in this situation not really needed...

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I disagree they can’t afford another guy making 25-30m. Maybe that’s a bit high but 20-25m works. I think they’d current payroll structure for the most part is actually very sustainable:

Tatum
Brown
White
Simons
Hauser
Pritchard
Rookie scale/minimum guys

The problem is there’s no big man. Bad balance. Have to move one of those guys for a starting caliber big and being realistic a good starting caliber big is going to have to come from the Simons salary slot, which is why he should be traded IMO.

[Fierce1]

Big man problem?

Simons for Vucevic.

Beggars can't be choosers, right?

[Curmudgeon]

Nah. You want someone cheaper than Vucevic for Simons. Now that the Kings have drafted Reynaud, Valanciunas should be available. Herb Jones would also be on my list.

[sam_I_am]

Since there has been little hype for Simons from front office and deals are not finalized ….. there has to be another move about yo be made. If we keep Simons then I suspect Hauser is gone but I think they are trying to flip him.

[Fierce1]

Nah. You want someone cheaper than Vucevic for Simons. Now that the Kings have drafted Reynaud, Valanciunas should be available. Herb Jones would also be on my list.

Valanciunas does not shoot 3s.

Herb Jones is only 6-7.
That's not a Center.

Going from Simons to Vooch is 6m savings.

Cs get 4.5m + 6m = 10m from that trade.

That should be enough for Luke and Al and you get to keep Sam.

[Fierce1]

System and fit, Vooch is that guy for Mazzulla-Ball.

Too bad Vooch is 34 going 35.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd take a look at James Wiseman (also currently rehabbing a torn achilles) before trading for Vucevic. They need rim protection and some beef more than they need another three point shooter. Isaiah Stewart would also be on my list, or a resigned Bobby Portis, depending on the numbers. Also Jalen Smith.

[SuperDeluxe]

Since there has been little hype for Simons from front office and deals are not finalized ….. there has to be another move about yo be made. If we keep Simons then I suspect Hauser is gone but I think they are trying to flip him.

I think there hasn't been any hype because the trades won't be official until July 6.

[31to6]

I used to lobby for Vuc, but no longer.

Trading Hauser seems like short-sighted thinking. As in: he’s great value, long term, for a team built around one or two supermax Js. Should be in the same category as Pritchard: a keeper. (Even if Hugo Gonz is amazing)

But I’d ditch Niang’s $8.5M in a heartbeat, use those two 2s just acquired from ORL if you need to

[165bows]

In our situation the only sensible thing is to get out of tax completely.

We are not going to extend Simons, so he should be traded. With two max contracts and White we cannot afford another guy making 25-30 mio, which Simons will command.

So, who has cap space? Brooklyn and probably Detroit. More realistic is a multi team trade with smaller contracts going to third teams into TPEs...

I doubt we get anything noteworthy back, probably a couple of 2nd rounders...

I just hope we do not give too much to Kornet who is a decent player but in this situation not really needed...

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I disagree they can’t afford another guy making 25-30m. Maybe that’s a bit high but 20-25m works. I think they’d current payroll structure for the most part is actually very sustainable:

Tatum
Brown
White
Simons
Hauser
Pritchard
Rookie scale/minimum guys

The problem is there’s no big man. Bad balance. Have to move one of those guys for a starting caliber big and being realistic a good starting caliber big is going to have to come from the Simons salary slot, which is why he should be traded IMO.

Well it’s clear who they want for their bigs, Luke and Al.

I think the two clear guys they would want back are PJ Washington or Brandon Clarke. Reasonable deals, the right age, both guys are squeezed for playing time (esp PJ being on an expiring deal). Could throw Rui in there but distant third for me due to contract and more.

They’d just need to figure out what those teams want because I doubt Boston has it or wants to give it up at this point.

[chrisab123]

Can’t wait for FA to start. Half the board wants the Celtics to be cheap and slash and the other half of the board thinks the Celtics will slash because it’s now owned by private equity.