Trade Ideas Thread

[Ernest]

Warriors out: Wiggins and Number 2
in: Hayward and Timelord

Get an ideal SF/PF and a cheap rim running defensive shotblocker.

Kings out: Hield
Kings in: Wiggins, #26

Kings take on no extra long term salary but adds a better fit and a pick to their core. Move away from the headache that Buddy was creating.

Celtics out: Hayward, Timelord, #26
In; #2, Hield

Celtics trade Hayward for the number 2 and a poor defensive, current malcontent in Hield


Terrible? or not so terrible?

Why take a step back? We are pretty close to a title as it is. Tatum Brown and Smart will all improve. The young guys too. Also, finding a good cheap center isn't that easy. Williams might be that guy for us next season.

[100proof]

Warriors out: Wiggins and Number 2
in: Hayward and Timelord

Get an ideal SF/PF and a cheap rim running defensive shotblocker.

Kings out: Hield
Kings in: Wiggins, #26

Kings take on no extra long term salary but adds a better fit and a pick to their core. Move away from the headache that Buddy was creating.

Celtics out: Hayward, Timelord, #26
In; #2, Hield

Celtics trade Hayward for the number 2 and a poor defensive, current malcontent in Hield


Terrible? or not so terrible?

Why take a step back? We are pretty close to a title as it is. Tatum Brown and Smart will all improve. The young guys too. Also, finding a good cheap center isn't that easy. Williams might be that guy for us next season.

I place alot of value on wiseman.

[stretch]

Core of first trade: Send out Kemba Walker to bring in Russell Westbrook
Core of second trade: Send out Gordon Hayward to bring in Steven Adams

Westbrook / Smart / Brown / Tatum / Adams

Ask Smart, Brown, Tatum and Adams to spend the entire offseason practicing 3-pointers

I want a 31 year old Russ if we're going to go up against Brooklyn with KD and Kyrie, and Miami with another superstar
Russ, Smart and Brown will keep the competitive fire alive. Russ will make sure we don't settle for 3's and keep driving

[djFan71]

* Standard don't wanna trade Hayward caveats apply, but if we did...

BOS: Batum, #18, '21 CHA lotto protected for Hayward, 30, Poirier
DAL: Hayward for THJ, Wright, 18
CHA: THJ, Wright, Poirier, 30 for Batum, lotto protected '21.

CHA gets 2 useful players, off Batum a year early, and an extra pick this year for a future lotto protected.
DAL: Upgrades to Hayward, frees '21 offseason salary as well.
BOS: $9.6M TPE, duck tax, upgrade from 30 to 18 and add a future pick.

We have 14,18,26 in the draft. Batum could be a useful salary at the trade deadline too.

I haven't though it thru a ton, so comments welcome. My first thought is it's awful for us. Obviously we downgrade in talent next year. But the extra picks and TPE are nice. And this is in the Hayward moving on scenario.

Not sure who's making out here, probably CHA? If so, remove 30. Then we'd have 4 1sts, but could do some other trades, take a shot at Poku, etc.

[100proof]

* Standard don't wanna trade Hayward caveats apply, but if we did...

BOS: Batum, #18, '21 CHA lotto protected for Hayward, 30, Poirier
DAL: Hayward for THJ, Wright, 18
CHA: THJ, Wright, Poirier, 30 for Batum, lotto protected '21.

CHA gets 2 useful players, off Batum a year early, and an extra pick this year for a future lotto protected.
DAL: Upgrades to Hayward, frees '21 offseason salary as well.
BOS: $9.6M TPE, duck tax, upgrade from 30 to 18 and add a future pick.

We have 14,18,26 in the draft. Batum could be a useful salary at the trade deadline too.

I haven't though it thru a ton, so comments welcome. My first thought is it's awful for us. Obviously we downgrade in talent next year. But the extra picks and TPE are nice. And this is in the Hayward moving on scenario.

Not sure who's making out here, probably CHA? If so, remove 30. Then we'd have 4 1sts, but could do some other trades, take a shot at Poku, etc.

I think its way too good for charlotte.
Would rather a year of thj here off the bench.
Wright to Charlotte is interesting though.


I would do it if i could flip batum elsewhere. Heck even batum and 26 for griffin and 7??
Batum to philly for horford plus back?
Batum plus picks for chris paul?
Batum plus picks for gobert if he demands out?
Batum for adams
Batum for aldridge
Batum for oladipo
Batum + 14 +18 for winslow and jonas v?

Or

Hayward and batum and 30 to dallas
Powell and wright to charlotte
Thj and brunson and 18 to boston.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

* Standard don't wanna trade Hayward caveats apply, but if we did...

BOS: Batum, #18, '21 CHA lotto protected for Hayward, 30, Poirier
DAL: Hayward for THJ, Wright, 18
CHA: THJ, Wright, Poirier, 30 for Batum, lotto protected '21.

CHA gets 2 useful players, off Batum a year early, and an extra pick this year for a future lotto protected.
DAL: Upgrades to Hayward, frees '21 offseason salary as well.
BOS: $9.6M TPE, duck tax, upgrade from 30 to 18 and add a future pick.

We have 14,18,26 in the draft. Batum could be a useful salary at the trade deadline too.

I haven't though it thru a ton, so comments welcome. My first thought is it's awful for us. Obviously we downgrade in talent next year. But the extra picks and TPE are nice. And this is in the Hayward moving on scenario.

Not sure who's making out here, probably CHA? If so, remove 30. Then we'd have 4 1sts, but could do some other trades, take a shot at Poku, etc.

I think its way too good for charlotte.
Would rather a year of thj here off the bench.
Wright to Charlotte is interesting though.


I would do it if i could flip batum elsewhere. Heck even batum and 26 for griffin and 7??
Batum to philly for horford plus back?
Batum plus picks for chris paul?
Batum plus picks for gobert if he demands out?
Batum for adams
Batum for aldridge
Batum for oladipo
Batum + 14 +18 for winslow and jonas v?

Or

Hayward and batum and 30 to dallas
Powell and wright to charlotte
Thj and brunson and 18 to boston.

lol, yeah I thought so too with CHA, but I posted on the trade board with 26 (instead of 30) and the first CHA dude hated it. I dunno anymore... it's at worst a 9 spot downgrade a year later for turning Batum into 2 useful players. But it was shot down in flames, lol.

[100proof]

Spoiler:

* Standard don't wanna trade Hayward caveats apply, but if we did...

BOS: Batum, #18, '21 CHA lotto protected for Hayward, 30, Poirier
DAL: Hayward for THJ, Wright, 18
CHA: THJ, Wright, Poirier, 30 for Batum, lotto protected '21.

CHA gets 2 useful players, off Batum a year early, and an extra pick this year for a future lotto protected.
DAL: Upgrades to Hayward, frees '21 offseason salary as well.
BOS: $9.6M TPE, duck tax, upgrade from 30 to 18 and add a future pick.

We have 14,18,26 in the draft. Batum could be a useful salary at the trade deadline too.

I haven't though it thru a ton, so comments welcome. My first thought is it's awful for us. Obviously we downgrade in talent next year. But the extra picks and TPE are nice. And this is in the Hayward moving on scenario.

Not sure who's making out here, probably CHA? If so, remove 30. Then we'd have 4 1sts, but could do some other trades, take a shot at Poku, etc.

I think its way too good for charlotte.
Would rather a year of thj here off the bench.
Wright to Charlotte is interesting though.


I would do it if i could flip batum elsewhere. Heck even batum and 26 for griffin and 7??
Batum to philly for horford plus back?
Batum plus picks for chris paul?
Batum plus picks for gobert if he demands out?
Batum for adams
Batum for aldridge
Batum for oladipo
Batum + 14 +18 for winslow and jonas v?

Or

Hayward and batum and 30 to dallas
Powell and wright to charlotte
Thj and brunson and 18 to boston.

lol, yeah I thought so too with CHA, but I posted on the trade board with 26 (instead of 30) and the first CHA dude hated it. I dunno anymore... it's at worst a 9 spot downgrade a year later for turning Batum into 2 useful players. But it was shot down in flames, lol.

Iam convinced some of their fans are delusional.

I had one tell me that wiggins was worth an mle level 6th man contract

Kid is 25 and put up 22, 5boards and 4 assists per game.

Hes not a superstr but he is becoming demar derozan level.

[djFan71]

Iam convinced some of their fans are delusional.

I had one tell me that wiggins was worth an mle level 6th man contract

Kid is 25 and put up 22, 5boards and 4 assists per game.

Hes not a superstr but he is becoming demar derozan level.

All fans seem to think their team is going to do magical things with $9M in cap space next offseason revealing heretofore unknown depths of mastery of transactions by their GM. Possible, but.... shrug.

[Triple7]

I wouldn’t mind trading Kemba for a good, decent C. After watching this series against the Heat, i’m convinced we can’t win with Kemba. The defensive liability he brings is just too much. The fact that he can’t playmake because he’s used to play iso for several years, doesn’t help his cause. I don’t **** understand what’s Danny’s facination with diminutive pg’s.

[100proof]

I wouldn’t mind trading Kemba for a good, decent C. After watching this series against the Heat, i’m convinced we can’t win with Kemba. The defensive liability he brings is just too much. The fact that he can’t playmake because he’s used to play iso for several years, doesn’t help his cause. I don’t **** understand what’s Danny’s facination with diminutive pg’s.

He was a diminutive PG.

But I agree, I think Kemba needs to be shopped. He was acquired for asset retention and IMO for no other reason than that.

[Triple7]

I wouldn’t mind trading Kemba for a good, decent C. After watching this series against the Heat, i’m convinced we can’t win with Kemba. The defensive liability he brings is just too much. The fact that he can’t playmake because he’s used to play iso for several years, doesn’t help his cause. I don’t **** understand what’s Danny’s facination with diminutive pg’s.

He was a diminutive PG.

But I agree, I think Kemba needs to be shopped. He was acquired for asset retention and IMO for no other reason than that.

Yup he needs to go. Just imagine if we face the lakers or nuggets. Who the hell would Kemba guard. I actually feel bad for Kemba. I know he tries hard, but he is just limited in that aspect. He was just exposed this playoffs, and won’t help his trade value.

[100proof]

I wouldn’t mind trading Kemba for a good, decent C. After watching this series against the Heat, i’m convinced we can’t win with Kemba. The defensive liability he brings is just too much. The fact that he can’t playmake because he’s used to play iso for several years, doesn’t help his cause. I don’t **** understand what’s Danny’s facination with diminutive pg’s.

He was a diminutive PG.

But I agree, I think Kemba needs to be shopped. He was acquired for asset retention and IMO for no other reason than that.

Yup he needs to go. Just imagine if we face the lakers or nuggets. Who the hell would Kemba guard. I actually feel bad for Kemba. I know he tries hard, but he is just limited in that aspect. He was just exposed this playoffs, and won’t help his trade value.

I think his trade value will be fine, especially if he goes to a team with a good front court to cover for him. We do not have that.

If we had Gobert, or Turner even, I think Kemba would be fine here. We just don't have the personnel and not sure how we could get it either.

[100proof]

Ok here might be a crazy Idea....crazy brilliant!

GSW in: Hayward and TImelord
GSW Out: Wiggins, #2, Right to swap picks with the minny pick next season.

Detroit in: Wiggins, Poirier, #14, #26
out: Griffin and #7

Boston out: Hayward, Poirier and #14 and #26
in: #2, #7 and Griffin (also rights to swap Boston pick with the minny pick next season)

GSW reasoning has been discussed many times, why for Detroit is they move a 75.7 mill 2 year contract on an old oft injured player for a much younger 3 year 94.6 million dollar player who is healthy and gives you more stats. Casey should love a guy like Wiggins and he and Wood should make a solid pairing there. They trade down but end up with 2 picks in the draft.,

Celtics reasoning is they add 2 top 10 picks from 14 and 26, but downgrade on the oft injured but highly producing and expiring Hayward to the oft injured less producing Griffin. Griffin is trade bait for a disgruntled star.

Kemba/Hayes/Edwards
Smart/Romeo/vet mle
Brown/Ramsey/green?
Tatum/Griffin/GrantW
Wiseman/Theis/Kanter

#2 - Wiseman
#7 - Hayes
#30 - Joe, Ramsey, Bane

[100proof]

1 more.

Philly in: Kemba, Hield, Bjelica, #2
out: Embiid, Harris

Philly adds much shooting and drafts at #2. Shed some long term commitments to salary.
Kemba
Hield
Richardson
Simmons
Bjelica/Horford

GSW in: Hayward, Timelord
out: Wiggins, #2



Sacramento in: Harris, Wiggins, #26 and #30
out: Barnes, Hield
Sacramento take on more long term salary, but improves overall talent and fit and adds a couple of late firsts.

Fox
Wiggins
Harris
Bagley3
Holmes

Boston in: Embiid, Barnes
out: Hayward, Kemba, #26, #30

Boston cashes upgrades center spot and adds a good fit at PF. Goes all all in defensively.

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Barnes
Embiid

[batabatuta]

Find a way to get rid of Gordon, Kemba, Langford, Semi, Porier, Wanamaker,Kanter, Carson, Green and Waters.

Grant, Theis, Timelord, Tacko and Smart on the 2nd unit.

[bucknersrevenge]

Find a way to get rid of Gordon, Kemba, Langford, Semi, Porier, Wanamaker,Kanter, Carson, Green and Waters.

Grant, Theis, Timelord, Tacko and Smart on the 2nd unit.

[hugepatsfan]

Find a way to get rid of Gordon, Kemba, Langford, Semi, Porier, Wanamaker,Kanter, Carson, Green and Waters.

Grant, Theis, Timelord, Tacko and Smart on the 2nd unit.

3 2nd unit centers would be an interesting strategy lmfao

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics don’t need to subtract players they need to find a way to supplement their core with a quality bench that includes a big point guard, shooting and a bouncy big man who defends pick and roll and rebounds.

Walker, Smart, Brown, Tatum and Hayward should all be back next year. No reason to move any of the team’s 5 best players

[Dannyboy36]

Hi guys. I’m sure it’s been discussed but is it likely or unlikely we use the mid level coming up this year? If we can do you guys have any reasonable targets you’d hope for?
Thanks

[100proof]

Celtics don’t need to subtract players they need to find a way to supplement their core with a quality bench that includes a big point guard, shooting and a bouncy big man who defends pick and roll and rebounds.

Walker, Smart, Brown, Tatum and Hayward should all be back next year. No reason to move any of the team’s 5 best players

Can add Theis, Timelord and Grant to the list as well.

That is your top 8 right there.

Need 2 or 3 more reliable players on the wing/pg spot.
Would really like a 1 year center upgrade as well, as I am not convinced Timelord is ready for 25-30 minutes a night.