2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Disinformation]

Is Vassell worth moving up for? Of all the guys I've seen suggested in a move up, he's the one that interests me the most. But I don't follow college ball enough to really know, you know?

[playa-hater]

I feel lousy about them, but also certain that we’re drafting Anthony if he’s there.

If anyone is trying to figure out who Danny is drafting at #14 all you have to do is look at mock drafts, find an athletic combo guard that defends but cannot shoot that’s slated to go late first round, and that’s usually the guy Danny drafts. Lmao

Bingo. I've seen enough of Danny drafting to know we are taking an undersized guard who can't shoot or an undersized big. There are no other options.

And he loves guys who were ranked highly as high school players that have fallen in the draft after a somewhat disappointing college season.

stop depressing me!

[playa-hater]

Is Vassell worth moving up for? Of all the guys I've seen suggested in a move up, he's the one that interests me the most. But I don't follow college ball enough to really know, you know?

It wouldn't kill me, but I would rather not. One of Nesmith, S Bey, Bane should be available at 14 if pure shooting is top priority. Or get the more talented P Williams or Precious . Especially after his latest funky shooting video about Vassell that surfaced.

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Is Vassell worth moving up for? Of all the guys I've seen suggested in a move up, he's the one that interests me the most. But I don't follow college ball enough to really know, you know?

He didn’t star at the college level but he can do everything and looks kind of like a young Kobe. Not someone I’d personally want to trade up for, given our roster. But Okongwu? Yes yes yes! Also is Hayes slipping a bit?

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If anyone is trying to figure out who Danny is drafting at #14 all you have to do is look at mock drafts, find an athletic combo guard that defends but cannot shoot that’s slated to go late first round, and that’s usually the guy Danny drafts. Lmao

Bingo. I've seen enough of Danny drafting to know we are taking an undersized guard who can't shoot or an undersized big. There are no other options.

And he loves guys who were ranked highly as high school players that have fallen in the draft after a somewhat disappointing college season.

stop depressing me!

I’m sorry to do this to you my friend but you know the extent of Danny’s draft research has been watching this video a dozen times:

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[playa-hater]

Bingo. I've seen enough of Danny drafting to know we are taking an undersized guard who can't shoot or an undersized big. There are no other options.

And he loves guys who were ranked highly as high school players that have fallen in the draft after a somewhat disappointing college season.

stop depressing me!

I’m sorry to do this to you my friend but you know the extent of Danny’s draft research has been watching this video a dozen times:

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so I tell you I am on the ledge and you try to push me off

[djFan71]

stop depressing me!

I’m sorry to do this to you my friend but you know the extent of Danny’s draft research has been watching this video a dozen times:

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so I tell you I am on the ledge and you try to push me off

That kid looks great! We should probably try to trade up for him.

[playa-hater]

I’m sorry to do this to you my friend but you know the extent of Danny’s draft research has been watching this video a dozen times:

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so I tell you I am on the ledge and you try to push me off

That kid looks great! We should probably try to trade up for him.

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I’m sorry to do this to you my friend but you know the extent of Danny’s draft research has been watching this video a dozen times:

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so I tell you I am on the ledge and you try to push me off

That kid looks great! We should probably try to trade up for him.

Peep this guy tho! Off the chaaaaain

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[Homerclease]

I think the Knicks are the most suitable trade partner here. Now they are linked to RJ Hampton who they could very easily have at 14. 14 + 26 or 30 and move up for Vassell or Haliburton and then add a Desmond Bane later in the draft. You may even be able to trade up into the top of the second if a guy like Azibuke slips for whatever reason too

[giambijuice]

i wouldn't mind a draft of j. smith@ 14
k.lewis @ 26
u.azibuike @ 30
s.merrill @ 47

[celticfan42487]

Would Atlanta do #6 for DeRozan?

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I would think for Derozan and #11 for #6

idk a team rebuilding trading their top 10 pick even in a weak draft for DeRozen is the classic horrible owner demanding playoff money and dooming his franchise to be at best a treadmill team as they have their young star demand to be traded 2 years later.

So I could see ATL doing it.

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[LarryBirdsFingr]

So, the Celtics met virtually with Nate Hinton. He's very Smart-like with his energy and hustle plays. He's pretty interesting. I had never heard of him before today.

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I'm only now seeing this video. You can never have too many Marcus Smarts on your team. I want his kid to be a Celtic now.

I hope they make the pick. Info is there for them.

[Squigglepuffin]

This is everything I've taken away from the draft since no one knows the combine measurements yet (correct me if I'm wrong):

The steals of the draft imo are going to be Tyler Bey, Jalen Harris, and Nate Hinton. I believe Zeke Nnaji could also end up being a steal too. I think either the Heat, Thunder, Nets, or Spurs are most likely to draft one of them.

Tyler Bey will end up being a better NBA player than Obi Toppin. Hinton could end up being the best rebounding guard in the NBA. Jalen Harris is a microwave scorer ala Isaiah Thomas and Jamal Crawford.

Zeke Nnaji could end up a better shooting though smaller Aron Baynes. He's not the most athletic but he's got a fair amount of potential if his shot gets real good (which I think it will). He could also end up being the best big from this draft if developed properly.

LaMelo Ball to me does everything his brother Lonzo did coming into the NBA. Imo the differences between them aren't too significant regardless of what everyone else thinks.

Deni will bust. Toppin is not worth a lottery pick bc his defense won't get much better than it is now. He will just get picked on mercilessly in a playoff series via the pick and roll. He's overrated.

Anthony Edwards is either Dion Waiters or Derozan depending on his work ethic. Halliburton could end up being a less athletic, easier to push around, but better passing Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. If he goes to the right team/right system he could end up being a very good player. His weight and potential to put on weight is a concern.

Wiseman is built like Drummond but plays like Marvin Bagley thus far so it could go either way with him. Okoro's defense is overrated and if he doesn't learn how to shoot could end up being a role player. Okongwu is interesting and if he learns how to shoot could be an all-star.

Patrick Williams could end up being a poor man's Anunoby, or a peak of his career Jeff Green (not talking about his random 40 point games). Other than his vertical pop I think his athleticism is overstated and exaggerated. He is young though.

Nesmith is Doug McDermott with a real NBA body, so because of the latter he could be worth taking a chance on. Vassell has very little bust potential.

I've soured on Hayes.

Bane, Ramsey (concerned about both their wingspans though), Woodard (less sold on him but he's worth a look), S. Bey, Tillman, Dotson, and Reed could have solid NBA careers.

Saddiq won't bust. I have no faith in Cole Anthony. He has bust written all over him and personally wouldn't draft him. I'd draft Mannion before drafting Anthony.

Jalen Smith and Poku are risky bc I think they could have medical issues down the road.

All in all I'd rather have two picks in the teens and just draft either Hinton, Tyler Bey, or Nnaji, which is playing it safe imo. Jalen Harris in the second round. It's a really weak draft.

[threrf23]

Anthony Edwards is either Dion Waiters or Derozan depending on his work ethic.

I say 'Reke Evans.

Okongwu is interesting and if he learns how to shoot could be an all-star.

Bam is proof that he can be an all-star even if he never learns to shoot.

Okoro's defense is overrated and if he doesn't learn how to shoot could end up being a role player.

I would wager that similar things were said about Vince Carter way back when. That's who came to mind when I watched highlights; the hype about his defense may be based on potential, but he looks pretty polished as a passer and finisher.

Patrick Williams could end up being a poor man's Anunoby, or a peak of his career Jeff Green (not talking about his random 40 point games). Other than his vertical pop I think his athleticism is overstated and exaggerated. He is young though.

I was thinking Marvin Williams.

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[Shak_Celts]

I'm sleepy and can't fall asleep (nerves for election results), I was watching more videos and as I was watching him again Bey reminds me of Buddy Hield. Could be the sleep deprivation but I see it.

[ddb]

My prediction is if Boston stays at #14 they will draft C. Anthony, RJ Hampton, or Tyrell Terry. Three high upside guards with high character. Also, there will be solid bigs and wings still available at #26/#30. If he keeps all 3 picks I'd expect at least 1 draft & stash, or consolidate to move up or out of the late 1st round.