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Post#121 » by 165bows » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:11 am

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soxfan2003 wrote:If Houston is interested which is a big if since the Rockets could go in any different direction, I think a Rondo to Houston trade makes the most sense. Houston is going to possibly have to overpay to make something happen within the next 40 hours or they are in bad shape. They have already given up Asik/Lin and traded away a pick to gain cap room.

Unless the Rockets had an actual promise to Parsons as a favor of his agent bringing in Howard, letting him out of his contract was foolish.


Why bad shape? They are in bad shape in signing an All Star in FA but they can simply resign Parsons with his Bird Rights, they don't have to move anyone to simply match the offer.

They still have the NO pick, Capela, Motiejuanas and some smaller bits to deal off if they want. That's not a great haul but they could get a decent starter for that if they want.

I always thought they'd go after Chalmers as back court depth, wouldn't surprise me if they made him an offer.


I should have explained myself further... They are in bad shape for a team that went into this off-season with a very realistic goal of becoming a championship team next season. At first I think they wanted Lebron/Bosh/Carmelo and now their fan base is talking about Carlos Boozer....

The clock is ticking on Dwight Howard. He is going to be 29 next December. Howard is not going to be a player that ages as well as a more skilled center/big such as Bosh since Howard is mostly about athleticism and not extremely tall. (This is more relatively speaking since Howard in his prime was a better player than Bosh) Howard's strength will still be there for a long time but his jumping/explosiveness won't be. So realistically the Rockets may just have 3 more seasons in which Howard can play a huge role and if this upcoming season they get worse that is not good at all.

Parson's basically has close to zero value in my estimation signed at 15 million a year. He is not a truly elite shooter like Klay T. I would be upset at Ainge if he traded for a Parson's making 15 million a year. Even Rocket fans admit its a very questionable value that only made sense if they signed a star first.

The Rockets did get a nice asset for Asik but they are giving up an asset to get rid of Lin.

At the end of the day losing Asik and Lin really hurts the depth of their team and they needed a star or at least a couple of very high level role players to make that up and get better.


Yeah they looked poised to have a third straight home run offseason and now this offseason's turning pretty pedestrian pretty quickly. The good fortune of these last couple years turned around on them this year. And I know what you are saying with Parsons, though I think it's a bit on the harsh side. He might not be the best deal dollar for dollar but he still would provide production that they need to compete. They will have a $70M payroll and getting production from about all of it, him included. But I think it's fair to assume what you are saying is the extra value a team needs to come out on top isn't coming from his deal, if that makes sense.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#122 » by Green89 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:15 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:With Charlotte moving to sign SF Marvin Williams and Houston signing Ariza, that leaves Washington without a starting 3. When will we see Jeff Green's article on random sports rag saying he's going home too?


They just got PP.
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Post#123 » by SirTankalot » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:13 pm

Trade Wallace and Olynyk for Josh Smith
Trade Bass, Bogans, Anthony and future #1 for Roy Hibbert

Start Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, and Hibbert with Smart, Sullinger, Thornton, and Zeller off the bench.
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Post#124 » by darrendaye » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:17 pm

Probably driven by feeling bad for KG, I pose the following....

Does BRK have enough motivation to slash salary to consider?
Bogans, Babb, Johnson, Anthony for KG

Perhaps switch Bass with Anthony depending upon what is more beneficial to all parties. I wouldn't give up a pick in the deal, so that's the biggest factor for the Nets. But lands KG in a good spot for part of the year and he can call the shot whether he wants to close out his career with Rondo and kids or chasing the ring with LA or WASH on a buyout.

For the Celts, Bass is the more attractive option because he deserves the PT he gets and it's squeezed out on this roster provided health of the expected rotation candidates. Anthony pretty much understands that he's an emergency center at this point. Brooklyn might want the on-court contribution Bass provides, but if the pull is strong for cap relief, he costs about $2MM more.
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Post#125 » by gocelts » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:12 pm

Can we finally dump Bass to the Rockets now?
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Post#126 » by theman » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:51 pm

gocelts wrote:Can we finally dump Bass to the Rockets now?


No. The are getting Trevar Ariza


Chicago needs to clear capspace for Gasol.

How about Wallace and Bogans (cutable) for Boozer and the rights to Mirotic?
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Post#127 » by crosko42 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:36 pm

theman wrote:
gocelts wrote:Can we finally dump Bass to the Rockets now?


No. The are getting Trevar Ariza


Chicago needs to clear capspace for Gasol.

How about Wallace and Bogans (cutable) for Boozer and the rights to Mirotic?


No chance.

They'd amnesty boozer sooner than give up mirotic and take on GWallace.
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Post#128 » by brackdan70 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:51 pm

Bass and a sign and traded Hump for Biyombo?
they need PF and depth and have space to absorb 10m in Salary
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Post#129 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:48 pm

theman wrote:
gocelts wrote:Can we finally dump Bass to the Rockets now?


No. The are getting Trevar Ariza


Chicago needs to clear capspace for Gasol.

How about Wallace and Bogans (cutable) for Boozer and the rights to Mirotic?


Green & Bogans for Booz and a pick or two. Bulls need a 3 and cut some money...
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Post#130 » by 15th overall » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:54 pm

Bulls are also one of the cheaper organizations in the league (or at least among the big markets), can never look at things from strictly a basketball angle with them when money's involved. I'm not sold they'll amnesty Boozer.
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Post#131 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:39 pm

15th overall wrote:Bulls are also one of the cheaper organizations in the league (or at least among the big markets), can never look at things from strictly a basketball angle with them when money's involved. I'm not sold they'll amnesty Boozer.


Yep, I suspect they're looking to deal Boozer.
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Post#132 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:08 pm

http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/7/13/58 ... -nba-trade

Some horrific Rondo trades courtesy of Celticsblog


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Post#133 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 pm

andy582 wrote:http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/7/13/5865733/destinations-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-denver-oklahoma-houston-sacramento-rumor-lebron-nba-trade

Some horrific Rondo trades courtesy of Celticsblog


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I don't understand why he rules out Indiana. Just have to be creative and find a 3rd team...
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Post#134 » by greenroom31 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:25 pm

andy582 wrote:http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/7/13/5865733/destinations-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-denver-oklahoma-houston-sacramento-rumor-lebron-nba-trade

Some horrific Rondo trades courtesy of Celticsblog


You nailed it. Those are among the worst trades I've ever seen -- the type where both teams say "NO!".
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Post#135 » by 15th overall » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:30 pm

Probably worth repeating; celticsblog sucks.
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Post#136 » by ferk » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:53 am

how about a trade sending bass/bogans/humps to mem ?



we don;t have much but can use a 3m , 1m tpe or Calathes who can be waived to help another team shed salary with picks going to BOS? maybe an Ed DAvis s&t if bos has any interest in him and can't just sign him themselves ?

maybe mem can get in on a love deal and help bos out which we seem to do, took on melo for nothing i think ? bayless deal helping boston cut salary . Chris Wallace is still here so i'd bet on some type of bos/mem deal again .
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Post#137 » by Ed Pinkney » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:58 am

As Ainge now has forty first round picks, would you give up one to get out of Wallace's contact?

Would you trade Bass and Wallace plus a heavily protected pick for Amare?
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Post#138 » by Turgon » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:45 pm

Getting rid of Wallace isn't worth sending a pick. At least not right now, as we don't get more flexibility this year. Maybe next year it will be worth exploring.

He might end up being useful in some kind of trade.
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Post#139 » by rob4748 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:40 pm

NO needs a small forward and I feel like the C's could make some type of deal with Jeff Green for Ryan Anderson and maybe Austin Rivers. Obviously the C's would have to add another piece but I haven't been able to figure that out. What do you guys think?
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Post#140 » by Higgs Boston » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:48 pm

rob4748 wrote:NO needs a small forward and I feel like the C's could make some type of deal with Jeff Green for Ryan Anderson and maybe Austin Rivers. Obviously the C's would have to add another piece but I haven't been able to figure that out. What do you guys think?


Green x anderson + rivers, no more, and obviously anderson in third team. Celtics not give more than Green.

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