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Post#121 » by ddb » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:24 pm

grindtime22 wrote:If Noel was locked into a reasonable long term deal, giving up Brown would be an option. Only having 1 year left on his deal plummets his value. Yes, the 76ers or whoever trades for him can match any deal. But, you are talking about trading for the right to give him a 100 million dollar deal. :-?

Value is about the contract situation (money/years) as much as the talent.


first of all, no. Just no. The Celtics aren't trading Jaylen Brown in any deal for a Philly big. Not happening. Boston is all-in on Jaylen Brown at this point. Would they have traded him for Russell Westbrook with an extension? Yes. But not for Nerlens Noel. Even if Noel was signed into a long-term deal.

Here's why a deal hasn't occurred yet between Philly and Boston. Philly wants a Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart or maybe even an Avery Bradley in a deal. Ainge is offering packages centered around Rozier/Young/Mickey. He just isn't going to give up more. And I can tell you with certainty that Ainge will enter into the season with the roster as is. He wants to make a deal and get better, but he isnt going to budge.
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Post#122 » by Edug27 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:26 pm

ddb wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:If Noel was locked into a reasonable long term deal, giving up Brown would be an option. Only having 1 year left on his deal plummets his value. Yes, the 76ers or whoever trades for him can match any deal. But, you are talking about trading for the right to give him a 100 million dollar deal. :-?

Value is about the contract situation (money/years) as much as the talent.


first of all, no. Just no. The Celtics aren't trading Jaylen Brown in any deal for a Philly big. Not happening. Boston is all-in on Jaylen Brown at this point. Would they have traded him for Russell Westbrook with an extension? Yes. But not for Nerlens Noel. Even if Noel was signed into a long-term deal.

Here's why a deal hasn't occurred yet between Philly and Boston. Philly wants a Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart or maybe even an Avery Bradley in a deal. Ainge is offering packages centered around Rozier/Young/Mickey. He just isn't going to give up more. And I can tell you with certainty that Ainge will enter into the season with the roster as is. He wants to make a deal and get better, but he isnt going to budge.


Yep. And sooner or later the price on Noel will come down. No reason to rush it.
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Post#123 » by jbent87 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:29 pm

OFWGKTA wrote:
BallinBen wrote:An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.


Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?
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Post#124 » by OFWGKTA » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:32 pm

jbent87 wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
BallinBen wrote:An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.


Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?



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Re: New Rumors and News Thread 

Post#125 » by 165bows » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:44 pm

Edug27 wrote:
ddb wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:If Noel was locked into a reasonable long term deal, giving up Brown would be an option. Only having 1 year left on his deal plummets his value. Yes, the 76ers or whoever trades for him can match any deal. But, you are talking about trading for the right to give him a 100 million dollar deal. :-?

Value is about the contract situation (money/years) as much as the talent.


first of all, no. Just no. The Celtics aren't trading Jaylen Brown in any deal for a Philly big. Not happening. Boston is all-in on Jaylen Brown at this point. Would they have traded him for Russell Westbrook with an extension? Yes. But not for Nerlens Noel. Even if Noel was signed into a long-term deal.

Here's why a deal hasn't occurred yet between Philly and Boston. Philly wants a Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart or maybe even an Avery Bradley in a deal. Ainge is offering packages centered around Rozier/Young/Mickey. He just isn't going to give up more. And I can tell you with certainty that Ainge will enter into the season with the roster as is. He wants to make a deal and get better, but he isnt going to budge.


Yep. And sooner or later the price on Noel will come down. No reason to rush it.

Agreed.

I'm so bad I keep thinking how can they do a deal without even Rozier. I guess I'd just like to see one of the new crop of non top-10 pick guys turn into something.

How's James Young, Demtrius Jackson and the Clippers pick? Ha ha man I am so bad.
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Re: New Rumors and News Thread 

Post#126 » by Edug27 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:47 pm

165bows wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
ddb wrote:
first of all, no. Just no. The Celtics aren't trading Jaylen Brown in any deal for a Philly big. Not happening. Boston is all-in on Jaylen Brown at this point. Would they have traded him for Russell Westbrook with an extension? Yes. But not for Nerlens Noel. Even if Noel was signed into a long-term deal.

Here's why a deal hasn't occurred yet between Philly and Boston. Philly wants a Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart or maybe even an Avery Bradley in a deal. Ainge is offering packages centered around Rozier/Young/Mickey. He just isn't going to give up more. And I can tell you with certainty that Ainge will enter into the season with the roster as is. He wants to make a deal and get better, but he isnt going to budge.


Yep. And sooner or later the price on Noel will come down. No reason to rush it.

Agreed.

I'm so bad I keep thinking how can they do a deal without even Rozier. I guess I'd just like to see one of the new crop of non top-10 pick guys turn into something.

How's James Young, Demtrius Jackson and the Clippers pick? Ha ha man I am so bad.


Haha. I'm sure Danny has already offered that exact package.
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Post#127 » by BallinBen » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:56 pm

jbent87 wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
BallinBen wrote:An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.


Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?


Thank you for being competent. O like going on other teams boards because if you are only talking to people from your own team things like this start to happen. Where Terry Rozier can somehow get Nerlens Noel, Marcus Smart is just as good as Victor Oladipo. Fans need to talk to fans of other teams to see how their players are valued around the league. I've come away knowing you hate Okafor, and love Noel but are too stingy to give up anything of worth. You should come away from this knowing that your bench players don't have star potential, and you need to visit other boards to get an opinion other than a biased one.
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Re: New Rumors and News Thread 

Post#128 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:59 pm

ITT we beat up a Sixers fan for no real reason.

Poor dude was just trying to flex a little. I really doubt he thinks they win 30 games.
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Re: New Rumors and News Thread 

Post#129 » by jbent87 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:02 pm

BallinBen wrote:
jbent87 wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?


Thank you for being competent. O like going on other teams boards because if you are only talking to people from your own team things like this start to happen. Where Terry Rozier can somehow get Nerlens Noel, Marcus Smart is just as good as Victor Oladipo. Fans need to talk to fans of other teams to see how their players are valued around the league. I've come away knowing you hate Okafor, and love Noel but are too stingy to give up anything of worth. You should come away from this knowing that your bench players don't have star potential, and you need to visit other boards to get an opinion other than a biased one.


that's all well and good too, but there's a time and place for all of that discussion, most times it's on The General Board. Coming in here guns blazing is only going to provoke responses like I quoted.

Also, just take it easy for another couple of months here. All of the bashing regarding our team is about to come to a screeching halt when people see Ben Simmons, Dario Saric and Joel Embiid on the court with their own eyes. Endure it for a little longer, but no need to provoke it. It's just about over with anyway.
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Post#130 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:13 pm

DK-All Day wrote:Sixers won't win a single game against Boston this year. Quote me. Sig me. Take it to the bank.

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Post#131 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:14 pm

jbent87 wrote:
BallinBen wrote:
jbent87 wrote:
So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?


Thank you for being competent. O like going on other teams boards because if you are only talking to people from your own team things like this start to happen. Where Terry Rozier can somehow get Nerlens Noel, Marcus Smart is just as good as Victor Oladipo. Fans need to talk to fans of other teams to see how their players are valued around the league. I've come away knowing you hate Okafor, and love Noel but are too stingy to give up anything of worth. You should come away from this knowing that your bench players don't have star potential, and you need to visit other boards to get an opinion other than a biased one.


that's all well and good too, but there's a time and place for all of that discussion, most times it's on The General Board. Coming in here guns blazing is only going to provoke responses like I quoted.

Also, just take it easy for another couple of months here. All of the bashing regarding our team is about to come to a screeching halt when people see Ben Simmons, Dario Saric and Joel Embiid on the court with their own eyes. Endure it for a little longer, but no need to provoke it. It's just about over with anyway.


The bashing is only going to get worse unfortunately. BC at the helmet will do that. Sixers franchise is like some God damn Shakespeare comedy. **** is upsetting.

I don't get why everyone enjoys it so much though. Your fanbase has battered fan syndrome, the team has no real rivalries anymore. I guess people have PTSD from soft tanking other something.
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Post#132 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:15 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
DK-All Day wrote:Sixers won't win a single game against Boston this year. Quote me. Sig me. Take it to the bank.

horford will chew up their bigs and spit them out.


I think they beat us once this year. I'll sig bet whoever.
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Re: New Rumors and News Thread 

Post#133 » by Celtic Esquire » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:23 pm

jbent87 wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
BallinBen wrote:An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.


Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?


You do realize that OFWGKTA's post was made in a BOSTON CELTICS forum whereas the other dude came to a rival board to talk trash?

You understand the difference don't you?
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Post#134 » by OFWGKTA » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:47 pm

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Post#135 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:52 pm

jbent87 wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:
BallinBen wrote:An athletic slasher that can play defense, can't shoot, and plays out of control seems to match Jerami Grant. You cannot assume that just because he was a high draft pick that he will be a star. He's very raw with a low basketball IQ, I watched some Cal games and he could be a Tyreke Evans, but he needs to earn that. He was very inefficient and will have to prove he was worth selecting over Dunn.


Bens Simmons will bust

Okafor isn't even worth where he was picked in the draft a year later

Embiid will break

Saric is a bitch

Robert Covington is a bitch ass butler

Your guards are trash

Your GM is Colangelo

Your franchise's greatest achievement in about 30 years is winning 1 game in the finals

Team's see Philly on the schedule and plan to rest guys


76ers total wins the past 3 seasons=47

Celtics total wins the past 1 seasons=48


So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?


That's correct.
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Post#136 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:56 pm

rumor: jaylen brown will dunk the basketball
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Post#137 » by ddb » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:59 pm

165bows wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
ddb wrote:
first of all, no. Just no. The Celtics aren't trading Jaylen Brown in any deal for a Philly big. Not happening. Boston is all-in on Jaylen Brown at this point. Would they have traded him for Russell Westbrook with an extension? Yes. But not for Nerlens Noel. Even if Noel was signed into a long-term deal.

Here's why a deal hasn't occurred yet between Philly and Boston. Philly wants a Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart or maybe even an Avery Bradley in a deal. Ainge is offering packages centered around Rozier/Young/Mickey. He just isn't going to give up more. And I can tell you with certainty that Ainge will enter into the season with the roster as is. He wants to make a deal and get better, but he isnt going to budge.


Yep. And sooner or later the price on Noel will come down. No reason to rush it.

Agreed.

I'm so bad I keep thinking how can they do a deal without even Rozier. I guess I'd just like to see one of the new crop of non top-10 pick guys turn into something.

How's James Young, Demtrius Jackson and the Clippers pick? Ha ha man I am so bad.


I'm not trading them Smart or Bradley simply because I don't want to have to face those guys. dealing Rozier would sting a bit because I think he's a REAL player moving forward, but so isn't Noel. So I'm fine with a Rozier and scaps for Noel type deal.

trying to think of who else could deal with Philly right now.
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Post#138 » by Shamrock » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:00 pm

jbent87 wrote:So BB is a troll bc he's not on his respective teams boards but this post is fine?

Ummm yes? Don't expect to come on our board and provoke a bunch of posters and say dumb **** and expect not to be thrashed.
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Post#139 » by Shamrock » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:01 pm

ddb wrote:I'm not trading them Smart or Bradley simply because I don't want to have to face those guys. dealing Rozier would sting a bit because I think he's a REAL player moving forward, but so isn't Noel. So I'm fine with a Rozier and scaps for Noel type deal.

trying to think of who else could deal with Philly right now.

I'd do that deal as well. Optimally, Philly will enter next off-season with Simmons/Embiid/Okafor/Noel still on the roster. Then we could throw a offer at Noel to see if we could pry him away without trading away assets.
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Post#140 » by Disinformation » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:27 pm

So this thread is off to a rousing start. I think I'd rather go back to talking about Mel Brooks movies and food.
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