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Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2

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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#121 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:00 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stop arguing that we dont have to give up Tatum— we absolutely do.


For a dude with one year left on his term? Irving didn’t require Brown OR Tatum. And he had 2 years left. And AD is not light years better than Irving. Is he a but better? Maybe. Sure.

Brown is more than good enough. If thats not good enough for NO, so be it. It’s not like NO isn’t in a position of weakness. Also, how many trades have started with massive proposals and when the deal comes out people are saying “that is all it took?”

Still, no one looks at the past deals to have solid ideas of current ones.


AD is light years better than Kyrie and would be the third most talented player to ever wear a Celtics jersey. Its no where near the same thing.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#122 » by AlCelticFan » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:01 pm

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Jakeopp wrote:lol


Why is this funny? That’s a legitimate possibility.

How often do teams go from worst in the league to gaining three superstars in one off-season?

Celtics did it, right? :) Maybe the last time it happened?
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

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Jakeopp wrote:lol


Why is this funny? That’s a legitimate possibility.

How often do teams go from worst in the league to gaining three superstars in one off-season?


The past is irrelevant.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#124 » by thelarrybirdx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:03 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stop arguing that we dont have to give up Tatum— we absolutely do.


For a dude with one year left on his term? Irving didn’t require Brown OR Tatum. And he had 2 years left. And AD is not light years better than Irving. Is he a but better? Maybe. Sure.

Brown is more than good enough. If thats not good enough for NO, so be it. It’s not like NO isn’t in a position of weakness. Also, how many trades have started with massive proposals and when the deal comes out people are saying “that is all it took?”

Still, no one looks at the past deals to have solid ideas of current ones.


At the time of the trade, Kyrie was seen as a borderline top-20 player at best. Davis is a consensus top-5 player.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#125 » by Banks2Pierce » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:04 pm

Jakeopp wrote:How often do teams go from worst in the league to gaining three superstars in one off-season?


Heat went from starting Carlos Arroyo in the playoffs against us to unveiling Lebron within months. It's obviously doable, though the Knicks are always a lock to screw it up.
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Post#126 » by 31to6 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:04 pm

This has already been the issue for most of this season. But yeah, guys have some pride and want to advance their careers.

That said I'm against more AD threads (until the old one gets to 100).
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#127 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:06 pm

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ViperGTS wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stop arguing that we dont have to give up Tatum— we absolutely do.


For a dude with one year left on his term? Irving didn’t require Brown OR Tatum. And he had 2 years left. And AD is not light years better than Irving. Is he a but better? Maybe. Sure.

Brown is more than good enough. If thats not good enough for NO, so be it. It’s not like NO isn’t in a position of weakness. Also, how many trades have started with massive proposals and when the deal comes out people are saying “that is all it took?”

Still, no one looks at the past deals to have solid ideas of current ones.


At the time of the trade, Kyrie was seen as a borderline top-20 player at best. Davis is a consensus top-5 player.


Davis has top-15 ever potential. He’s a two way big man that can handle, shoot, pass and switch 1-5.

Again, if we had AD we would NEVER trade him for Tatum and would instead dare him to leave as a FA. Luckily for us, we can handle losing a player in FA for nothing as a market while NO cannot.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#128 » by CelticsLV » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:07 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stop arguing that we dont have to give up Tatum— we absolutely do.


For a dude with one year left on his term? Irving didn’t require Brown OR Tatum. And he had 2 years left. And AD is not light years better than Irving. Is he a but better? Maybe. Sure.

Brown is more than good enough. If thats not good enough for NO, so be it. It’s not like NO isn’t in a position of weakness. Also, how many trades have started with massive proposals and when the deal comes out people are saying “that is all it took?”

Still, no one looks at the past deals to have solid ideas of current ones.




Lay off the weed already.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#129 » by BillTheGOAT » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:07 pm

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BillTheGOAT wrote:Knicks are giving me nightmares.

If they get AD, and sign KD. You just know Kyrie is jumping ship, they would rule the East and atlantic division for the next 5 years.

there's this thing called the salary cap. If they get AD, and sign KD, they won't have the money to sign Kyrie. Simple as that. You have to look at more than just those salary, they bought out Noah as well and I don't recall them stretching him. His entire salary counts in 2019 I think.

Noah counts for 6.4 million next year, its doable if they move Hardaway jr and Courtney Lee.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#130 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:09 pm

Reminder: Brad has a very high opinion of Smart. It's not obvious he'd lobby strongly to keep Hayward over him. https://devzone.positivecoach.org/resource/video/brad-stevens-recruiting-players-who-are-energy-raisers
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#131 » by Jakeopp » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:12 pm

Does the #2 or #3 pick packaged with KP and whatever else garbage the Knicks have outbid what we can offer?
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#132 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:15 pm

Jakeopp wrote:Does the #2 or #3 pick packaged with KP and whatever else garbage the Knicks have outbid what we can offer?


That depends on their evaluations—Personally, I have Tatum as the best asset of the 3.

However; KP can easily kill any deal to NO by refusing to cooperate on a S&T, something I’d expect him to do.
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Post#133 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:17 pm

We dont need another thread for this— merging with the existing AD thread
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#134 » by Floody100 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:17 pm

I personally don’t think just Zion alone would triumph over our trades assets. I get his potential is huge but he hasn’t been played in the NBA yet. I’m definitely not comparing them both but Anthony Bennett went number 1 in the draft & look how that turned out. Tatum & Brown have proven their worth just from what they did last year without Kyrie.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#135 » by ddb » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:18 pm

So I was just thinking....Kyrie being out again, right around the trade deadline. This is weird. Like I feel like Kyrie and Danny have a mutual understanding that the first objective is to pair the two in Boston....but then there's AD's reps clearly pushing him to LA to pair with LeBron so LeBron can go out a winner and go down as the GOAT. so I feel like Boston 100% has positioned themselves to acquire AD and re-sign Kyrie this summer forming a super team in Boston. but it sure seems to me that Danny is also preparing for the "unlikely" event that NOLA does an AD deal with LA NOW. What I mean by that is it sure seems that if LA or NY lands Davis before the deadline, that Ainge has a Kyrie deal ready to go....because if Danny has ANY inkling that Kyrie may go against his word and leave Boston this Sumer to team up with anyone else, Danny is going to trade him now.
I wonder if Danny has Kyrie sitting out just in case AD gets dealt before the deadline.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#136 » by fallguy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:18 pm

ViperGTS wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Stop arguing that we dont have to give up Tatum— we absolutely do.


For a dude with one year left on his term? Irving didn’t require Brown OR Tatum. And he had 2 years left. And AD is not light years better than Irving. Is he a but better? Maybe. Sure.

Brown is more than good enough. If thats not good enough for NO, so be it. It’s not like NO isn’t in a position of weakness. Also, how many trades have started with massive proposals and when the deal comes out people are saying “that is all it took?”

Still, no one looks at the past deals to have solid ideas of current ones.


This deal will be different because there will be so many suitors.

Also, Davis is way better than Irving.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#137 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:19 pm

ddb wrote:So I was just thinking....Kyrie being out again, right around the trade deadline. This is weird. Like I feel like Kyrie and Danny have a mutual understanding that the first objective is to pair the two in Boston....but then there's AD's reps clearly pushing him to LA to pair with LeBron so LeBron can go out a winner and go down as the GOAT. so I feel like Boston 100% has positioned themselves to acquire AD and re-sign Kyrie this summer forming a super team in Boston. but it sure seems to me that Danny is also preparing for the "unlikely" event that NOLA does an AD deal with LA NOW. What I mean by that is it sure seems that if LA or NY lands Davis before the deadline, that Ainge has a Kyrie deal ready to go....because if Danny has ANY inkling that Kyrie may go against his word and leave Boston this Sumer to team up with anyone else, Danny is going to trade him now.
I wonder if Danny has Kyrie sitting out just in case AD gets dealt before the deadline.


I said it in the last thread, but if the AD dream dies, I’m expecting Ainge to trade Kyrie.

Would also expect Ainge to make a move for Lonzo, to be honest.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#138 » by thelarrybirdx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:20 pm

ddb wrote:So I was just thinking....Kyrie being out again, right around the trade deadline. This is weird. Like I feel like Kyrie and Danny have a mutual understanding that the first objective is to pair the two in Boston....but then there's AD's reps clearly pushing him to LA to pair with LeBron so LeBron can go out a winner and go down as the GOAT. so I feel like Boston 100% has positioned themselves to acquire AD and re-sign Kyrie this summer forming a super team in Boston. but it sure seems to me that Danny is also preparing for the "unlikely" event that NOLA does an AD deal with LA NOW. What I mean by that is it sure seems that if LA or NY lands Davis before the deadline, that Ainge has a Kyrie deal ready to go....because if Danny has ANY inkling that Kyrie may go against his word and leave Boston this Sumer to team up with anyone else, Danny is going to trade him now.
I wonder if Danny has Kyrie sitting out just in case AD gets dealt before the deadline.


I saw someone bring up that Ainge might be intentionally sitting Kyrie to try and showcase Tatum and Brown in a more featured role. This would show the Pelicans what they could get from waiting. Then again, they have 2.5 seasons of tape on Brown and 1.5 on Tatum to evaluate play.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#139 » by Jakeopp » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:22 pm

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ddb wrote:So I was just thinking....Kyrie being out again, right around the trade deadline. This is weird. Like I feel like Kyrie and Danny have a mutual understanding that the first objective is to pair the two in Boston....but then there's AD's reps clearly pushing him to LA to pair with LeBron so LeBron can go out a winner and go down as the GOAT. so I feel like Boston 100% has positioned themselves to acquire AD and re-sign Kyrie this summer forming a super team in Boston. but it sure seems to me that Danny is also preparing for the "unlikely" event that NOLA does an AD deal with LA NOW. What I mean by that is it sure seems that if LA or NY lands Davis before the deadline, that Ainge has a Kyrie deal ready to go....because if Danny has ANY inkling that Kyrie may go against his word and leave Boston this Sumer to team up with anyone else, Danny is going to trade him now.
I wonder if Danny has Kyrie sitting out just in case AD gets dealt before the deadline.


I said it in the last thread, but if the AD dream dies, I’m expecting Ainge to trade Kyrie.

Would also expect Ainge to make a move for Lonzo, to be honest.


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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2 

Post#140 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:22 pm

ddb wrote:So I was just thinking....Kyrie being out again, right around the trade deadline. This is weird. Like I feel like Kyrie and Danny have a mutual understanding that the first objective is to pair the two in Boston....but then there's AD's reps clearly pushing him to LA to pair with LeBron so LeBron can go out a winner and go down as the GOAT. so I feel like Boston 100% has positioned themselves to acquire AD and re-sign Kyrie this summer forming a super team in Boston. but it sure seems to me that Danny is also preparing for the "unlikely" event that NOLA does an AD deal with LA NOW. What I mean by that is it sure seems that if LA or NY lands Davis before the deadline, that Ainge has a Kyrie deal ready to go....because if Danny has ANY inkling that Kyrie may go against his word and leave Boston this Sumer to team up with anyone else, Danny is going to trade him now.
I wonder if Danny has Kyrie sitting out just in case AD gets dealt before the deadline.

Thought the same thing myself. Wouldn't doubt it.

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