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Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#121 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:31 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im just excited for everything post thursday:

-If AD is on the Pelicans still, I feel extrordinarily confident we get him [86%, to be clear]

-If AD is on the Lakers, Im expecting Ainge to have trades Kyrie and Yabu for DSJ , DAJ and that unprotected Mavs first.

I can honestly get behind either path (though I would clearly prefer the first option)— I just want to know at this point.



Do you think the knicks would do that trade though? Seems lopsided for the celtics


Without the first, absolutely— they have no plans on resigning DAJ and in an ideal world they’re trading DSJ this summer after Kyrie signs anyways. Ainge extracts a first from them in exchange for the certainty of the situation, where NY has Kyrie and max cap space, potentially with Zion on the way as well.
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Post#122 » by akhan786 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:33 pm

Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#123 » by CelticsPride18 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:34 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im just excited for everything post thursday:

-If AD is on the Pelicans still, I feel extrordinarily confident we get him [86%, to be clear]

-If AD is on the Lakers, Im expecting Ainge to have trades Kyrie and Yabu for DSJ , DAJ and that unprotected Mavs first.

I can honestly get behind either path (though I would clearly prefer the first option)— I just want to know at this point.


I honestly believe the tactic Rich Paul is using to get AD to the Lakers is not going to work out all this leaks to hurt the Pelicans leverage must have the Pels FO pissed. I think they would prefer to take a slightly lesser pacakage from another team than taking the LA package.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#124 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:41 pm

akhan786 wrote:Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors


Woj grew up in Connecticut [before moving to NJ, I believe] and is a massive Red Sox fan. Pretty sure I’ve heard him say he likes the Pats as well. I’m willing to guarantee that deep down he dislikes the Lakers, much like Ramona dislikes the Celtics deep down.

Lowe was an open Celtics fan til 2008, saying that the KG-Pierce-Allen title was the last he rooted for as a fan. However, he also admitted watching ECF game 7 with his dad [who is a huge Celtics fan] and being disappointed for him when it didnt work out.

Believe me, we’ve got troops to battle the propaganda war. We will continue to clap back through Thursday.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#125 » by nickgammon » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:42 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:All I need now is for Rich Paul to have someone say something to the effect of “I dont want AD to go to Boston cuz its racist” and I’ll hit Bingo


That’s how I believe AD’s dad feels too. He’s talking about loyalty when his son’s demanding a trade. Doesn’t make sense. If I was Shelbourne, my follow up would’ve been “would you have wanted him to play there before the IT trade?” And, not to put words in his mouth, but I bet it would be something like “No, that team wasn’t talented enough.”

If the reports of KCP not being included in the trade package, it’s so obvious that he’s just trying to stack all of his players on the same team. That is 100% a conflict of interest and the NBA should launch an investigation. They won’t launch one until LeBron is tired and the headlines settle down and then unveil the corruption 10 years after the fact, because all of this stuff is good for ratings and they’re scared to go after LeBron or anyone in his circle.



On the note of racism, it happens everywhere, but Boston gets a bad rep and I can see why. I’m not from Boston, but I’ve met some folks from there and while most are terrific people, I’ve met some that have floated some racist **** by me that I was quick to shut down. Just a reminder, if ya’ll see someone at a game spouting some racist remarks or just crossing the line with taunting players in general, let them know to cut that **** out. Boston is under the microscope.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#126 » by nickgammon » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:44 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im just excited for everything post thursday:

-If AD is on the Pelicans still, I feel extrordinarily confident we get him [86%, to be clear]

-If AD is on the Lakers, Im expecting Ainge to have trades Kyrie and Yabu for DSJ , DAJ and that unprotected Mavs first.

I can honestly get behind either path (though I would clearly prefer the first option)— I just want to know at this point.


I honestly believe the tactic Rich Paul is using to get AD to the Lakers is not going to work out all this leaks to hurt the Pelicans leverage must have the Pels FO pissed. I think they would prefer to take a slightly lesser pacakage from another team than taking the LA package.


I think they just take the best package possible. Their only hope of staying in New Orleans is getting Jayson Tatum. If they get anything less than him, I truly believe they’re relocating to Seattle
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#127 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:46 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:All I need now is for Rich Paul to have someone say something to the effect of “I dont want AD to go to Boston cuz its racist” and I’ll hit Bingo


That’s how I believe AD’s dad feels too. He’s talking about loyalty when his son’s demanding a trade. Doesn’t make sense. If I was Shelbourne, my follow up would’ve been “would you have wanted him to play there before the IT trade?” And, not to put words in his mouth, but I bet it would be something like “No, that team wasn’t talented enough.”

If the reports of KCP not being included in the trade package, it’s so obvious that he’s just trying to stack all of his players on the same team. That is 100% a conflict of interest and the NBA should launch an investigation. They won’t launch one until LeBron is tired and the headlines settle down and then unveil the corruption 10 years after the fact, because all of this stuff is good for ratings and they’re scared to go after LeBron or anyone in his circle.



On the note of racism, it happens everywhere, but Boston gets a bad rep and I can see why. I’m not from Boston, but I’ve met some folks from there and while most are terrific people, I’ve met some that have floated some racist **** by me that I was quick to shut down. Just a reminder, if ya’ll see someone at a game spouting some racist remarks or just crossing the line with taunting players in general, let them know to cut that **** out. Boston is under the microscope.


The entire country is racist— LA is no different than Boston, which is no different than Philladelphia, Toronto, New York or Chicago. Unfortunately the disease has impacted the country through and through, though I’m optimistic that its being acknowledged and people are working to fix it.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#128 » by mwhis21 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:47 pm

mbsnmisc wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:Doesn't seem like Lakers are really all-in.

It is Negotiation 101. They come in with a borderline ludicrous offer and come up from there. Magic is not a dummy, he understands Boston's hands are tied by the Rose Rule. He also knows we have superior assets. He will make his real offer as 2/7 draws near. We are nowhere near the driver's seat until the deadline expires.

Buckle up ladies and gents, the bumpy part of this ride is still ahead.


It’s not negotiating 101 when everyone involved can see the cards of every other player. It’s arrogance 101.

Everyone knows what everyone can offer. The Lakers are banking the Pelicans get impatient and caving.

I hope it backfires. Lakers arrogance cost them PG13, hope it happens here too.
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Post#129 » by truth18 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:51 pm

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nickgammon wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:All I need now is for Rich Paul to have someone say something to the effect of “I dont want AD to go to Boston cuz its racist” and I’ll hit Bingo


That’s how I believe AD’s dad feels too. He’s talking about loyalty when his son’s demanding a trade. Doesn’t make sense. If I was Shelbourne, my follow up would’ve been “would you have wanted him to play there before the IT trade?” And, not to put words in his mouth, but I bet it would be something like “No, that team wasn’t talented enough.”

If the reports of KCP not being included in the trade package, it’s so obvious that he’s just trying to stack all of his players on the same team. That is 100% a conflict of interest and the NBA should launch an investigation. They won’t launch one until LeBron is tired and the headlines settle down and then unveil the corruption 10 years after the fact, because all of this stuff is good for ratings and they’re scared to go after LeBron or anyone in his circle.



On the note of racism, it happens everywhere, but Boston gets a bad rep and I can see why. I’m not from Boston, but I’ve met some folks from there and while most are terrific people, I’ve met some that have floated some racist **** by me that I was quick to shut down. Just a reminder, if ya’ll see someone at a game spouting some racist remarks or just crossing the line with taunting players in general, let them know to cut that **** out. Boston is under the microscope.


The entire country is racist— LA is no different than Boston, which is no different than Philladelphia, Toronto, New York or Chicago. Unfortunately the disease has impacted the country through and through, though I’m optimistic that its being acknowledged and people are working to fix it.


Yup. And for the record (though, I've only had a good time there as a black man despite coming across a Klan flyer on the street) Portland, Oregon is by far the most racist NBA city. Historically so but I also have many friends of mine who went to college out there and they have seen some really bad stuff go down to say the least.

Yet, most NBA fans just think it's a place where weird people go to get high. Perception is a powerful thing as we are seeing with these NBA rumors as well.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#130 » by akhan786 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:52 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
akhan786 wrote:Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors


Woj grew up in Connecticut [before moving to NJ, I believe] and is a massive Red Sox fan. Pretty sure I’ve heard him say he likes the Pats as well. I’m willing to guarantee that deep down he dislikes the Lakers, much like Ramona dislikes the Celtics deep down.

Lowe was an open Celtics fan til 2008, saying that the KG-Pierce-Allen title was the last he rooted for as a fan. However, he also admitted watching ECF game 7 with his dad [who is a huge Celtics fan] and being disappointed for him when it didnt work out.

Believe me, we’ve got troops to battle the propaganda war. We will continue to clap back through Thursday.


Ramona, Woj, and Lowe are handicapped by integrity and professionalism.

Paul Pierce doesn’t have to give a f***. Like so many of other NBA player commentators and media establishment that have an interest in Lebron completing his “chosen destiny”. Need to fight fire with fire and we’re right now just taking it.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#131 » by truth18 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:54 pm

akhan786 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
akhan786 wrote:Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors


Woj grew up in Connecticut [before moving to NJ, I believe] and is a massive Red Sox fan. Pretty sure I’ve heard him say he likes the Pats as well. I’m willing to guarantee that deep down he dislikes the Lakers, much like Ramona dislikes the Celtics deep down.

Lowe was an open Celtics fan til 2008, saying that the KG-Pierce-Allen title was the last he rooted for as a fan. However, he also admitted watching ECF game 7 with his dad [who is a huge Celtics fan] and being disappointed for him when it didnt work out.

Believe me, we’ve got troops to battle the propaganda war. We will continue to clap back through Thursday.


Ramona, Woj, and Lowe are handicapped by integrity and professionalism.

Paul Pierce doesn’t have to give a f***. Like so many of other NBA player commentators and media establishment that have an interest in Lebron completing his “chosen destiny”.


I don't consider Ramona professional at all. She'd probably burn down the Garden with Plaschke if they could get away with it.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#132 » by La Flame » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:55 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
akhan786 wrote:Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors


Woj grew up in Connecticut [before moving to NJ, I believe] and is a massive Red Sox fan. Pretty sure I’ve heard him say he likes the Pats as well. I’m willing to guarantee that deep down he dislikes the Lakers, much like Ramona dislikes the Celtics deep down.

Lowe was an open Celtics fan til 2008, saying that the KG-Pierce-Allen title was the last he rooted for as a fan. However, he also admitted watching ECF game 7 with his dad [who is a huge Celtics fan] and being disappointed for him when it didnt work out.

Believe me, we’ve got troops to battle the propaganda war. We will continue to clap back through Thursday.


Woj is known for disliking Lebron a lot. He has even written multiple negative articles about him dating back to 2009
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Post#133 » by akhan786 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:57 pm

They still have to have an air of professionalism because they’re not NBA alumni or former athletes
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Post#134 » by winsomme2 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:57 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Im just excited for everything post thursday:

-If AD is on the Pelicans still, I feel extrordinarily confident we get him [86%, to be clear]

-If AD is on the Lakers, Im expecting Ainge to have trades Kyrie and Yabu for DSJ , DAJ and that unprotected Mavs first.

I can honestly get behind either path (though I would clearly prefer the first option)— I just want to know at this point.



Do you think the knicks would do that trade though? Seems lopsided for the celtics


Without the first, absolutely— they have no plans on resigning DAJ and in an ideal world they’re trading DSJ this summer after Kyrie signs anyways. Ainge extracts a first from them in exchange for the certainty of the situation, where NY has Kyrie and max cap space, potentially with Zion on the way as well.


They're not gonna trade for Kyrie this season because they need to tank for Zion.
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Post#135 » by celtxman » Sat Feb 2, 2019 2:58 pm

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TA42 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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Exactly. Winning has a way of changing things. Just get AD in front of our crowd during the playoffs and have him feel what it’s like to be appreciated. He’ll stay.


You're completely missing the point with KG. Danny didn't trade for KG until he was able to persuade him to re-sign with the C's. Particularly, it took adding Ray Allen to get to that point.

What is never mentioned about KG is that once he was convinced that the Celtics were legitimate championship contenders he took LESS money in re-signing. Kyrie will get contracts coming up that will keep generations of his family taken care of. If he was like KG he would sign a 5 year deal now with an player option after 1 year (multiple years to protect Kyrie against injuries) and suddenly AD becomes a Celtic by Thursday
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#136 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:00 pm

La Flame wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
akhan786 wrote:Paul Pierce is all we have to wage this media propaganda war on national TV.

He needs to be pushing Kyrie + AD in Boston. And that the Peli’s should take a page from Pop and not trade AD within conference and give in to LA who needs no favors


Woj grew up in Connecticut [before moving to NJ, I believe] and is a massive Red Sox fan. Pretty sure I’ve heard him say he likes the Pats as well. I’m willing to guarantee that deep down he dislikes the Lakers, much like Ramona dislikes the Celtics deep down.

Lowe was an open Celtics fan til 2008, saying that the KG-Pierce-Allen title was the last he rooted for as a fan. However, he also admitted watching ECF game 7 with his dad [who is a huge Celtics fan] and being disappointed for him when it didnt work out.

Believe me, we’ve got troops to battle the propaganda war. We will continue to clap back through Thursday.


Woj is known for disliking Lebron a lot. He has even written multiple negative articles about him dating back to 2009


You dont stop rooting for teams subconciously, even if you say you’re no longer a fan for professional reasons. Facts are, your family still probably roots for said team and you always want your family to be happy.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#137 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:01 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:

Do you think the knicks would do that trade though? Seems lopsided for the celtics


Without the first, absolutely— they have no plans on resigning DAJ and in an ideal world they’re trading DSJ this summer after Kyrie signs anyways. Ainge extracts a first from them in exchange for the certainty of the situation, where NY has Kyrie and max cap space, potentially with Zion on the way as well.


They're not gonna trade for Kyrie this season because they need to tank for Zion.


Worst 3 records have equal chances at the top. Plus, Kyrie is dinged up and you can strategically sit him when needed.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#138 » by chrisab123 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:23 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
nickgammon wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:All I need now is for Rich Paul to have someone say something to the effect of “I dont want AD to go to Boston cuz its racist” and I’ll hit Bingo


That’s how I believe AD’s dad feels too. He’s talking about loyalty when his son’s demanding a trade. Doesn’t make sense. If I was Shelbourne, my follow up would’ve been “would you have wanted him to play there before the IT trade?” And, not to put words in his mouth, but I bet it would be something like “No, that team wasn’t talented enough.”

If the reports of KCP not being included in the trade package, it’s so obvious that he’s just trying to stack all of his players on the same team. That is 100% a conflict of interest and the NBA should launch an investigation. They won’t launch one until LeBron is tired and the headlines settle down and then unveil the corruption 10 years after the fact, because all of this stuff is good for ratings and they’re scared to go after LeBron or anyone in his circle.



On the note of racism, it happens everywhere, but Boston gets a bad rep and I can see why. I’m not from Boston, but I’ve met some folks from there and while most are terrific people, I’ve met some that have floated some racist **** by me that I was quick to shut down. Just a reminder, if ya’ll see someone at a game spouting some racist remarks or just crossing the line with taunting players in general, let them know to cut that **** out. Boston is under the microscope.


The entire country is racist— LA is no different than Boston, which is no different than Philladelphia, Toronto, New York or Chicago. Unfortunately the disease has impacted the country through and through, though I’m optimistic that its being acknowledged and people are working to fix it.


Boston is the punching bag of the east coast due to the busing crisis in the 70s. Apparently racism didnt happen anywhere else during that time. But yeah that stuff will be out there before the deadline. Rich Paul is pulling out all the stops. Then you get LeBron trying to pressure New Orleans to take Lonzo Kuzma and a pu pu platter of scrubs. Its actually quite interesting how the media is playing this for LeBron. I guess this is what happens when LeBron doesn't get his help.

All that being said Boston has been ripped for the last couple days since they have the best package for AD. At this point Ainge is probably going all in on him. Even though i think theres a real risk he pulls a Kawhi from last year and has a "quad injury" which causes him to miss 70 games or so unless he goes to LA.

Oh yeah and the KCP stuff is pretty alarming
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#139 » by Triple7 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:33 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Without the first, absolutely— they have no plans on resigning DAJ and in an ideal world they’re trading DSJ this summer after Kyrie signs anyways. Ainge extracts a first from them in exchange for the certainty of the situation, where NY has Kyrie and max cap space, potentially with Zion on the way as well.


They're not gonna trade for Kyrie this season because they need to tank for Zion.


Worst 3 records have equal chances at the top. Plus, Kyrie is dinged up and you can strategically sit him when needed.


They would just wait for the season to be over. No point for them to do that.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#140 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:43 pm

I’m beginning to think we’ll make it past the deadline as long as Demps thinks rationally and doesn’t make any stupid moves.

How much more do the Lakers have to offer?

There is starting with a ordinary deal and raising it. But I honestly don’t think the Lakers have much more to throw in nor will Magic and Pelinka want to trade away their entire roster for one player.

To me their draft picks are useless too. If they did manage to trade for AD and somehow maintain a decent roster around him and LeBron, what use are those picks to the Pelicans? They’ll likely be in the 25-30 range. There’s little value there at all.

I don’t really get why people are worried about the Knicks either. They are a complete joke of an organisation. Any star player wanting to sign there the way they’re currently constructed is crazy. Yes Durant and Kyrie are both strange dudes. But Durant will likely win a third ring this year. Yes maybe he does get bored, but what the hell makes anyone think he’d leave such a great situation like that? If they win he can go for four straight titles, have the chance to make history with Curry and co. I think people continue to forget this.

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