Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 9: Vet Min or Viet Minh?

[CSL_1904]

Is he a good defender?

[grindtime22]

We have Kanter if we want a Center to take low percentage 3's.

If we're relying on Theis to stretch the floor, we're f*cked. Get Cousins if that's the plan.

Theis can't guard the Embiid's of the world and he struggled down the stretch of the season.

He can shoot though. 38% from three last year

Like I said, Theis got abused constantly against taller/large body bigs. Embiid eat him alive. So did KAT.

Theis embarrassed himself both times we played the Timberwolves.

No Doubt. These are guys that eat a lot guys up though. We were just spoiled to have Horford and Baynes as our frame of reference. KAT would probably embarrass all of our current bigs unless Williams figures some stuff out quickly. I didn't think Williams really deserved the minutes last year, but I hope we give him a bigger chance to learn on the job this year.

[DarkAzcura]

Regardless of whether Kawhi goes there or not, the NBA needs to make serious changes. Small market teams have to be 110% perfect, while the Lakers can be a top 3 incompetent organization and get players because they just want to go there.

I’ve said it a million times, there needs to be one major max contract per team that is worth 40-45% of the cap with the next highest contract being no higher than 20-25%. Still allow teams to keep their drafted players at any price to reward good drafting. Unfortunately my suggestion wouldn’t have stopped KD to the Warriors but whatever. That was incredible management; I can’t fault them for that. This would prevent whatever is going on with the Lakers, though.

It wasn't incredible management....it was total idiocy on the part of the league allowing a huge increase in the cap in just one year rather than phasing it in.

Having Curry, Klay, and Draymond playing at all time great levels on small money is incredible management and development. There is no two ways about that. Having their salaries at a reasonable level allowed them to take advantage of the cap spike. It is dumb on the league, but it is still incredible management. Not sure how anyone could argue that.

We almost had an advantage with the cap spike as well being able to sign both Horford and Durant in the same offseason. That also was fantastic cap management and team building on the Celtics part.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Ainge continues to make earth-shattering moves that rock the very foundation
of the NBA.

But I think he'll be decent...

[BigTrade92]

How long do we have to renounce Theis?

Is there a date or anything or is it just up to us?

[Bohemian]

My source was right then haha. He has told me to tell you that "in the Spanish league few people knew about Poirier's signing, so it was even more difficult to believe it"

You scooped Shams!

All the credit goes to @Esoyaquello who is a diehard Celtics fan, of course. I am just the messenger of sweet news haha

[zoyathedestroya]

How long do we have to renounce Theis?

Is there a date or anything or is it just up to us?

Once we need the cap space, I imagine he will be renounced.
Or who knows, maybe some NBA team makes an offer for him. We don't match at that point.

[The Corey's]

Kemba gonna have to elevate Tatum and browns play for our team to even think about a ECF.

[sully00]

SWC made a good point about a potential lockout if Kawhi ends up in LAL. There will be some owner rage at that.

Said it in the previous thread that it needs to happen. Even the nets signing kyrie, Durant for less money and DJ going there for pennies leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


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The very fact that he could - and 90% of players in league absolutely would in his shoes - should be enough to lead to lockout. If lockout cripples league and lasts for years....good! The NBA has sucked since 2012 with the only bright light being the Warriors before Durant. Toronto winning it all thanks to season ending injuries to Durant and Klay in back to back games is not the “surprise” upset you look for as a fan. There was never any hope for anything but a GS 3 peat until Durant injured his ACL.

The owners created it. They don't want long term contracts and artificially limit salaries with the max salaries to the point that guys like Lebron and Durant make more money from their sneakers than basketball. This is the outcome of their last lockout.

[Turgon]

I don't get this obsession with cutting Theis. By all accounts everybody loves him, he's been nothing but great here and he's been paid the minimum.

Yes, he had some problems last season. He also came from a nasty knee injury but I guess if your name isn't Kyrie or Hayward nobody cares.

He's our ONLY big that can shoot. Not the only one that can shoot well. The only one who can shoot, period. In Brad's system you need guys like him to spread the floor. He's also a better defender than Poirier.

I hope we can keep him here at something like 1.5 million, which I think is the minimum he can earn. You guys wanna get rid of someone? Try Yabusele, who's getting paid twice as much.

[GoGreen]

Did KOQ just prefer the sixers? A one year minimum deal and you're saying the Cs couldn't offer that? Rather have him than Poirier.

[Bill Lumbergh]

My source was right then haha. He has told me to tell you that "in the Spanish league few people knew about Poirier's signing, so it was even more difficult to believe it"

More Bohemian Bombs please.

[sully00]

Regardless of whether Kawhi goes there or not, the NBA needs to make serious changes. Small market teams have to be 110% perfect, while the Lakers can be a top 3 incompetent organization and get players because they just want to go there.

I’ve said it a million times, there needs to be one major max contract per team that is worth 40-45% of the cap with the next highest contract being no higher than 20-25%. Still allow teams to keep their drafted players at any price to reward good drafting. Unfortunately my suggestion wouldn’t have stopped KD to the Warriors but whatever. That was incredible management; I can’t fault them for that. This would prevent whatever is going on with the Lakers, though.

There seems to be less imbalance in the NHL. What are they doing right?

Hard Cap and no max salaries

[zoyathedestroya]

My source was right then haha. He has told me to tell you that "in the Spanish league few people knew about Poirier's signing, so it was even more difficult to believe it"

More Bohemian Bombs please.

Anything about the Celtics trading for Bradley Beal or KAT, Boheme?

[3D Chess]

Kawhi can announce his decision now that the Poirier domino has fallen.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I like our squad now. Only issue is that outside of G Williams, I don't see a natural 4 on the team. Don't like playing Tatum there. He's a natural 3. That, and we're very young on the second unit. I think it'll be a really fun season where we likely surprise a lot of people. We have three big ifs going into the season. Can Tatum and Brown take that next step and become reliable, night in, night out players, and can Hayward bounce back to all-star form. If those things happen, we'll be a problem for everybody.

Edit: This is the kind of team that Brad usually excels with, so there's that.

[Celtics418]

Can someone post an update of our current roster? Did we renounce our rights to Morris?

[Bohemian]

My source was right then haha. He has told me to tell you that "in the Spanish league few people knew about Poirier's signing, so it was even more difficult to believe it"

More Bohemian Bombs please.

Anything about the Celtics trading for Bradley Beal or KAT, Boheme?

Hahaha I am afraid not

[LuckyLeprechaun]

I don't get this obsession with cutting Theis. By all accounts everybody loves him, he's been nothing but great here and he's been paid the minimum.

Yes, he had some problems last season. He also came from a nasty knee injury but I guess if your name isn't Kyrie or Hayward nobody cares.

He's our ONLY big that can shoot. Not the only one that can shoot well. The only one who can shoot, period. In Brad's system you need guys like him to spread the floor. He's also a better defender than Poirier.

I hope we can keep him here at something like 1.5 million, which I think is the minimum he can earn. You guys wanna get rid of someone? Try Yabusele, who's getting paid twice as much.

I'm starting to think Brad must be planning on adjusting his offense to not need a shooting big. All the moves this off-season signal that not being a priority anymore.

[Ernest]

Regardless of whether Kawhi goes there or not, the NBA needs to make serious changes. Small market teams have to be 110% perfect, while the Lakers can be a top 3 incompetent organization and get players because they just want to go there.

I’ve said it a million times, there needs to be one major max contract per team that is worth 40-45% of the cap with the next highest contract being no higher than 20-25%. Still allow teams to keep their drafted players at any price to reward good drafting. Unfortunately my suggestion wouldn’t have stopped KD to the Warriors but whatever. That was incredible management; I can’t fault them for that. This would prevent whatever is going on with the Lakers, though.

It wasn't incredible management....it was total idiocy on the part of the league allowing a huge increase in the cap in just one year rather than phasing it in.

Having Curry, Klay, and Draymond playing at all time great levels on small money is incredible management and development. There is no two ways about that. Having their salaries at a reasonable level allowed them to take advantage of the cap spike. It is dumb on the league, but it is still incredible management. Not sure how anyone could argue that.

We almost had an advantage with the cap spike as well being able to sign both Horford and Durant in the same offseason. That also was fantastic cap management and team building on the Celtics part.

Yep. When that new TV deal came in, it **** us. Royally. Now every team had max money to spend. We had earned it by smart signings and trades.We should have been the best destination for KD. But, a new TV deal and now every team could offer him the max. That was bull. They should have taken in all the money and spread it out over a few years. Other teams should have realized how bad this would be. That was a worse setback than Kayrie leaving us.