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Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2019-2020, Part 3 – "Playoff Version"

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Post#121 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:49 pm

Paskal Siakam fell off quite a bit from the player we saw early in the season. If he doesn't go back to that, Toronto is really short on elite offensive talent. For as good as Van Fleet has been, he is not carrying you offensively in a 2nd round series.

Even without Hayward, the matchups favor Boston more in a series against Toronto than they do against the Sixers IMO.
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Post#122 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:50 pm

This was the one to steal for BKN. Raps not at the top of their game today. They're just savvy. Keep finding ways to climb back in and win.
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Post#123 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:55 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:This was the one to steal for BKN. Raps not at the top of their game today. They're just savvy. Keep finding ways to climb back in and win.


The Nets knew KD was not going to play and I don't think there was anyone that believed that Irving wasn't going to miss most of the season with an injury. Nets plan was to tank this year and I still cannot believe they made the playoffs.
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Post#124 » by John-S » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:58 pm

Nets need this one cuz Tor is struggling and specially like shooting 50% from ft. If they lose this it is done in 4
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Post#125 » by Tatumfor2 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:01 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:I've never really paid attention to Jarrett Allen for a full game until today (no DAJ for Nets). He's quite good, huh? Super impressed with his passing on the short roll, his ability to stay with his man but also challenge drivers, and his tenacity on the boards. Nets would be buried again today if not for his brilliant play.

His backup Kurucs has been garbage. Raptors on a run again as soon as Allen sat.


I agree. He really impressed me today. Unfortunately he can't do it all himself.
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Post#126 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:02 pm

Poor Nets. It's Jarrett Allen, Garrett Temple, and no one else playing both ends pretty much. Allen is gassed.
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Post#127 » by John-S » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:03 pm

A super athletic guard/wing like Powell that can get to the rim averaging 17ppg and shooting 40% from deep and defend coming from your bench is huge luxury
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Post#128 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:09 pm

Nets blew it. This gonna be a sweep now.
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Post#129 » by djFan71 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:13 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Nets blew it. This gonna be a sweep now.

Don't worry. They have homecourt the next 2.
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Post#130 » by John-S » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:20 pm

A lot of thier vets were ass offensively Gasol, Ibaka, Siakam, Lowry...Nets still lose because that is what defence does. Never takes nights off like offense or shooting.
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Post#131 » by Slax » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:22 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Paskal Siakam fell off quite a bit from the player we saw early in the season. If he doesn't go back to that, Toronto is really short on elite offensive talent. For as good as Van Fleet has been, he is not carrying you offensively in a 2nd round series.

Even without Hayward, the matchups favor Boston more in a series against Toronto than they do against the Sixers IMO.

Siakam never fully recaptured what he was doing before the groin injury in December, but the dropoff since the start of the bubble has been crazy. I'm curious what's going on there.
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Post#132 » by threrf23 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 pm

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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Paskal Siakam fell off quite a bit from the player we saw early in the season. If he doesn't go back to that, Toronto is really short on elite offensive talent. For as good as Van Fleet has been, he is not carrying you offensively in a 2nd round series.

Even without Hayward, the matchups favor Boston more in a series against Toronto than they do against the Sixers IMO.

Siakam never fully recaptured what he was doing before the groin injury in December, but the dropoff since the start of the bubble has been crazy. I'm curious what's going on there.


Siakam looked horrible at times in last year's playoffs as well. It's just who he is IMO. While he has become a better player than Jae Crowder, he is like Jae Crowder IMO. His game revolves around staying in high gear at all times and that can take a toll. Come the playoffs, on some level he may be tired or hurt, and even if he isn't tired or hurt, he just doesn't have that extra gear that others have. The intensity rises around him and it neutralizes one of his biggest advantages.
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Post#133 » by Slax » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:52 pm

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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Paskal Siakam fell off quite a bit from the player we saw early in the season. If he doesn't go back to that, Toronto is really short on elite offensive talent. For as good as Van Fleet has been, he is not carrying you offensively in a 2nd round series.

Even without Hayward, the matchups favor Boston more in a series against Toronto than they do against the Sixers IMO.

Siakam never fully recaptured what he was doing before the groin injury in December, but the dropoff since the start of the bubble has been crazy. I'm curious what's going on there.


Siakam looked horrible at times in last year's playoffs as well. It's just who he is IMO. While he has become a better player than Jae Crowder, he is like Jae Crowder IMO. His game revolves around staying in high gear at all times and that can take a toll. Come the playoffs, on some level he may be tired or hurt, and even if he isn't tired or hurt, he just doesn't have that extra gear that others have. The intensity rises around him and it neutralizes one of his biggest advantages.

Interesting take! I'm not really sure why he's struggling but that's a possibility
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Post#134 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:18 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:I wouldn't have read this crap even if I had a subscription. This an Onion article?
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Post#135 » by GreenFor3 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:40 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:I've never really paid attention to Jarrett Allen for a full game until today (no DAJ for Nets). He's quite good, huh? Super impressed with his passing on the short roll, his ability to stay with his man but also challenge drivers, and his tenacity on the boards. Nets would be buried again today if not for his brilliant play.

His backup Kurucs has been garbage. Raptors on a run again as soon as Allen sat.

Allen's why the DAJ signing made absolutely no sense. It was the only position they were actually all set at already. But I guess Durant and Irving wanted their friend there too.
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Post#136 » by John-S » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:57 am

Vintage playoff PG13 MIA stinking it up, but doesn’t matter when you have Kawhi and a deep team, you can hide.
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Post#137 » by John-S » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:00 am

GreenFor3 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:I've never really paid attention to Jarrett Allen for a full game until today (no DAJ for Nets). He's quite good, huh? Super impressed with his passing on the short roll, his ability to stay with his man but also challenge drivers, and his tenacity on the boards. Nets would be buried again today if not for his brilliant play.

His backup Kurucs has been garbage. Raptors on a run again as soon as Allen sat.

Allen's why the DAJ signing made absolutely no sense. It was the only position they were actually all set at already. But I guess Durant and Irving wanted their friend there too.


I don’t think Nets are going to be nearly as good as everyone thinks they will be next year without their president going to work. Their pieces just don’t fit. Levert or Spencer are not guys you want on the floor getting limited touches. They are not spot up shooters or defenders.
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Post#138 » by John-S » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:16 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Paskal Siakam fell off quite a bit from the player we saw early in the season. If he doesn't go back to that, Toronto is really short on elite offensive talent. For as good as Van Fleet has been, he is not carrying you offensively in a 2nd round series.

Even without Hayward, the matchups favor Boston more in a series against Toronto than they do against the Sixers IMO.


Nah, Raptors have multiple elite defensive wings with length and athleticism that can clamp or target Tatum and Brown in a 7 game playoff setting. Sixers are nowhere near the squad even with Simmons. But Siakam has really been average to down right bad offensively even with Nets having no one that should be able to guard him. He is still getting 19 ppg these last 2 games but he has been 4-13 and 6-14 from the floor and missing easy layups. Still very elite and rangy on the defensive end though. Levert does nothing when they try to get him away from Ananoby with a pick and Siakam switches on to him at the key.
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Post#139 » by John-S » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:52 am

That was definitely a foul there on Morris being sneaky
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Post#140 » by John-S » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:02 am

Who thinks Clippers could have easy been down 0-2 after tonight if KP isn’t kicked out early in the 3rd last game?

That is the playoff PG13 I know

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