Celts Get Caught in a Thunderstorm! Loss vs OKC 1/2/24

[GrandTheftRondo]

I’m really not sure what some of you are seeing with Queta.

Kornet is just a standard sort of 3 string center.

Queta has done some good things recently but he doesn’t get minutes for good reasons. He is absolutely awful at rotating properly on defence.

He also is a terrible finisher offensively

[playa-hater]

We were down by 18 with half a quarter left & almost came back to win & thats one of your main takeaways ?

Some of you posters are pathetic when it comes to your analysis on Joe.

If you are confident with Joe in a tight playoff series than that's on you.. Sick and tired of people saying I am supposed to like and/or be confident with Joe. I am not.. So many **** sheep...

Well I have to say I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach get bashed so much with so little actual analysis

This team has already relied on Tatum and Brown performing to a high level. Our last two playoff shortcomings have been off the back of one of them not playing to their standard.

It happened under Ime and last season under Joe.

We are undefeated at home, have lost just 7 games on the road and all the losses have been very close yet the talk is like we've got some horrific dude coaching us to a .500 record.

Funny because I think Joe gets too much analysis based on regular season accomplishments. This is a ridiculously talented roster who should easily obtain a top regular season record. Come playoffs everything gets magnified. We will see then.

[Sweet Serenity]

JB going jack up shots no matter what. He can score 20+ points next game on the same shots. Zero impact on winning basketball. White 12 shots. JB 18.

If White can consistently shoot close to 10 shots a game why can’t Brown do that?

You must have missed the last month of Celtics games ?

Brown was averaging 25 points on 54/43 splits in the last 10 games & you want him to shoot it 10 times ?
The things some of you people say on this board is laughable.

I’ve watched every game this year. He’s not a winning basketball player.

I won’t waste my energy arguing I can see why some people are fooled by the flashy plays. I really shouldn’t compare JB to White though, that’s setting the bar too high. White is an example of a winning selfless basketball player. JB just doesn’t have IT

Because you’re looking at it through the eyes of someone who doesn’t like Jaylen & i know that because all your posts on this forum are all negative towards Jaylen.

It’s just bizarre that you can tell us you’ve watched every game this year & say he’s not a winning basketball player after the month he’s had.

Nothing changes for people like you. You’ll glance over his improvement’s & then come right back here to spew the same nonsense you’ve been spewing as soon as he has one bad game.

[fallguy]

I’m really not sure what some of you are seeing with Queta.

Kornet is just a standard sort of 3 string center.

Queta has done some good things recently but he doesn’t get minutes for good reasons. He is absolutely awful at rotating properly on defence.

He also is a terrible finisher offensively

I think it's fair to say Queta would not have made the difference tonight.

Considering the refs, he might have fouled out in five minutes.

[GrandTheftRondo]

If you are confident with Joe in a tight playoff series than that's on you.. Sick and tired of people saying I am supposed to like and/or be confident with Joe. I am not.. So many **** sheep...

Well I have to say I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach get bashed so much with so little actual analysis

This team has already relied on Tatum and Brown performing to a high level. Our last two playoff shortcomings have been off the back of one of them not playing to their standard.

It happened under Ime and last season under Joe.

We are undefeated at home, have lost just 7 games on the road and all the losses have been very close yet the talk is like we've got some horrific dude coaching us to a .500 record.

Funny because I think Joe gets too much analysis based on regular season accomplishments. This is a ridiculously talented roster who should easily obtain a top regular season record. Come playoffs everything gets magnified. We will see then.

I mean I don’t even think I’ve seen him get praised that much?

Last season he came in under trying circumstances and we got to the ECF where our second best player was absolutely horrific.

He also got criticised plenty in that series for the lack of Grant, the execution late in the first few games etc.

This season any time we lose (which has been extremely rare) the default thing seems to be to throw out all the usual bash Mazzulla lines.

I’m personally waiting to see how the season finishes up before making my mind on a second year coach in his mid 30s.

He’ll probably be fired for sure if they go out again in the playoffs in disastrous style

[playa-hater]

There is nothing Kornet does better than Queta in my opinion. So why did Kornet play so many minutes while Queta did not play at all? I don’t get it.

I am a Queta > Kornet guy as well but This game I was more on we didn't need Kornet at all. Hauser played only 10 minutes (2-3) and Brissett seemed way more built to play defense against this fast athletic team. Boston gave up 53 and 45% from the field from 2 and 3.. and Kornet in 15 minutes managed not to grab a single defensive rebound??

grabbed 2 offensive though. al grabbed the same amount of boards in 5 more minutes.

They weren't really grabbed, but tips at the rim. But whatever, it was the defense that hurt us more than Offense. Though playing 15 minutes and scoring 0 hurt as well. Playing Al with Kornet together puts a lot of pressure on everyone trying to help out.

[GrandTheftRondo]

You must have missed the last month of Celtics games ?

Brown was averaging 25 points on 54/43 splits in the last 10 games & you want him to shoot it 10 times ?
The things some of you people say on this board is laughable.

I’ve watched every game this year. He’s not a winning basketball player.

I won’t waste my energy arguing I can see why some people are fooled by the flashy plays. I really shouldn’t compare JB to White though, that’s setting the bar too high. White is an example of a winning selfless basketball player. JB just doesn’t have IT

Because you’re looking at it through the eyes of someone who doesn’t like Jaylen & i know that because all your posts on this forum are all negative towards Jaylen.

It’s just bizarre that you can tell us you’ve watched every game this year & say he’s not a winning basketball player after the month he’s had.

Nothing changes for people like you. You’ll glance over his improvement’s & then come right back here to spew the same nonsense you’ve been spewing as soon as he has one bad game.

We’ve won games without Tatum and Porzingis recently and also been winning in periods with Tatum on the bench which has never happened in the last few seasons.

I know Derrick White has been awesome but I find it hard to believe that could happen if Jaylen is such a negative value to the team lol

[Jaqua92]

Really would have liked to beef our standings lead. We likely lose it during this month. Bucks are gonna beat us on the back to back, so we likely will come out of this month the 2 seed.

The loss wasn't bad. OKC can't hang with us when we bring it.

[KillahGhostface]

Kornet>Queta

[return2glory]

Its good for Tatum to lose to a younger star who is quickly becoming higher profile than he is. He needs something to kick him into taking the next step of leadership of the team.

You're either a leader or you're not. Leadership isn't Tatum's strongest trait. He helps in other areas.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Its good for Tatum to lose to a younger star who is quickly becoming higher profile than he is. He needs something to kick him into taking the next step of leadership of the team.

You're either a leader or you're not. Leadership isn't Tatum's strongest trait. He helps in other areas.

It’s also a difference in basketball ability

As good as Tatum can be, he doesn’t finish with ease or draw fouls as effectively as SGA does.

SGA is really really good. He may end up being the best player in the league at some point.

[Sweet Serenity]

Really would have liked to beef our standings lead. We likely lose it during this month. Bucks are gonna beat us on the back to back, so we likely will come out of this month the 2 seed.

The loss wasn't bad. OKC can't hang with us when we bring it.

The Bucks are not good enough to do that lol

[BK_2020]

Its good for Tatum to lose to a younger star who is quickly becoming higher profile than he is. He needs something to kick him into taking the next step of leadership of the team.

You're either a leader or you're not. Leadership isn't Tatum's strongest trait. He helps in other areas.

It’s also a difference in basketball ability

As good as Tatum can be, he doesn’t finish with ease or draw fouls as effectively as SGA does.

SGA is really really good. He may end up being the best player in the league at some point.

SGA's ceiling is below Luka who's actually younger than him. But SGA's on a good franchise so he'll get a lot of points for being a "winner."

[GrandTheftRondo]

Kornet>Queta

It’s honestly such a waste of breath even discussing either of them anyway.

Provided Al and Kristaps are healthy in April neither will sniff the floor.

They get minutes in December and January because there is no sense in burning out the starters now

[GrandTheftRondo]

You're either a leader or you're not. Leadership isn't Tatum's strongest trait. He helps in other areas.

It’s also a difference in basketball ability

As good as Tatum can be, he doesn’t finish with ease or draw fouls as effectively as SGA does.

SGA is really really good. He may end up being the best player in the league at some point.

SGA's ceiling is below Luka who's actually younger than him. But SGA's on a good franchise so he'll get a lot of points for being a "winner."

SGA plays defence which you can’t really say for Luka.

I’d definitely prefer Luka offensively but with how easily SGA scores 30 and with the ability to affect games defensively I certainly wouldn’t be unhappy if I was stuck with him

[Objectivity]

You must have missed the last month of Celtics games ?

Brown was averaging 25 points on 54/43 splits in the last 10 games & you want him to shoot it 10 times ?
The things some of you people say on this board is laughable.

I’ve watched every game this year. He’s not a winning basketball player.

I won’t waste my energy arguing I can see why some people are fooled by the flashy plays. I really shouldn’t compare JB to White though, that’s setting the bar too high. White is an example of a winning selfless basketball player. JB just doesn’t have IT

Because you’re looking at it through the eyes of someone who doesn’t like Jaylen & i know that because all your posts on this forum are all negative towards Jaylen.

It’s just bizarre that you can tell us you’ve watched every game this year & say he’s not a winning basketball player after the month he’s had.

Nothing changes for people like you. You’ll glance over his improvement’s & then come right back here to spew the same nonsense you’ve been spewing as soon as he has one bad game.

I don’t like Jaylen on this team because I have a preference for team basketball players with natural skills. It has absolutely nothing to do with JB personally.

I’ve had a large enough sample size over the years. JB is not a winning basketball player. I understand JB went on an arch trying to prove he’s a playmaker. It’s still about HIM. Just give the ball to the ball handlers. Seriously selfish. I never said one bad word about White his first year even when shots didn’t always fall because I honestly saw smart winning basketball.

I’m pretty sure Julius Randle is putting up more efficient numbers than JB. If Randle played on this team, you can’t convince me he’s a winning basketball player. Nothing personal, I just don’t like that type of basketball. Randall seems like a pretty nice guy off the court.

I praise players like Halliburton and White because I absolutely love the way they play. It’s NOT ABOUT BROWN!

His PLAY does not pass the team basketball eye test. He plays like he’s always trying to prove he’s good at his weaknesses at the expense of just giving the ball to the ball handlers. I don’t enjoy watching that even when shots fall.

[playa-hater]

Well I have to say I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach get bashed so much with so little actual analysis

This team has already relied on Tatum and Brown performing to a high level. Our last two playoff shortcomings have been off the back of one of them not playing to their standard.

It happened under Ime and last season under Joe.

We are undefeated at home, have lost just 7 games on the road and all the losses have been very close yet the talk is like we've got some horrific dude coaching us to a .500 record.

Funny because I think Joe gets too much analysis based on regular season accomplishments. This is a ridiculously talented roster who should easily obtain a top regular season record. Come playoffs everything gets magnified. We will see then.

I mean I don’t even think I’ve seen him get praised that much?

Last season he came in under trying circumstances and we got to the ECF where our second best player was absolutely horrific.

He also got criticised plenty in that series for the lack of Grant, the execution late in the first few games etc.

This season any time we lose (which has been extremely rare) the default thing seems to be to throw out all the usual bash Mazzulla lines.

I’m personally waiting to see how the season finishes up before making my mind on a second year coach in his mid 30s.

He’ll probably be fired for sure if they go out again in the playoffs in disastrous style

Here is the thing. We have an extremely competitive roster with some great players. Hiring a "coach in his mid 30s" was Probably not the way to go.. Yes there were some tough circumstances involved. But winning a title is hard enough (1 in 38 years) a more seasoned coaching Veteran (I wanted Rick Carlisle) would have been much better fit. Boston hired back to back coaches with NO HC experience who both failed in what we needed most, Guidance in close games at finishing. Especially in the playoffs.

Maybe one day Joe will grow and become a great coach. But as of Now, he looks green at times and definitely looks lost as what to do often. All while I think he definitely is too scared to tell Brown to stop dribbling so much and for Tatum to take far less ISO step back 3s.

[return2glory]

The double big lineup didn't make sense against OKC. This was a game for Brissett and or Stevens. Stevens can guard 1-5, Joe won't let him play. When SGA was going off early in the game against Jrue and White, I would have gone with Stevens for a few minutes on him.

[Sweet Serenity]

Brown’s last 10 games before this one:
25 Points
5.9 Rebounds
4.6 Assists
2.7 Turnovers
54/43/76 splits
+130

Such terrible stats for a guy who doesn’t impact winning hey @Objectivity ?

[Shak_Celts]

Kornet>Queta

this couldn't be truer if it was truth itself! however, i think he wont be by maybe next season, definitely the one after. korny will likely always be smarter basketball-wise but I think Queta will be much better for the game/impact. he has to work hard as hell this offseason but he has something.

I like being wrong, but maybe the universe can ease up a little.