Free Agent, (Trade), Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025

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I was looking at G League stats and I just learned that 31 year old TJ Warren is down there averaging 25/7/4 on 52/35/80 percentages on the Westchester Knicks who have the best record in the G (13-4). I remember after averaging 30 in the bubble he broke his foot or something and then never ever came back to be a useful player, but he’s not that old, at all. I wonder if he can return to NBA level productivity or if these G league stats are fugazi…

Just interesting bc I didn’t even know he was scuffling in the G. I thought TJ Warren retired

[ConstableGeneva]

Bring him home!



Then Herro and LaVine could spiderman-meme themselves into playoff mediocrity.

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Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

[ConstableGeneva]

via NBA Central:

Jimmy Butler’s ‘Anywhere But Miami’ Next Team Odds, via
@BovadaOfficial:

Shanghai Sharks +50000
Guangodong Tigers +50000
FC Barcelona +50000
New Orleans Pelicans +2800
Orlando Magic +2500
Cleveland Cavaliers +2000
Los Angeles Clippers +1400
Sacramento Kings +1200
Memphis Grizzlies +1000
Phoenix Suns +800
Los Angeles Lakers +800
Dallas Mavericks +500
Brooklyn Nets +400
Golden State Warriors +350
Houston Rockets +250

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Charlotte Hornets have their own 2nd and New Orleans Pels 2nd, presently #31 and #33.

Taj Gibson is non-guaranteed $3 million, $1 million guaranteed at present.

How’s this little bookkeeping idea. Celtics trade Jaden Springer ($4 million) and our 1st (presently #28) to Charlotte for Taj Gibson and the better of CHA/NOP 2nd. Celts waive Gibson, free up a roster spot and $3 million. Celts then sign Lonnie Walker or Chuma Okeke or TJ Warren or whoever with 14th roster spot. We move from #28 probably to 31 or 32 in the draft. We keep 15th roster open.

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Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

[Fierce1]

Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

Spurs have more to offer than the Clips.

Even without Butler, Kawhi's return makes Coffey a luxury with DJJ and Mann under contract for multiple years.

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Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

Spurs have more to offer than the Clips.

Even without Butler, Kawhi's return makes Coffey a luxury with DJJ and Mann under contract for multiple years.

So Kawhi (who is always injured), DJJ and Mann (more of a guard than a wing) make Coffey expandable but we need to give up assets for Coffey, even though we have Tatum, Brown, Hauser (and if we're counting Mann for the Clippers, we should also count Jrue and White for Boston) ?

[ConstableGeneva]

Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

How does this even work? Springer/asset to a 4th team?

I very much doubt Clippers do this. They just let PG go since they don't want to pay him max money. Butler wants his max. He's essentially a rental if Clips don't want to pay him. They also lose their depth (Powell, Mann, and Coffey are all gone).

[Fierce1]

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

Spurs have more to offer than the Clips.

Even without Butler, Kawhi's return makes Coffey a luxury with DJJ and Mann under contract for multiple years.

So Kawhi (who is always injured), DJJ and Mann (more of a guard than a wing) make Coffey expandable but we need to give up assets for Coffey, even though we have Tatum, Brown, Hauser (and if we're counting Mann for the Clippers, we should also count Jrue and White for Boston) ?

I'm not saying it will happen.

It's just one possibility.

Coffey is just one of a few that can be traded for Springer's contract.

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Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

Spurs have more to offer than the Clips.

Even without Butler, Kawhi's return makes Coffey a luxury with DJJ and Mann under contract for multiple years.

So Kawhi (who is always injured), DJJ and Mann (more of a guard than a wing) make Coffey expandable but we need to give up assets for Coffey, even though we have Tatum, Brown, Hauser (and if we're counting Mann for the Clippers, we should also count Jrue and White for Boston) ?

Now that I look at it they'd have to trade Kawhi for Butler so they don't really make sense for a Butler trade. 2nd apron aggregation issues means they are out.
Edit: ok maybe not lol I guess I was wrong about being wrong.

[Fierce1]

Spurs have more to offer than the Clips.

Even without Butler, Kawhi's return makes Coffey a luxury with DJJ and Mann under contract for multiple years.

So Kawhi (who is always injured), DJJ and Mann (more of a guard than a wing) make Coffey expandable but we need to give up assets for Coffey, even though we have Tatum, Brown, Hauser (and if we're counting Mann for the Clippers, we should also count Jrue and White for Boston) ?

Now that I look at it they'd have to trade Kawhi for Butler so they don't really make sense for a Butler trade. 2nd apron aggregation issues means they are out.

Clips can trade for Butler without including Kawhi.

I checked.

But Norman Powell is the best player they can offer.

[165bows]

Jimmy Butler trades for Miami that are gonna require a 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 may require Miami to open up a roster spot or two. Miami has a lot of pieces that they may need to move one or two into trade exceptions/for future draft picks because they need open slots to complete that kind of trade.

So guys like Alec Burks, Josh Richardson, Jamie Jaquez, Haywood Highsmith, Kevin Love, Keshad Johnson etc, these players may hit the trade market or waiver wire as Miami deals with this Jimmy situation

Butler to LAC freeing up Celtics to get in on Springer/asset for Amir Coffey, that's my current preference.

How does this even work? Springer/asset to a 4th team?

I very much doubt Clippers do this. They just let PG go since they don't want to pay him max money. Butler wants his max. He's essentially a rental if Clips don't want to pay him. They also lose their depth (Powell, Mann, and Coffey are all gone).

Powell/Batum/tucker/Hyland/Springer/2025 Boston first to Miami, Coffey to Boston, Butler to LAC works.

Takes three guys out of LAC's rotation but adding in Butler/Kawhi is also a pretty strong way to replace Powell/Coffey/Batum.

Just spit balling really as it's pretty dang hard to find a trade that improves this year's current team but that might be one.

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They forgot to trade for Fontecchio last year maybe this year they should bring in Johnny Juzang.

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Whoops, wrong thread..

[Shak_Celts]

Hear me out, Celtics Pride Hartenstein. Wouldn’t even leave okc without an exchange, I’ll give them anyone from Maine… maybe not Ward. Since we can’t make big trades, we gotta get some fans to do what it do.

Thought his contribution was underrated. People wanted him before they snatched him up.

[playa-hater]

As I stated a few days back, Memphis is a real contend to get butler
My sauces are boiling over

[Fierce1]

Jimmy Butler and Nikola Jovic for Jaylen Brown and Xavier Tillman

Who says no?

[Shak_Celts]

As I stated a few days back, Memphis is a real contend to get butler
My sauces are boiling over

Jimmy is always a problem when he wants to leave but when he’s healthy and not mad, he’s going to play hard and well. He’s an excellent player. He’ll rub his teammates the wrong way if they don’t go as hard as he does.

I don’t know if Mem should but they could use some more star talent. I don’t know if Jimmy will be healthy and Ja is already a question mark all the time. Who and what would they have to send?

[Fierce1]

As I stated a few days back, Memphis is a real contend to get butler
My sauces are boiling over

Jimmy is always a problem when he wants to leave but when he’s healthy and not mad, he’s going to play hard and well. He’s an excellent player. He’ll rub his teammates the wrong way if they don’t go as hard as he does.

I don’t know if Mem should but they could use some more star talent. I don’t know if Jimmy will be healthy and Ja is already a question mark all the time. Who and what would they have to send?

A Butler trade to Memphis would cost Memphis Clarke, Smart, Kennard, and Konchar.

I don't know if that's good enough for Riley.