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Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28

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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#121 » by phincsfan » Sat Mar 1, 2025 1:39 pm

Fierce1 wrote:It's not like the Cavs will not be affected if they're missing 2 starters.

The Celtics are missing 2 starters that are vital on defense.

Hauser was getting killed on defense and Al is old.

Celtics already beat the Cavs twice this season.

Yeah, it's frustrating the Cs lost this game, but this is more on the Cavs being better in this game than the Celtics being bad.

There's a reason why the Cavs are the #1 seed and the Cs are not.


Switches on Sam were tough but he's not a 1st unit defender.

PP was terrible and he will get exposed defensively in the playoffs. If he's not scoring his average he gives nothing else on the court.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#122 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 1:50 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:The people who are dying to trade Jrue because of financial reasons hopefully were watching this game.

You are correct about Jrue.

The problem is the issue will be financial and not basketball.

500m+ payroll is just too much.

Yes and as we learned again tonight, we still have him for this year, and he's 50000000x the defender that Hauser is against the Cavs
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#123 » by Fierce1 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:08 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:The people who are dying to trade Jrue because of financial reasons hopefully were watching this game.

You are correct about Jrue.

The problem is the issue will be financial and not basketball.

500m+ payroll is just too much.

Yes and as we learned again tonight, we still have him for this year, and he's 50000000x the defender that Hauser is against the Cavs

True.

I'm a Jrue fan, that's why this loss is not a big deal.

Remove Mobley or Allen and Garland or Strus and the Cavs will not be the same team.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#124 » by Fierce1 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:13 pm

phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:It's not like the Cavs will not be affected if they're missing 2 starters.

The Celtics are missing 2 starters that are vital on defense.

Hauser was getting killed on defense and Al is old.

Celtics already beat the Cavs twice this season.

Yeah, it's frustrating the Cs lost this game, but this is more on the Cavs being better in this game than the Celtics being bad.

There's a reason why the Cavs are the #1 seed and the Cs are not.

Switches on Sam were tough but he's not a 1st unit defender.

PP was terrible and he will get exposed defensively in the playoffs. If he's not scoring his average he gives nothing else on the court.

PP is just a bonus because the Jays and White will be playing 40 minutes or more in the playoffs.

There's no need to make PP a big deal because he's not getting lots of minutes in the playoffs.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#125 » by Jammer » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:16 pm

To everyone who has criticized Jrue Holiday of late:

Understand he has an injury to a tendon in the tip of one of his fingers in his shooting hand that NORMALLY REQUIRES 6 to 8 Weeks of INACTIVITY from sports and stress.

The guy should be sitting out until the start of the playoffs.

Sorry to break the news, but there is a reason for his shooting woes. This also affects his dribbling and his ability to catch or intercept passes.

Layoff until you see what a healthy Jrue can do..
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#126 » by Fierce1 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:21 pm

Jrue is the least of the Cs problems.

What's more concerning is the Cavs offense is better than the Cs.

And the rebounding really suffers if Al is playing Center.

The Cs really need a healthy KP this time around.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#127 » by Lee Van Cleef » Sat Mar 1, 2025 2:56 pm

I know it’s gonna sound too drastic, but I think we should consider resting Jrue and KP till ECF. We will get there without them anyway, but it will be very difficult to win it all without them. They have to be available at that point.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#128 » by Fierce1 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:02 pm

Lee Van Cleef wrote:I know it’s gonna sound too drastic, but I think we should consider resting Jrue and KP till ECF. We will get there without them anyway, but it will be very difficult to win it all without them. They have to be available at that point.

They will be rusty if they miss a lot of time.

Just sit them if not healthy and play them when healthy.

The playoffs is not the time to do load management.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#129 » by fallguy » Sat Mar 1, 2025 3:36 pm

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:Good game to watch…all starters played high minutes…perfectly fine to take a loss rather than push it too hard, this game does not matter in the scheme of things.

This kind of thing happened last year too and many lost their heads about it, but Joe handled things very differently when the playoffs came and I expect him to do the same this year.

Exactly.

Why do people keep acting like Joe should show all his cards in a meaningless March game


Agreed it's mostly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

But the effort JT and JB put in all game – they clearly wanted this one – warranted Joe showing at least one card down the stretch to counteract the Cavs' attack. And he didn't. Not sure if that was strategic or just incompetence. With Joe you never know.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#130 » by bisme37 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:03 pm

I went into the game thinking we were short handed and it was a bigger game for Cavs than us and kinda pre-accepted that we may take a loss. But then I got all competitive about it during the game, got super pissed at the refs etc, and ended up taking it pretty hard lol. Sports are dumb.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#131 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:29 pm

Why are people sugar coating this loss? It's the second game in a row in which the Celtics fell apart in the 2nd half. They don't look like a championship team to me, and they haven't since Christmas.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#132 » by Bar Fight » Sat Mar 1, 2025 6:33 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Why are people sugar coating this loss? It's the second game in a row in which the Celtics fell apart in the 2nd half. They don't look like a championship team to me, and they haven't since Christmas.

They aren't a championship team without Jrue and KP lol. Or even one of them out. This isn't last year. We need to be fully loaded to have a chance
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#133 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Mar 1, 2025 8:13 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Why are people sugar coating this loss? It's the second game in a row in which the Celtics fell apart in the 2nd half. They don't look like a championship team to me, and they haven't since Christmas.

They aren't a championship team without Jrue and KP lol. Or even one of them out. This isn't last year. We need to be fully loaded to have a chance


They haven't looked like a championship team with all of their top 6 in the lineup.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#134 » by Bar Fight » Sat Mar 1, 2025 9:53 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Why are people sugar coating this loss? It's the second game in a row in which the Celtics fell apart in the 2nd half. They don't look like a championship team to me, and they haven't since Christmas.

They aren't a championship team without Jrue and KP lol. Or even one of them out. This isn't last year. We need to be fully loaded to have a chance


They haven't looked like a championship team with all of their top 6 in the lineup.

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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#135 » by 165bows » Sat Mar 1, 2025 10:15 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The people who are dying to trade Jrue because of financial reasons hopefully were watching this game.

You are correct about Jrue.

The problem is the issue will be financial and not basketball.

500m+ payroll is just too much.

Yes and as we learned again tonight, we still have him for this year, and he's 50000000x the defender that Hauser is against the Cavs

Also Sam was a team high +18 on the night as well fwiw.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#136 » by tfribs45 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 10:46 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:PP was bad tonight, but Cavs were his best series last year because Garland + Mitchell is the smallest backcourt we saw so PP was able to be effective. Against CLE last year Pritchard averaged double figures (11ppg) and had the most productive playoff minutes of his career. Payton I think will be fine against this team if we play them in the playoffs again, he was just bad tonight

Dudes have bad games sometimes.

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tfribs45 wrote:
Great reg season player. Come playoff time he’ll get exposed and become a liability defensively

Amen


I don’t mind keeping pp in the rotation but come playoff time Hauser can sit and we need to add some toughness down low. Teams score at ease against us and you can’t play Hauser PP Korny at the same time and expect to beat Elite teams
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#137 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Mar 2, 2025 4:16 am

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redslastlaugh wrote:PP was bad tonight, but Cavs were his best series last year because Garland + Mitchell is the smallest backcourt we saw so PP was able to be effective. Against CLE last year Pritchard averaged double figures (11ppg) and had the most productive playoff minutes of his career. Payton I think will be fine against this team if we play them in the playoffs again, he was just bad tonight

Dudes have bad games sometimes.

Marvel wrote:Amen


I don’t mind keeping pp in the rotation but come playoff time Hauser can sit and we need to add some toughness down low. Teams score at ease against us and you can’t play Hauser PP Korny at the same time and expect to beat Elite teams

We beat the Cavs in February doing just that. PP even played nearly 30 mins in that game. Biggest difference is not having Porzingis and Holiday to defend down the stretch. If we're seeing Hauser late in the 4th, a couple of guys ahead of him are injured.
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#138 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sun Mar 2, 2025 5:34 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Why are people sugar coating this loss? It's the second game in a row in which the Celtics fell apart in the 2nd half. They don't look like a championship team to me, and they haven't since Christmas.

They aren't a championship team without Jrue and KP lol. Or even one of them out. This isn't last year. We need to be fully loaded to have a chance


They haven't looked like a championship team with all of their top 6 in the lineup.

You’re right they’ve only smashed the Knicks, beaten the Cavs twice, just lost on the road against OKC.

WTF are you saying
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#139 » by tfribs45 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:51 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:PP was bad tonight, but Cavs were his best series last year because Garland + Mitchell is the smallest backcourt we saw so PP was able to be effective. Against CLE last year Pritchard averaged double figures (11ppg) and had the most productive playoff minutes of his career. Payton I think will be fine against this team if we play them in the playoffs again, he was just bad tonight

Dudes have bad games sometimes.



I don’t mind keeping pp in the rotation but come playoff time Hauser can sit and we need to add some toughness down low. Teams score at ease against us and you can’t play Hauser PP Korny at the same time and expect to beat Elite teams

We beat the Cavs in February doing just that. PP even played nearly 30 mins in that game. Biggest difference is not having Porzingis and Holiday to defend down the stretch. If we're seeing Hauser late in the 4th, a couple of guys ahead of him are injured.


BIG difference between regular season games and playoff time
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Re: Both Teams Played Hard! Loss vs CLE 2/28 

Post#140 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Mar 3, 2025 3:08 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
I don’t mind keeping pp in the rotation but come playoff time Hauser can sit and we need to add some toughness down low. Teams score at ease against us and you can’t play Hauser PP Korny at the same time and expect to beat Elite teams

We beat the Cavs in February doing just that. PP even played nearly 30 mins in that game. Biggest difference is not having Porzingis and Holiday to defend down the stretch. If we're seeing Hauser late in the 4th, a couple of guys ahead of him are injured.


BIG difference between regular season games and playoff time

Yep, exactly. Cavs haven't proven anything in the playoffs yet.
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