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Re: Celts Shoot Bricks, Lose To Knicks! R2G1 Loss vs NYK 5/5 (NYK leads 1-0) 

Post#121 » by return2glory » Tue May 6, 2025 3:30 am

This loss is on Tatum, Brown, KP and of course Joe.

We blew a huge lead again. Tatum and Brown combined for 14-43 from the field and 5-25 from 3. KP has shown he isn't a playoff player. Playoffs for too tough physically for him. This team just couldn't wait too jack up 3s since Orlando locked them down from 3.
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Post#122 » by return2glory » Tue May 6, 2025 3:36 am

I will say this. I'm grateful for last season's title. Last season we were good and lucky. We played every team in the playoffs with their top player or top 2 players out except for the Finals vs the Mavs. And the Mavs had no business being to the Finals. We were also lucky in a weird way that KP played only 2 or 3 playoff games last season. We played better without him. Everything was lined up for the Celtics, it was meant to be.

After the trade deadline this year, the Cavs improved by getting Hunter. Soon as that happened, I said it's going to be a OKC vs Cavs Finals.
It hard to repeat. Last time the Celtics won back to back was in 1969.

Every game in the playoffs counts. The Celtics gave this win away after having a big lead. We aren't just down 0-1, this loss was a 2 game swing. We should be 1-0, but we are 0-1.
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Post#123 » by TheMartian » Tue May 6, 2025 3:36 am

I prefer teams like the Magic who defend the 3 ball like pitbulls. Forces the Celtics to find other ways to win. Looks like the recipe to beating the Celtics is to LET THEM chuck 3s.
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Post#124 » by return2glory » Tue May 6, 2025 3:39 am

ryan in Maine wrote:Is KP ok


No, he isn't ready for playoff basketball. He proved that last series. He was awful this game. The only thing Joe got right in this game, was bench KP after the 1st half.
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Post#125 » by redslastlaugh » Tue May 6, 2025 3:44 am

TheMartian wrote:I prefer teams like the Magic who defend the 3 ball like pitbulls. Forces the Celtics to find other ways to win. Looks like the recipe to beating the Celtics is to LET THEM chuck 3s.

Well, the defense doesn't really decide what shots you're going to take. The defense can shade you in a direction, they can play up on you or send a double team, but a lot of it is just the Celtics picking their shots.

Like when D White shoots 18 attempts and 16 of those are 3pt attempts, this is much more Derrick's choice and a choice by the offense and the coaching choice than it's the defense forcing Derrick to shoot 2 two pointers and 16 three pointers.

Like if you play 5-out, all of your players are standing outside the 3pt line. This is your choice, you have freedom of movement in the NBA, if all of your players are positioned behind the line and none is moving through the 2 pt area this choice is willingly made by the offense not a choice forced by the defense.
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Post#126 » by leper-con » Tue May 6, 2025 3:45 am

We better win it again this year but our team is going to need a reshuffle and that takes time
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Post#127 » by Fierce1 » Tue May 6, 2025 3:47 am

We still need KP in this series.

The offense will be predictable without an inside presence.
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Post#128 » by Fierce1 » Tue May 6, 2025 3:51 am

This is the first time since the ECF of 2023 that the Cs are trailing in the series.

This will test this Celtic team's championship mettle.
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Post#129 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Tue May 6, 2025 3:53 am

return2glory wrote:I will say this. I'm grateful for last season's title. Last season we were good and lucky. We played every team in the playoffs with their top player or top 2 players out except for the Finals vs the Mavs. And the Mavs had no business being to the Finals. We were also lucky in a weird way that KP played only 2 or 3 playoff games last season. We played better without him. Everything was lined up for the Celtics, it was meant to be.

After the trade deadline this year, the Cavs improved by getting Hunter. Soon as that happened, I said it's going to be a OKC vs Cavs Finals.
It hard to repeat. Last time the Celtics won back to back was in 1969.

Every game in the playoffs counts. The Celtics gave this win away after having a big lead. We aren't just down 0-1, this loss was a 2 game swing. We should be 1-0, but we are 0-1.


It would be disappointing if this franchise can’t win multiple titles with how the east is right now. You got players in their prime years. I can see now why tatum gets a lot of heat. This team is different than last year because they’re one dimensional this season. All they know is shooting 3s.

Again I will be shocked if we don’t bounce back and big.
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Post#130 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Tue May 6, 2025 3:54 am

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ryan in Maine wrote:Is KP ok


No, he isn't ready for playoff basketball. He proved that last series. He was awful this game. The only thing Joe got right in this game, was bench KP after the 1st half.



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Post#131 » by Triple7 » Tue May 6, 2025 3:57 am

return2glory wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:Is KP ok


No, he isn't ready for playoff basketball. He proved that last series. He was awful this game. The only thing Joe got right in this game, was bench KP after the 1st half.


I wasn’t able to watch the game. Bench KP after the 1st half, where we lead by 16, and lost a 20pt lead in the 2nd half? Make that make sense
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Post#132 » by Triple7 » Tue May 6, 2025 4:04 am

I have been saying this. JT has no bag at all. Has no go to move except for that ugly side step 3 ball ughh! He has no mid range game. If he indeed post up against smaller defender, he takes hard turn around fadeaways. He can’t dribble himself to the basket, like Shai, brunson or mitchell. He is not that good at finishing at the rim. He plays SOfT. A little bump and he loses control of the ball. Shot making is average. He is also not that of a good shooter. Just watch Brunson play. If you leave him wide open for anything, he would knock that shot down most of the time. Plus **** Joe and his 3 ball. We were up 20 with 5mins to go in the 3rd. How do you lose that lead in 9mins???
Oh wait, we lose that lead by constantly chucking and bricking 3’s, and not playing defense. Embarrassing
JT should be embarrassed with his play. All he does is chuck ugly 3’s. While the little guy mixes it up.
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Post#133 » by exculpatory » Tue May 6, 2025 4:05 am

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Post#134 » by redslastlaugh » Tue May 6, 2025 4:07 am

return2glory wrote:This loss is on Tatum, Brown, KP and of course Joe.

Well, I'd add White to the blame list as well even though Derrick did some good things on defense and rebounding.
Derrick''s offensive game last year was pretty balanced between three levels of scoring, he could get guys on his hip, get to his floater, make plays for teammates off the dribble, get to the line.

Tonight White was 16 3pt attempts (5-16), only 2 two point attempts, 2 free throws, 2 assists and 2 TOVs. An 8:1 3PTA to assist ratio is not Derrick playing to the strengths of his overall floor game.

And I think we've seen so many games where Derrick is so one dimensional in his shot profile. Not driving, not generating FTs, not generating assists.

Tonight was not a great game for Derrick IMO, despite the work on the boards. And I don't know why the coaches have altered D Whites shot profile so much since he came to the Celtics, as they've made him a much less dynamic player on offense.

You look at his bballref page. The first year under Ime Udoka 48% of Derricks FGAs were 3PTAs. This year Derrick shot 72% of his FGAs as 3PTAs... THis season he had the lowest FT attempt rate of his career and I don't know why they've coached Derrick this way as an organization... because he's not as good as should be because of these changes imo
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Post#135 » by Shak_Celts » Tue May 6, 2025 4:28 am

Hmmm. Good job Denver!
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Post#136 » by Triple7 » Tue May 6, 2025 4:32 am

We have this tendencies to get a big lead, gets cocky, jack up non stop 3’s and brick them. Other team gets hot, and we panic. We don’t have “that” guy that can carry us through. Same thing we did against the Cavs. Same thing we did against the Knicks. Those team have “that” guy that can get you buckets when you need them. Both Mitchell and Brunson can get you buckets. Both inside and outside. Can penetrate to the rim, and are both better shooter than JT and JB. Both have better handles. If we don’t win next game, this will be a sweep. Tatum looked shooked. Much like what he looked like in the heat and warriors series. Better get their act together. Stop taking that much 3’s!!!!!
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Post#137 » by King Of The 4th » Tue May 6, 2025 4:35 am

For what its worth, both Cleveland and OKC lost their first games as well. Misery loves company?
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Post#138 » by The Corey's » Tue May 6, 2025 4:38 am

King Of The 4th wrote:For what its worth, both Cleveland and OKC lost their first games as well. Misery loves company?


I ain't worried about the Knicks. I am worried about wether this team can beat the cavs or OKC now.

They're not scoring nearly enough.
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Post#139 » by PierceFan4ever » Tue May 6, 2025 4:40 am

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King Of The 4th wrote:For what its worth, both Cleveland and OKC lost their first games as well. Misery loves company?


I ain't worried about the Knicks. I am worried about wether this team can beat the cavs or OKC now.

They're not scoring nearly enough.


It’s the offense that’s an issue. I know the Magic defense is good but it’s not that good, I felt like the celts were mediocre most of that series. The offense has been a huge drop off compared to the regular season right now. A massive part has to do with KP basically doing nothing.
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Post#140 » by The Corey's » Tue May 6, 2025 4:41 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
King Of The 4th wrote:For what its worth, both Cleveland and OKC lost their first games as well. Misery loves company?


I ain't worried about the Knicks. I am worried about wether this team can beat the cavs or OKC now.

They're not scoring nearly enough.


It’s the offense that’s an issue. I know the Magic defense is good but it’s not that good, I felt like the celts were mediocre most of that series. The offense has been a huge drop off compared to the regular season right now. A massive part has to do with KP basically doing nothing.


They should beat the Knicks in 5 still. It took a miracle for them to win this one by 3.

But they're not beating the pacers playing like this.

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