2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

Celts17Pride · Post #121 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:58 pm

The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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celticgreenie · Post #122 » by **celticgreenie** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:00 am

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:
celticgreenie wrote:I think Porzingis was an absolute warrior for the Celtics in last year's playoffs gutting it out against Dallas but it's time to move on as his defense this playoffs reminded me of his Dallas days. Wagner had a field day against him.

Coincidentally Brad is looking to move two injury prone guys in Porzingis and Holiday just like he did back when it was Smart and Williams.

The issue is, when you moved on from Smart and Robert Williams, you upgraded. This time, you're probably looking at a major downgrade. With Jayson Tatum dealing with a significant injury and Jaylen Brown just coming off surgery, it's hard to believe that whoever you bring in — or any internal improvement — will come close to replacing what Jrue Holiday and KP bring to the table.

Holiday was hurt in the Orlando series and we didn't need him to finish them off but he had different nagging injuries throughout this last NBA season. Porzingis has been injured the last two seasons in the playoffs. Replacing them with healthier bodies available during crucial playoff runs is already a win. There have been several key players in the playoffs this season who have been hurt and a disproportionate number is on the older side.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #123 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:35 am

Celticlifer wrote:I think we're aiming for Danny Wolf. If KP is gone, we need a big man who can shoot and handle. More so if Al doesn't come back. Wolf reminds me of Kevin McHale, great footwork and smarts, good shooter. Combine numbers were strong, 6’10 ½ barefoot, 251 lbs with a 7’2 ¼" wingspan and 9’1” standing reach. Perfect fit for our style. We will need a guard if Jrue is gone, but we'll have Pritchard and White so we're in pretty good shape.

Reminds me more of a little quicker Kelly O.

Hal14 · Post #124 » by **Hal14** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:35 am

Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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Between this season at Michigan st and his last season of HS ball, from what I saw Jase played around 5% of his mins at PG.

He's much more of a 2-guard imo...shades of Beal, McCollum, Norman Powell..

playa-hater · Post #125 » by **playa-hater** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:53 am

Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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What I am not understanding is Brad has always been so stealth, and while other teams may acknowledge that Boston/Brad may be trying to trade up. How can anyone know they want to trade up for a PG?

And trading up for a 6'1 guard would make me sick. Even if he is CJ McCollum clone. That is a defensive disaster waiting to happen.

Celticlifer · Post #126 » by **Celticlifer** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:55 am

quicker Kelly Olynk is a good description.

celtxman · Post #127 » by **celtxman** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:59 am

Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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He's a nice shooter but small especially with Pritchard there also

Bill Lumbergh · Post #128 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:08 am

celtxman wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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He's a nice shooter but small especially with Pritchard there also

Plus, he's really not a PG, he's a small 2, imo. Personally, I don't want a 2 that measured 6'0.5 in socks.

titlebound1 · Post #129 » by **titlebound1** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:23 am

165bows wrote:I’ll throw another name out there that fits the Celtics’ mold of guards. Tre Johnson.

That kid won me over a couple of years ago when he was at Lake Highlands and he almost took down Duncanville. Would love to see him on the team

brackdan70 · Post #130 » by **brackdan70** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:43 am

Celticlifer wrote:quicker Kelly Olynk is a good description.

And also a really good player

Hal14 · Post #131 » by **Hal14** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:49 am

Hmm..

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Make it happen, Brad!

Larry_Russell · Post #132 » by **Larry_Russell** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:00 am

Bill Lumbergh wrote:
celtxman wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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He's a nice shooter but small especially with Pritchard there also

Plus, he's really not a PG, he's a small 2, imo. Personally, I don't want a 2 that measured 6'0.5 in socks.

Jase is fools gold and will be a bust.

Way too small.

Fierce1 · Post #133 » by **Fierce1** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:01 am

Really makes sense to trade the #2 pick if you already have Fox and Castle.

The Spurs and Wemby are ready to take the next step and that's by adding a star quality vet.

Celts17Pride · Post #134 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:17 am

Hal14 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:The rumor that the Celtics are looking to trade up to target a point guard makes me think Jase Richardson is the apple of Brad Stevens eye. (Just a guess, he fits the Celtics style) In order to get him the Celtics would have to get in the 14-17 range in my opinion. Does Hauser and the #28 pick get you there? What else would the Celtics have to add? Protected 2027 pick? It's interesting.

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Between this season at Michigan st and his last season of HS ball, from what I saw Jase played around 5% of his mins at PG.

He's much more of a 2-guard imo...shades of Beal, McCollum, Norman Powell..

It's not really the point, Jase is my guess. The point is if the Celtics want to move up to #15 is Hauser and #28 enough?

Celts17Pride · Post #135 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:24 am

Fierce1 wrote:Really makes sense to trade the #2 pick if you already have Fox and Castle.

It makes sense if you don't want Harper to trade down to a team that does and move down to #4 or #5 and get more assets. Wemby is 21 years old and you have a unique opportunity to add a quality young guy to Wemby and Castle and have them grow together. Spurs will probably never sniff a Top 10 pick again for the next decade. I don't see the Spurs trading the #2 pick for any vet.

Fierce1 · Post #136 » by **Fierce1** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:31 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Really makes sense to trade the #2 pick if you already have Fox and Castle.

It makes sense if you don't want Harper to trade down to a team that does and move down to #4 or #5 and get more assets. Wemby is 21 years old and you have a unique opportunity to add a quality young guy to Wemby and Castle and have them grow together. Spurs will probably never sniff a Top 10 pick again for the next decade. I don't see the Spurs trading the #2 pick for any vet.

We'll see.

They traded for Fox, so that's a hint they want to take the next step.

A Fox extension will be proof of that.

Celts17Pride · Post #137 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:34 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Really makes sense to trade the #2 pick if you already have Fox and Castle.

It makes sense if you don't want Harper to trade down to a team that does and move down to #4 or #5 and get more assets. Wemby is 21 years old and you have a unique opportunity to add a quality young guy to Wemby and Castle and have them grow together. Spurs will probably never sniff a Top 10 pick again for the next decade. I don't see the Spurs trading the #2 pick for any vet.

We'll see.

They traded for Fox, so that's a hint they want to take the next step.

A Fox extension will be proof of that.

Fox could be traded this off-season if they don't want to give him an extension. The Spurs never rush anything

Post #138 » by **djFan71** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:44 am

Take 742. Gets below 2nd apron, but not tax.

Net in/out
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In: Rui, T Mann, J Carter, 45
Out: Jrue, KP, Hauser, Tillman, 32

Lineup
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Pritchard, White, Brown, Rui, Kornet
Carter, Scheierman, Mann, Walsh, Queta
JD, 28, tbd
* Tatum

That's 13 with Kornet at $6M, $5.8M left to sign 14.
If it's Horford, adjust with Luke. Or vet min, 45, 2-way call-up, etc. Or keep Tillman above.

Good starting 5 to top 7. Plenty of time for young guys to grow in the 8-13 spots. Probably play-in territory team, so the 2026 pick will be good.

If you really wanna duck the tax, Rui and Mann should be moveable for cheaper guys.

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ThePigeon · Post #139 » by **ThePigeon** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:53 am

Shams Charania knows something or just speculating?

"However, now are teams making big offers and calling about Jaylen Brown and Derrick White? One hundred percent."

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280735/Celtics-Focused-On-Holiday-Porzingis-Hauser-Trades-But-Will-Listen-On-Brown-White

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #140 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:03 am

If OKC loses to the Pacers, Stevens needs to engender a Trade War between OKC and the Spurs for either Brown or White. Play those two off of each other as they both seek dominance within their divisions. I know White is a personal favorite among many, but if one of those clubs offers three Firsts and a good young player for him, I want to wish him well on his new team...