Around the NBA Thread 2016-17

[galipeautim]

Found this interesting:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16859143/nba-salary-cap-projection-2017-18-season-lower-expected

In a surprise turn, the NBA is pulling back on its salary-cap projection for the 2017-18 season, according to a league memo obtained by ESPN, and it could complicate the Golden State Warriors' efforts to keep their new super team together.

This will affect teams' planning for 2017 free agency -- specifically the Warriors. Kevin Durant is signing a contract Thursday that will allow him to re-enter the market as a free agent next summer. Because the Warriors will not have his full rights at that time, they will have to create $33.5 million in cap space if Durant wants a new max contract.

Stephen Curry and Andre Iguodala are also scheduled to be free agents next summer. The Warriors retain both players' full rights, but it will be a challenge to re-sign them while also leaving room for Durant. That challenge was just projected to be $5 million more difficult.

What the league needs to do is change the structure for cap holds for the top players. Every one of their own guys will have minuscule cap holds relative to their final salary. If they make GS account for what they are going to spend by creating a more realistic cap hold framework, that will make the biggest impact without significantly changing the rules.

Only reason they would be able to keep Iguodala next year is because Curry's cap hold is ~18M for what will eventually be a ~$30M contract. Make them account for his max salary as a cap hold (MVPs usually command max deals) and the space for Andre vanishes unless he'll play for the minimum.

I don't think the cap holds come into play here. The Warriors won't have KD's rights and any amount of money they pay to re-sign Curry and Iggy will reduce the amount they can pay KD. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that is the case.

Also, let's not forget to mention any reduction in salary cap helps the Celts. We were far more prudent than almost every other team and every reduction in cap will make it proportionally more difficult for other teams to construct their roster as compared to us.

[165bows]

Found this interesting:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16859143/nba-salary-cap-projection-2017-18-season-lower-expected

In a surprise turn, the NBA is pulling back on its salary-cap projection for the 2017-18 season, according to a league memo obtained by ESPN, and it could complicate the Golden State Warriors' efforts to keep their new super team together.

This will affect teams' planning for 2017 free agency -- specifically the Warriors. Kevin Durant is signing a contract Thursday that will allow him to re-enter the market as a free agent next summer. Because the Warriors will not have his full rights at that time, they will have to create $33.5 million in cap space if Durant wants a new max contract.

Stephen Curry and Andre Iguodala are also scheduled to be free agents next summer. The Warriors retain both players' full rights, but it will be a challenge to re-sign them while also leaving room for Durant. That challenge was just projected to be $5 million more difficult.

What the league needs to do is change the structure for cap holds for the top players. Every one of their own guys will have minuscule cap holds relative to their final salary. If they make GS account for what they are going to spend by creating a more realistic cap hold framework, that will make the biggest impact without significantly changing the rules.

Only reason they would be able to keep Iguodala next year is because Curry's cap hold is ~18M for what will eventually be a ~$30M contract. Make them account for his max salary as a cap hold (MVPs usually command max deals) and the space for Andre vanishes unless he'll play for the minimum.

I don't think the cap holds come into play here. The Warriors won't have KD's rights and any amount of money they pay to re-sign Curry and Iggy will reduce the amount they can pay KD. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that is the case.

Also, let's not forget to mention any reduction in salary cap helps the Celts. We were far more prudent than almost every other team and every reduction in cap will make it proportionally more difficult for other teams to construct their roster as compared to us.

Right that's exactly it. Curry/Iguodala have cap holds that take salary cap space, and they need a certain amount of space for Durant. If there isn't enough space for all of them, someone has to go. In this case, no one is keeping Iguodala (also a FA next summer) over Durant, so higher (more realistic) cap holds for Curry means AI would be left out.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Will the warriors have KD's Bird rights of he doesn't opt out?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Will the warriors have KD's Bird rights of he doesn't opt out?

Nope. You need to play with the same team for at least 2 years before Early Bird rights kick in.

[Roddy]

What a great guy...

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/07/07/warriors-kevin-durant-kd-sneakers-shoes-nike-increased-price

[Slartibartfast]

Iggy's well into his decline. I don't think him sticking on at the minimum or room exception is far fetched.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Iggy's well into his decline. I don't think him sticking on at the minimum or room exception is far fetched.

I agree with this. While the cap is going down and it may be tough to sign their big 4 they will get it done. On top of that there will be no shortage of ring chasers that will play there for free.

[GreenBloodedC]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/751224157711597568[/tweet]

Good price for a solid C.

[DK-All Day]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/751224157711597568[/tweet]

Good price for a solid C.

Wow that's cheap. Give are getting paid. Surprised that's all he could get.

[bs_and_cs]

Absolutely hate that we weren't in on that Ezeli contract.

[Berkcelt]

Ezeli was awful in the Finals, probably cost himself a lot of dough. Still not sure why Kerr put him back in, in the 4th quarter of game seven.

[OFWGKTA]

I gotta say, seeing that Ezeli deal gives me a strong feeling that Ainge is up to something, and believes he's gonna get whatever it is done. If Ainge was done or thought he might not get a deal done, I don't see any way he doesn't give Ezeli that same contract, but with a couple mil more per year.

[Green89]

Free agents have all dried up. Danny's going trade route now.

[TheOGJabroni]

I gotta say, seeing that Ezeli deal gives me a strong feeling that Ainge is up to something, and believes he's gonna get whatever it is done. If Ainge was done or thought he might not get a deal done, I don't see any way he doesn't give Ezeli that same contract, but with a couple mil more per year.

I'm glad you said this because I didn't think of it that way. I was wondering why he wouldn't have offered him the same amount of money but for just one year even. This could very well be why.

[djFan71]

Any news on Mirza? He's a UFA right? I know he's been brought up before, but if we make some other consolidation move and free up a roster spot or 2, he could be a good pickup. Esp. if KO or Jerebko are outgoing.

[ConstableGeneva]

Any news on Mirza? He's a UFA right? I know he's been brought up before, but if we make some other consolidation move and free up a roster spot or 2, he could be a good pickup. Esp. if KO or Jerebko are outgoing.

Signed with Bucks on the 1st day of FA. Good deal too.

[djFan71]

Any news on Mirza? He's a UFA right? I know he's been brought up before, but if we make some other consolidation move and free up a roster spot or 2, he could be a good pickup. Esp. if KO or Jerebko are outgoing.

Signed with Bucks on the 1st day of FA. Good deal too.

Sonuva.... NBA.com FA tracker failed me! http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2016/
I must've been too caught up in Al\KD stuff and missed it. Thanks, though!

[15th overall]

Any news on Mirza? He's a UFA right? I know he's been brought up before, but if we make some other consolidation move and free up a roster spot or 2, he could be a good pickup. Esp. if KO or Jerebko are outgoing.

Signed with Bucks on the 1st day of FA. Good deal too.

Sonuva.... NBA.com FA tracker failed me! http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2016/
I must've been too caught up in Al\KD stuff and missed it. Thanks, though!

An alternative FA tracker to check out.

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ailene_voisin/status/751685730238230528[/tweet]

[165bows]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ailene_voisin/status/751685730238230528[/tweet]

I believe it's against league rules to formally demand a trade, so pretty sure this distinction is just CYA.

Edit - I guess I'd take him for spare change for one year, but don't like that player option the yew after. PS if they trade for him that is salary that can't go back to SAC in any trades the rest of the year.