Trade Thread #7: The Tide is Turning, but still Myles to go

MagicBagley18 · Post #1201 » by **MagicBagley18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:07 pm

It’s me I’m one half of the roche brothers....shhhh

Patsfan1081 · Post #1202 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:07 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
sprash9802 wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:At the risk of sounding like a broken record, cause I say this a lot:

Sure, if all our opponents get the most favorable outcomes, and none of our youths take a step, then obviously we lose ground. But it rarely works like that in reality. Not every rival team will maximize their potential, while we completely fail to do so. These things fall on bell curves. Some teams will improve and some will regress.

I wouldn't be surprised to see us beat or lose to any of these team this season.

When did I ever say some of our players won't improve? You cannot deny there is a gulf between the top teams in the conference, and the Celtics. I mean, is that even debatable?

we lost to the 5th seed heat in the ECF because we couldn't bust a zone. we made it farther than the sixers, bucks, toronto. and we're improving. our best player has only been a superstar for half a season.

so yeah, that's debatable. more than that, it's just plain wrong.

I don’t think anyone is debating wether the young guys will improve or not, they just can’t do it alone and Ainge hasn’t done anything but draft players to try to fill the rotation. Milly has improved, Brooklyn is much improved. We saw Philly without Simmons. They’re also doing what Ainge should be, a dressing needs like shooting. People are mad because Hayward walked out the door and this team took a step back when you expected them to take a step forward.

Afam · Post #1203 » by **Afam** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

Read on Twitter

themoneyteam2 · Post #1204 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
We are not replacing hayward and that's the point.

This team is in big **** trouble.
We already replaced him with two wings drafted in the lotto last two years

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We've reached max level homerism here boys.

Langford and some rookie who hasn't played ball in 9 months gonna replace hayward.

Not replacing his production but they drafted two wings to replace him on the roster.

But i'm sure you understood that. Just wouldn't fit your god awful narrative

Post #1205 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
Afam wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hahaha wow. At this point I'm not surprised. Just tank. Team as constructed is a 5th seed at best.

Tank with Tatum smart and brown on the team. Lololol. I suppose you also think Knicks and hornets will be better than us......

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The Corey's · Post #1206 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

canman1971 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
canman1971 wrote:It's called being a realist and a grown up. It was Hayward's decision bottom line.

You're being very dismissive toward the fact that it never should of been haywards decision and that is the point.

How so? He had a player option. He opted out. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's not that simple. Horford pulled this blind over danny's eyes last year and the fact that he allowed it to get to this point again is on him.

Arguing over wether hayward deserves the extra 20 mil or not isn't really a thing. Wyc is cheap as **** is what we're learning.

BigTrade92 · Post #1207 » by **BigTrade92** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

Lmao 35 year old Millsap....yeah that’ll really help ease the sting...

CelticFaninLBC · Post #1208 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 pm

Ainge struck out on Kyrie and getting AD. Now Hayward leaves for nothing. If Ainge didn't want Myles Turner, cool, but he could have flipped Turner to another team for assets.

This team is not winning a title with Tatum, Brown and Kemba...

MagicBagley18 · Post #1209 » by **MagicBagley18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:09 pm

3 years away from being 3 years away

themoneyteam2 · Post #1210 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:09 pm

If Hayward was willing to take Indy's offer but Ainge didn't want what was coming back, then we have some things to talk about and Ainge should get hammered.

If Hayward wasn't willing to take Indy's offer and instead wanted the bag from the Hornets, then Ainge is handcuffed, unless you wanted Ainge to pay him that albatross contract?

The Corey's · Post #1211 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:09 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:We already replaced him with two wings drafted in the lotto last two years

Sent from my moto g(7) using RealGM mobile app

We've reached max level homerism here boys.

Langford and some rookie who hasn't played ball in 9 months gonna replace hayward.

Not replacing his production but they drafted two wings to replace him on the roster.

But i'm sure you understood that. Just wouldn't fit your god awful narrative

Celtics better today or we'd night?

I bet that dont fit in your god awful narrative

Post #1212 » by **canman1971** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 pm

The Corey's wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
You're being very dismissive toward the fact that it never should of been haywards decision and that is the point.

How so? He had a player option. He opted out. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's not that simple. Horford pulled this blind over danny's eyes last year and the fact that he allowed it to get to this point again is on him.

Arguing over wether hayward deserves the extra 20 mil or not isn't really a thing. Wyc is cheap as **** is what we're learning.

How is Wyc cheap? The Cs have paid players, sometimes to a fault, for years. Hence giving millions to Hayward. Talk about irony.

SMTBSI · Post #1213 » by **SMTBSI** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 pm

sprash9802 wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:
sprash9802 wrote:
When did I ever say some of our players won't improve? You cannot deny there is a gulf between the top teams in the conference, and the Celtics. I mean, is that even debatable?

Yes, I deny there is a "gulf" between us and the likes of Philly. We just swept them without Gordo. We can even regress some and they can improve some and still have there not be a "gulf".

Kemba / Brown / Tatum puts a relatively high floor on us. We're not going to just be flat non-competitive this year.

Never said we are not gonna be competitive.... Just not good enough to win more than a round, as things stand at the moment. Our floor is high, our ceiling is not as high as the others. We beat Philly without Simmons... think it's a sweep with him?? I don't think so. We struggled to get past Toronto...so let's not act as if we were dynamite in the playoffs. We were good, but nowhere near dominant.

Of course it's not still a sweep. It doesn't need to be.

I'm not exactly pretending we're a shoe-in for the finals or anything. I can see everything from a first round exit to another ECF run.

But I do absolutely reject that there's a "gulf" between us and the likes of Philly or Toronto.

VeryMuchWoke · Post #1214 » by **VeryMuchWoke** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 pm

Oh, so we're getting not even a TPE? Jesus.

themoneyteam2 · Post #1215 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 pm

The Corey's wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
You're being very dismissive toward the fact that it never should of been haywards decision and that is the point.

How so? He had a player option. He opted out. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's not that simple. Horford pulled this blind over danny's eyes last year and the fact that he allowed it to get to this point again is on him.

Arguing over wether hayward deserves the extra 20 mil or not isn't really a thing. Wyc is cheap as **** is what we're learning.

Wait you think the Celtics should have given Hayward a 4 yr/120 mil deal?

Lol oh boy.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1216 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 pm

canman1971 wrote:
Tyakack wrote:
canman1971 wrote:Some of the comments on here are mind blowing. You'd think the Celtics just lost Bird in his prime for nothing. And I'm quite surprised nobody on this board hasn't become an actual GM of an NBA team with all their wonderful insight and ideas. I wonder why that is?

It's mind blowing to you that people are upset we lost hayward for nothing? It's kind of mind blowing to me that you find that mind blowing...tbh.

It's called being a realist and a grown up. It was Hayward's decision bottom line.

So during the season you believed Hayward would just walk and Ainge wouldn’t get anything? At the very least you would think Ainge had a backup plan if he did so. A lot of people aren’t mad that Hayward walked, it’s the roster as a whole people are frustrated with.

Post #1217 » by **Feed Your Head** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:11 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:3 years away from being 3 years away

Cave is right, dumping Kemba next offseason is this teams best chance. You need a better second fiddle to Tatum than Jaylen, and that’s the path.

People will want to play with JT. Like embiid.

La Flame · Post #1218 » by **La Flame** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:11 pm

So, about Harden...

The Corey's · Post #1219 » by **The Corey's** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:11 pm

canman1971 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
canman1971 wrote:How so? He had a player option. He opted out. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's not that simple. Horford pulled this blind over danny's eyes last year and the fact that he allowed it to get to this point again is on him.

Arguing over wether hayward deserves the extra 20 mil or not isn't really a thing. Wyc is cheap as **** is what we're learning.

How is Wyc cheap? The Cs have paid players, sometimes to a fault, for years. Hence giving millions to Hayward. Talk about irony.

Because clearly this is a tax repeater issue for them and in the middle of a pandemic with no incoming coming from fans he wasn't gonna give hayward that contract.

That's not even the issue I have. The issue I have is that it came to this in the first place.

themoneyteam2 · Post #1220 » by **themoneyteam2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:11 pm

The Corey's wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
We've reached max level homerism here boys.

Langford and some rookie who hasn't played ball in 9 months gonna replace hayward.

Not replacing his production but they drafted two wings to replace him on the roster.

But i'm sure you understood that. Just wouldn't fit your god awful narrative

Celtics better today or we'd night?

I bet that dont fit in your god awful narrative

Need to move the goalposts? Good one champ!

Simply explained what he meant by saying we drafted Romeo and Nesmith to replace Hayward.