All things Draft Pick. #3

[GregB]

Bradley and Crowder or Bradley, Smart and Rozier would have to be outgoing if we don't trade #3. But Bradley and #3 should get us to George.

[Fencer reregistered]

Do people even understand that trading for George and siging max FA would make our next off-season complete nightmare? How many extension it is? Our payroll would be ridiculous, sustainable maybe for one season.

People don't agree. Assuming Bradley is gone, we'd have 4 max salary guys. A lot of us think the Celtics are prepared to pay 4 max salaries.

[CelticsLV]

Just earlier today, I did. Someone tweeted the possible tax implications. That's why I'm interested to know what "the other shoe to drop" is and why we had to do the Philly trade this early. What's the plan? 'Cos Bulpett among others have hinted on a trade for a vet. And all season, we've been conditioned to expect a huge FA signing.

Can you pls repost them? Want to see.

There was no actual math/exact figures. Will post later. On mobile. Just imagine paying all of IT, George, Hayward, Horford post-cap jump. Insane tax bill.

Thomas: $30m+
George: $30m+
Hayward: $30m
Horford: $28m
Smart: $10m+
Brown: $5m
#3: $6m

Add all the small salaries like Zizič and you have $150m+ just for salaries Add lux tax and you have close to $200m? And it gets worse the season after. Big "**** no!!" from Wyc.

[ajones9219]

Do people even understand that trading for George and siging max FA would make our next off-season complete nightmare? How many extension it is? Our payroll would be ridiculous, sustainable maybe for one season.

People don't agree. Assuming Bradley is gone, we'd have 4 max salary guys. A lot of us think the Celtics are prepared to pay 4 max salaries.

Yep. This is what I've been saying for several days. Ownership has indicated they will spend whatever it takes to field a winner

[Ben-N1ce]

Add talent anyway they can since they just the away the first pick. Let's face it. Nobody **** with GS any time soon barring injury.

[ajones9219]

Can you pls repost them? Want to see.

There was no actual math/exact figures. Will post later. On mobile. Just imagine paying all of IT, George, Hayward, Horford post-cap jump. Insane tax bill.

Thomas: $30m+
George: $30m+
Hayward: $30m
Horford: $28m
Smart: $10m+
Brown: $5m
#3: $6m

Add all the small salaries like Zizič and you have $150m+ just for salaries Add lux tax and you have close to $200m? And it gets worse the season after. Big "**** no!!" from Wyc.

Hayward/George/IT won't be making 30 +. I in fact think Thomas would be closer to 20 if you give him a good team.

[jfs1000d]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7y3cpfw

Add the LAL/SAC pick.

CAn somebody do the math with the spreadsheet showing moves to clear space for max FA etc?

It's gonna take more than that to get AD. NO will want a god father offer and AD is worth it.

I give them The Godfather offer.


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[robbie84]

Do people even understand that trading for George and siging max FA would make our next off-season complete nightmare? How many extension it is? Our payroll would be ridiculous, sustainable maybe for one season.

Not if we trade for 1 and sign 1 as FA.
We can sign FA and then extend IT over the cap. Then extend PG or Butler when cap total rises.

[ConstableGeneva]

Thats not possible financially. We need to have about 15 mil in salary going out to acquire George after signing a Max FA. This is already assuming we have waived every FA or PO including Kelly Olynyk.

Zeller (1 year only) + Crowder (Value) + Mickey or Jackson (Rookie deals). Done. The pick is their prize.

We have to waive Zeller and Mickey to create cap room to first sign a FA. Not possible.

Yep it would have to be a post-FA-signing trade.

Something like Bradley + Rozier + #3 (signed) for PG, 30 days after rookie is signed.

IT / Smart
Brown / Nader
Hayward / Crowder
George / vet
Horford / Zizic

[Jingles]

If you get George and Hayward there's literally no reason to extend Thomas. You can let Smart run point with the scoring/shooting those lineups would have.

[reload141]

Can you pls repost them? Want to see.

There was no actual math/exact figures. Will post later. On mobile. Just imagine paying all of IT, George, Hayward, Horford post-cap jump. Insane tax bill.

Thomas: $30m+
George: $30m+
Hayward: $30m
Horford: $28m
Smart: $10m+
Brown: $5m
#3: $6m

Add all the small salaries like Zizič and you have $150m+ just for salaries Add lux tax and you have close to $200m? And it gets worse the season after. Big "**** no!!" from Wyc.

Yup, no way is IT on 30+ more like 20.

[Fencer reregistered]

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Okay, this way, there's no risk for Boston even if PG leaves for the Lakers. I like it lol.

That would be awesomeness.

Why would the Knicks do that? Dealing their best asset and a true stud for a PG-13 rental and a pick?????

I have no idea why the Knicks would do that.

[Celts17Pride]

Bradley and Crowder or Bradley, Smart and Rozier would have to be outgoing if we don't trade #3. But Bradley and #3 should get us to George.

Why give up that for 1 year of Paul George when you can get Gordon Hayward for nothing?

[ViperGTS]

If you get George and Hayward there's literally no reason to extend Thomas. You can let Smart run point with the scoring/shooting those lineups would have.

Yup. I love Isiah. But not at max, and in some situations..in the playoffs..coming off the bench. This is why the guard thing is perplexing. Ainge couldn't help himself drafting guards then when the top prospect in the draft is a guard...he punts.

Makes no sense and IT is so limited in many ways that he can't be the one to assuage any doubts about the position.

[TheOGJabroni]

If we're going after AD, why break the #1 into two pieces? Wouldn't the top pick be more attractive to the Pelicans??

IMO if we trade this 3rd pick and the 2018 Nets' pick they get a better chance at rebuilding, they'll have a top 3 pick thursday and probably a top 1 and a top 6 next year, thats a great fresh start for building around Cousins, considering that they're not a bad front office as Sacramento's and their player development staff is not that bad either. It is a great shot for them, considering that Davis and Cousins probably won't work well together.

I don't necessarily believe this to be the case, but am I the only person who has thought of the possibility the Pelicans got Cousins (on a bargain when you consider talent alone) knowing that they weren't going anywhere and were deadest on selling AD for a king's ransom?

Most teams wait too long to trade their stars and don't maximize their trade value. Is there any way they are, in a way, thinking ahead to that inevitability?

Obviously Davis > Cousins but if New Orleans was able to build on an elite center and received Jaylen Brown, all the prime picks coming in the next few years, etc., maybe it's worth it if they know Davis will leave one day.

[3D Chess]

Thats not possible financially. We need to have about 15 mil in salary going out to acquire George after signing a Max FA. This is already assuming we have waived every FA or PO including Kelly Olynyk.

Zeller (1 year only) + Crowder (Value) + Mickey or Jackson (Rookie deals). Done. The pick is their prize.

We have to renounce our rights to Zeller and Mickey to be able to afford the max FA to begin with though.

S&T a possibility? Does Bradley + Crowder + Jackson work?

[OFWGKTA]

Bradley and Crowder or Bradley, Smart and Rozier would have to be outgoing if we don't trade #3. But Bradley and #3 should get us to George.

Why give up that for 1 year of Paul George when you can get Gordon Hayward for nothing?

You get both

[Captain_Caveman]

Can you pls repost them? Want to see.

There was no actual math/exact figures. Will post later. On mobile. Just imagine paying all of IT, George, Hayward, Horford post-cap jump. Insane tax bill.

Thomas: $30m+
George: $30m+
Hayward: $30m
Horford: $28m
Smart: $10m+
Brown: $5m
#3: $6m

Add all the small salaries like Zizič and you have $150m+ just for salaries Add lux tax and you have close to $200m? And it gets worse the season after. Big "**** no!!" from Wyc.

Butler and Crowder have nice contracts in this context.

Cap should jump enough by 2019 and 2020 to make it less painful after that.

[gocelts]

Just checking in to see if anyone heard that this is all a late April fools joke and that we didn't make this trade...

[CelticsLV]

There was no actual math/exact figures. Will post later. On mobile. Just imagine paying all of IT, George, Hayward, Horford post-cap jump. Insane tax bill.

Thomas: $30m+
George: $30m+
Hayward: $30m
Horford: $28m
Smart: $10m+
Brown: $5m
#3: $6m

Add all the small salaries like Zizič and you have $150m+ just for salaries Add lux tax and you have close to $200m? And it gets worse the season after. Big "**** no!!" from Wyc.

Yup, no way is IT on 30+ more like 20.

Deng got almost $20m, Oladipo and Adams got over $20m. Crabb and Johnson got deals for almost $20m. Guys like Porter and KCP are about to get $20m deals.

IT for $20m? Wake up.