2019 NBA draft

Gomes3PC · Post #1221 » by **Gomes3PC** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:27 am

I think there's a fundamental athleticism / physicality issue with Jerome, but I have been wrong in the past with these kind of guys. I keep hearing Satoransky comps but Tomas is a lot better functional athlete.

I really like Marques Bolden as a project. He was a defensive monster for Duke and their D kind of collapsed when he got hurt. Could be a 20 MPG defensive rotation guy.

The more I've thought about it the more I like Cam Johnson with our own pick. Good size for a SG, true knockdown shooter, very good on-ball defender. He's a guy who knows who he is. Honestly a lot of Danny Green in terms of size, shooting, defense, and generally smart basketball decision-making.

Curmudgeon · Post #1222 » by **Curmudgeon** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:34 am

Everyone has a binky. The fact is that after the first two picks you could put the names into a hat.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1223 » by **Patsfan1081** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:52 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Oden was on the way to being a dominant defensive player - and he wouldn’t even fit in today’s league, he’d be Charles Bassey..

Maybe a job for Robert Swift is possible

Bassey is a lot more athletic, and has a jumper. His game fits fine in today's style. I don't see Oden having any issues in today's game either, it's offensive big men that don't stretch the floor that don't fit in today's game.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1224 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:12 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Oden was on the way to being a dominant defensive player - and he wouldn’t even fit in today’s league, he’d be Charles Bassey..

Maybe a job for Robert Swift is possible

Bassey is a lot more athletic, and has a jumper. His game fits fine in today's style. I don't see Oden having any issues in today's game either, it's offensive big men that don't stretch the floor that don't fit in today's game.

Oden at worst would go the way of Roy Hibbert, who went from dominant “rim protector” to slow-footed nobody.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1225 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:18 am

Nbadraft.net has a new mock up where we take Rui Hachimura at 14.. They have Fernando going 9 to Washington and Kabengele to Atlanta at 10..

cloverleaf · Post #1226 » by **cloverleaf** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:19 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Oden was on the way to being a dominant defensive player - and he wouldn’t even fit in today’s league, he’d be Charles Bassey..

Maybe a job for Robert Swift is possible

Bassey is a lot more athletic, and has a jumper. His game fits fine in today's style. I don't see Oden having any issues in today's game either, it's offensive big men that don't stretch the floor that don't fit in today's game.

I agree, I was sorry to see Bassey returning and I project him to have a decent NBA career.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1227 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:20 am

I could see Deandre Hunter sliding to Atlanta, or even lower..

cloverleaf · Post #1228 » by **cloverleaf** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:21 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Nbadraft.net has a new mock up where we take Rui Hachimura at 14.. They have Fernando going 9 to Washington and Kabengele to Atlanta at 10..

That's because he has KO's seal of approval: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-rui-hachimura-20190603-74qei5taefawdkd52d4rtynwqq-story.html

Mock drafts have never been a strength of nbadraft.net, but I find him intriguing.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1229 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:28 am

Langford played all but the first six games of the season with a torn ligament in his shooting hand?

Post #1230 » by **sully00** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:19 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:I could see Deandre Hunter sliding to Atlanta, or even lower..

That isn't really sliding without trades if 3 pgs are going to go in the top 6 then he is likely to go 7 or 8. I think the Lakers would be nuts to pass on him to take a PG never mind one who missed most of the season with an injury.

I think so much of this is going to be shaped by trades. I think that LAL and PHX are going to make a trade that either sends Ball to PHX or allows PHX to move up to 4 and grab their choice of Garland and White. I think Reddish and Hunter are much better NBA prospects than both players but you need what you need I guess. The Lakers should take Hunter who would compliment James very well but may take Reddish if they feel that NOLA would value him more in a Davis trade.

winsomme2 · Post #1231 » by **winsomme2** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:36 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Nbadraft.net has a new mock up where we take Rui Hachimura at 14.. They have Fernando going 9 to Washington and Kabengele to Atlanta at 10..

I'd bet Kabengele jumping up the draft is directly related to Pascal Siakam's success.

If you look at their draft profile, it probably looks identical. Under the radar PF. Long. Athletic. Hard working. Hits FTs. Potential as 3P shooter at the next level. solid D and rim protection.

oldshoolballer · Post #1232 » by **oldshoolballer** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:45 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Nbadraft.net has a new mock up where we take Rui Hachimura at 14.. They have Fernando going 9 to Washington and Kabengele to Atlanta at 10..

That's because he has KO's seal of approval: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-miami-heat-rui-hachimura-20190603-74qei5taefawdkd52d4rtynwqq-story.html

Mock drafts have never been a strength of nbadraft.net, but I find him intriguing.

Rui would fit in the Stevens system well He will be a better pro than half the picks in the top 10 imo.I see a lot of busts in this years draft.

ddb · Post #1233 » by **ddb** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:56 pm

If Celts end up keeping all 3 picks which is unlikely, I'd like to see DA roll the dice at #14 and draft for upside, then draft for high character "safe" picks at 20 & 22.

Example: Sekou, Bol, Langford, Little, etc. Someone like that at #14.
Then at 20/22 go for guys like Ty Jerome, Admiral, Lu Dort, Rui etc. Guys that were really good in college and project to at the very least be solid role players.

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taj2133 · Post #1234 » by **taj2133** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:57 pm

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winsomme2 · Post #1235 » by **winsomme2** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 3:02 pm

ddb wrote:If Celts end up keeping all 3 picks which is unlikely, I'd like to see DA roll the dice at #14 and draft for upside, then draft for high character "safe" picks at 20 & 22.

Example: Sekou, Bol, Langford, Little, etc. Someone like that at #14.
Then at 20/22 go for guys like Ty Jerome, Admiral, Lu Dort, Rui etc. Guys that were really good in college and project to at the very least be solid role players.

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I think Bol is the only one of that group that will be there at #14 and not sure he is worth that gamble. I wouldn't have an issue with taking any of the others mentioned at 14, tho.

I still like a combo of Herro, Fernando, and Cam Johnson. I think all three of these guys have upside but will also contribute right away.

ddb · Post #1236 » by **ddb** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 3:07 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
ddb wrote:If Celts end up keeping all 3 picks which is unlikely, I'd like to see DA roll the dice at #14 and draft for upside, then draft for high character "safe" picks at 20 & 22.

Example: Sekou, Bol, Langford, Little, etc. Someone like that at #14.
Then at 20/22 go for guys like Ty Jerome, Admiral, Lu Dort, Rui etc. Guys that were really good in college and project to at the very least be solid role players.

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I think Bol is the only one of that group that will be there at #14 and not sure he is worth that gamble. I wouldn't have an issue with taking any of the others mentioned at 14, tho.

I still like a combo of Herro, Fernando, and Cam Johnson. I think all three of these guys have upside but will also contribute right away.

I'm down for your 3

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bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #1237 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 8:17 pm

You know who's dropping in the Draft supposedly? Jaxson Hayes apparently, teams are shying away from 4s and 5s who don't stretch the defense.

Curmudgeon · Post #1238 » by **Curmudgeon** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 8:23 pm

Meh. As I've said before, #3 through #30 are basically the same on paper. Throw the names into a hat and pick. If some guy has a great workout, sure, take him. Or take height if you need height, shooting if you need shooting, defense if you need defense. Alas, the tall guys have injury question marks (e.g. Bol), the shooters may not be good defenders (e.g. Windler), and the defenders may not be good shooters (e.g. Thybulle, Little). And then you have the jack of all trades, master of none types (e.g. Reddish, Hachimura, Alexander-Walker) and the high ceiling projects (e.g. Doumbouya). Whatever you taste is, there's a player for you, but no course of action stands out.

The choices at #51 are less talented but more interesting.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1239 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 8:45 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Nbadraft.net has a new mock up where we take Rui Hachimura at 14.. They have Fernando going 9 to Washington and Kabengele to Atlanta at 10..

I'd bet Kabengele jumping up the draft is directly related to Pascal Siakam's success.

If you look at their draft profile, it probably looks identical. Under the radar PF. Long. Athletic. Hard working. Hits FTs. Potential as 3P shooter at the next level. solid D and rim protection.

Not sure- Siakam is much more mobile - if Kabengele is going up, which may not be happening in any reality outside nbadraft.net mocks, it’s probably because of workouts, too - showing more skill than he was allowed to use in college, a skill growth spurt since his season ended, good news about his knees, or more potential as a rotating defender.. The last two would make the most difference imo - there are only rumors about him having bad knees because he played with braces - if there’s no big issue there and his agility is better than it looked, I’d be ok with him at 14 - would put him with Rui as best case picks at 14 and 20, unless Hunter slides to 14..

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1240 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Jun 4, 2019 8:46 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:You know who's dropping in the Draft supposedly? Jaxson Hayes apparently, teams are shying away from 4s and 5s who don't stretch the defense.

Interesting - I thought he was supposed to be kind of a shooter