Trade Ideas Thread

[djFan71]

I have always liked Nance Jr.. has enough size shotblocking to pay cenetr or PF, with a pretty good 3. But doesn't he make around 10 millions?

$11.7M next year, declining. Grant/Kanter/Poirier gets you there salary. Send Kanter to POR tpe. Grant, 26 to CLE? I don't know value wise if he's worth Grant/26 or more/less???? CLE saves money here, so I doubt you have to pay a premium to dump Poirier like you normally would.

I like Nance > Grant, but I see no way Ainge Stevens does...especially with 26.. IMO.

Oh, not a real proposal, just throwing stuff out to gauge Nance value. I don’t think CLE gives him up for what we’d want to pay.

[Dannyboy36]

When we win we seem a piece or two away . When we lose we seem like we won’t quite be good enough to take down a front runner.
I love Kemba and he’s necessary if we have any chance now but I do wonder with Smart’s improved play and importance to the team, Hayward’s facilitating, and our desire for both Tatum and Jaylen to grow in those areas of their game, if Kemba isn’t the bet to consider trading more than Hayward. Teams have really schemed well against him despite his talent.

[dlamb8888888]

I'm guessing this might have been posted here already, but I would be in favor of a deal centered around Hayward for Myles Turner and Jeremy Lamb. I would also like to see them consolidate their picks to move up. Detroit might be a good trade partner. Honestly, not sure who to take there, but they can't have 3 draft picks again this year when the don't even have the PT to go around to develop the picks they used last year. Maybe Haliburton at 7? Myles Turner checks off so many boxes this team needs, and Indiana has a logjam in the front court.

[Darthlukey]

I'm guessing this might have been posted here already, but I would be in favor of a deal centered around Hayward for Myles Turner and Jeremy Lamb. I would also like to see them consolidate their picks to move up. Detroit might be a good trade partner. Honestly, not sure who to take there, but they can't have 3 draft picks again this year when the don't even have the PT to go around to develop the picks they used last year. Maybe Haliburton at 7? Myles Turner checks off so many boxes this team needs, and Indiana has a logjam in the front court.

Honestly, I really love the hayward for turner and lamb based idea. I just dont see the pacers going for it. I mean, we can always sweeten it with a 1st, but long term that move would really hurt the pacers. I know turner is limited and he doesn't fit with sabonis, but he is still a young 3pt shooting shot blocker

[playa-hater]

I'm guessing this might have been posted here already, but I would be in favor of a deal centered around Hayward for Myles Turner and Jeremy Lamb. I would also like to see them consolidate their picks to move up. Detroit might be a good trade partner. Honestly, not sure who to take there, but they can't have 3 draft picks again this year when the don't even have the PT to go around to develop the picks they used last year. Maybe Haliburton at 7? Myles Turner checks off so many boxes this team needs, and Indiana has a logjam in the front court.

Honestly, I really love the hayward for turner and lamb based idea. I just dont see the pacers going for it. I mean, we can always sweeten it with a 1st, but long term that move would really hurt the pacers. I know turner is limited and he doesn't fit with sabonis, but he is still a young 3pt shooting shot blocker

easy answer I think..throw in their choice of R Williams (who I like) or hometown Romeo Langford with Hayward. Neither RW or RL seems to have much of Steven's confidence anyway..

[Parliament10]

I'm guessing this might have been posted here already, but I would be in favor of a deal centered around Hayward for Myles Turner and Jeremy Lamb. I would also like to see them consolidate their picks to move up. Detroit might be a good trade partner. Honestly, not sure who to take there, but they can't have 3 draft picks again this year when the don't even have the PT to go around to develop the picks they used last year. Maybe Haliburton at 7? Myles Turner checks off so many boxes this team needs, and Indiana has a logjam in the front court.

Honestly, I really love the hayward for turner and lamb based idea. I just dont see the pacers going for it. I mean, we can always sweeten it with a 1st, but long term that move would really hurt the pacers. I know turner is limited and he doesn't fit with sabonis, but he is still a young 3pt shooting shot blocker

I still like the idea, too. ---> Hayward = Turner & Lamb.
Turner can also play PF. Not sure what we do with Lamb. Probably another Trade?

Depending upon the Luxury Tax, it may be better to just go Hayward = Turner.
And take a $16M TPE. That would work out great for us.

[Darthlukey]

I'm guessing this might have been posted here already, but I would be in favor of a deal centered around Hayward for Myles Turner and Jeremy Lamb. I would also like to see them consolidate their picks to move up. Detroit might be a good trade partner. Honestly, not sure who to take there, but they can't have 3 draft picks again this year when the don't even have the PT to go around to develop the picks they used last year. Maybe Haliburton at 7? Myles Turner checks off so many boxes this team needs, and Indiana has a logjam in the front court.

Honestly, I really love the hayward for turner and lamb based idea. I just dont see the pacers going for it. I mean, we can always sweeten it with a 1st, but long term that move would really hurt the pacers. I know turner is limited and he doesn't fit with sabonis, but he is still a young 3pt shooting shot blocker

I still like the idea, too. ---> Hayward = Turner & Lamb.
Turner can also play PF. Not sure what we do with Lamb. Probably another Trade?

Depending upon the Luxury Tax, it may be better to just go Hayward = Turner.
And take a $16M TPE. That would work out great for us.

Can the pacers absorb the extra salary?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Hayward isn't opting out of $34 million, they aren't trading Kemba and Rob Williams and the rookies aren't getting them much.

Gotta consider trading either Smart or Brown...

I mean we know none of these things except for yes Hayward is opting in.

But that's a 34 million dollar expiring contract on a good depth piece for a team that is either in red alert or has a smaller championships window.

And the 76ers may be on Red alert

Red alert blow it up teams:
OKC
(potentially 76ers)
Clippers

3 year championship window teams
Warriors
Lakers

Any of those teams may be interested in Hayward.

Hell it's not GREAT but would we be devastated if we traded Hayward and a late first for Steven Adams on draft night?

Steven Adams isn't great but he's 27 and will be around for the next 5 years and is just a bigger Theis.

76ers could use Hayward and I would love to flip him for Tobias Harris. Again young guy not that far off but will be here for the long haul.

If the Warriors strike out in talks, they may think to themselves they'd have an easier time trading Hayward and the #2 pick instead of Wiggings (still can't confirm this 100% but from what I found last Hayward can opt in right before draft day) and we could get Wiggins in a 3 way trade. Again... mid twenties, here for the long haul.

Who **** knows what the Clips could offer and I can't imagine the Lakers have anything we want. But Hayward is tradeable.

Only plausible Hayward trade seems to be for Myles Turner. Can't see Ainge trading Hayward for Adams, Wiggins or Harris, and LAC and LAL have nothing to deal for Hayward.

If the 2nd pick is available, then maybe Boston can get it for Smart. Cannot see GSW trading the #2 for Hayward.

[bisme37]

Wrong thread oops.

[celticfan42487]

Hayward isn't opting out of $34 million, they aren't trading Kemba and Rob Williams and the rookies aren't getting them much.

Gotta consider trading either Smart or Brown...

I mean we know none of these things except for yes Hayward is opting in.

But that's a 34 million dollar expiring contract on a good depth piece for a team that is either in red alert or has a smaller championships window.

And the 76ers may be on Red alert

Red alert blow it up teams:
OKC
(potentially 76ers)
Clippers

3 year championship window teams
Warriors
Lakers

Any of those teams may be interested in Hayward.

Hell it's not GREAT but would we be devastated if we traded Hayward and a late first for Steven Adams on draft night?

Steven Adams isn't great but he's 27 and will be around for the next 5 years and is just a bigger Theis.

76ers could use Hayward and I would love to flip him for Tobias Harris. Again young guy not that far off but will be here for the long haul.

If the Warriors strike out in talks, they may think to themselves they'd have an easier time trading Hayward and the #2 pick instead of Wiggings (still can't confirm this 100% but from what I found last Hayward can opt in right before draft day) and we could get Wiggins in a 3 way trade. Again... mid twenties, here for the long haul.

Who **** knows what the Clips could offer and I can't imagine the Lakers have anything we want. But Hayward is tradeable.

Only plausible Hayward trade seems to be for Myles Turner. Can't see Ainge trading Hayward for Adams, Wiggins or Harris, and LAC and LAL have nothing to deal for Hayward.

If the 2nd pick is available, then maybe Boston can get it for Smart. Cannot see GSW trade the #2 for Hayward.

I forgot about Miles Turner.

I think Ainge would trade Hayward for any of:

Wiggins
Harris
Turner
Adams

Specifically, because they're all 28 or younger and add something to the team. Add to that we have first rounders we can add to give the other team the reason to do it instead of gambling on a very weak draft giving us something.

As much as we love this bubble season every single move has to be made with the idea of winning with Tatum as the #1 over the next 5 years. He will be the #1 target for all of the LA teams, FL teams, NY teams. We need to win with him and show that he can keep winning here when his time to test free agency comes (after this extension).

So while we're a WORSE team overall with all of those players over Hayward next year, it helps us keep it up for the following 4 seasons after next. And from there we just have to hope that either Brown breaks out, or we finally **** get lucky in the draft with one of our picks outside of the top 8. (or if Ainge can steal the next IT in a trade, something like that).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Wiggins and Harris are bad contracts. 1 yr of Hayward >> 1 yr Adams.

[Ed Pinkney]

Bigger is not necessarily better. Theis can do the things the Celtics obviously want to do on both sides of the ball, he can switch on the perimeter and not get hunted, and he can screen and dive and screen and pop on offense. Someone like Adams cant do all that in a lineup so heavily dominated by wing play. Haywards return has highlighted what the teams main problems are, and that is they only go 6 deep in their reliable rotation (current starters plus Hayward). Assuming Hayward opts in (and even if he opts out actually), that is what they need to address. Looking for the Crowder/Iguodala type trades that dont really cost them anything but could add some playoff reliability to the second unit is really what they need.

[Ernest]

A lot of these trade ideas are pretty bad to be honest. I do understand that if you trade a star (or good player) you often don't get back fair value in terms of current talent (it's not a video game.) I think Ainge will quietly shop Walker and Hayward and see if there is any deal that makes us better right away. Thats got to be a low chance. I think he will also look at deals that give us a bunch of future picks or young players. But pulling the trigger on a deal like that is hard as well as we are currently 6 wins away from an NBA title with this team.

These playoffs have certainly made me reconsider what our needs are. If you asked me a month ago I'd have said- Center and bench depth. I think we are fine there now. 3 point shooting might be the biggest need that could be filled the easiest.

[Ernest]

When we win we seem a piece or two away . When we lose we seem like we won’t quite be good enough to take down a front runner.
I love Kemba and he’s necessary if we have any chance now but I do wonder with Smart’s improved play and importance to the team, Hayward’s facilitating, and our desire for both Tatum and Jaylen to grow in those areas of their game, if Kemba isn’t the bet to consider trading more than Hayward. Teams have really schemed well against him despite his talent.

I've thought this for a long time. I wonder if we could get Rondo back or someone else like him- A cheap vet PG. Moving Walker would be risky without some more help. If Smart Wannamaker or Hayward missed any real time in the season we would be in big trouble.

[Darthlukey]

Wiggins and Harris are bad contracts. 1 yr of Hayward >> 1 yr Adams.

Thats why you would want compensation for taking on wiggins or Harris. And i certainly wouldn't do hayward for adams straight up either

[Fencer reregistered]

A lot of these trade ideas are pretty bad to be honest. I do understand that if you trade a star (or good player) you often don't get back fair value in terms of current talent (it's not a video game.) I think Ainge will quietly shop Walker and Hayward and see if there is any deal that makes us better right away. Thats got to be a low chance. I think he will also look at deals that give us a bunch of future picks or young players. But pulling the trigger on a deal like that is hard as well as we are currently 6 wins away from an NBA title with this team.

These playoffs have certainly made me reconsider what our needs are. If you asked me a month ago I'd have said- Center and bench depth. I think we are fine there now. 3 point shooting might be the biggest need that could be filled the easiest.

Wing depth looked dubious when Hayward, Langford and Green were all hurt at once.

I'm not sure that Green being healthy would have improved it that much.

[Ernest]

A lot of these trade ideas are pretty bad to be honest. I do understand that if you trade a star (or good player) you often don't get back fair value in terms of current talent (it's not a video game.) I think Ainge will quietly shop Walker and Hayward and see if there is any deal that makes us better right away. Thats got to be a low chance. I think he will also look at deals that give us a bunch of future picks or young players. But pulling the trigger on a deal like that is hard as well as we are currently 6 wins away from an NBA title with this team.

These playoffs have certainly made me reconsider what our needs are. If you asked me a month ago I'd have said- Center and bench depth. I think we are fine there now. 3 point shooting might be the biggest need that could be filled the easiest.

Wing depth looked dubious when Hayward, Langford and Green were all hurt at once.

I'm not sure that Green being healthy would have improved it that much.

Well Hayward could certainly make everything easier if he agrees to a team friendly extension.

In any even this year we didn't really add any vets to the team or make any small win now kinds of moves like Miami did picking up Crowder. Win or lose tomorrow, these playoffs have proven we are really close to a title. Next season we need to add a few vets. If guys like Wilams Wannamaker and Semi are still on the team, make them beat someone out (who is not a rookie) for minutes. We are in win now mode, we are out of development mode.

[Ernest]

Any cheap vet ideas? We could use a vet at the 1 3 and 5 spots or rather a guard a wing and a big. After the Lakers, we could make a strong a case as anyone as being a great destination for a ring chaser. who can be out PJ Brown 2.0 or Sam Cassell 2.0?

[Fencer reregistered]

Any cheap vet ideas? We could use a vet at the 1 3 and 5 spots or rather a guard a wing and a big. After the Lakers, we could make a strong a case as anyone as being a great destination for a ring chaser. who can be out PJ Brown 2.0 or Sam Cassell 2.0?

How much will Tristan Thompson be offered by the Cavs? (I thought of him because of the WT saying he and the Cavs had "mutual interest".)

Marc Gasol may not get a lot of money.

Boogie Cousins is worth the cheapest possible flyer given his injury luck, but may prefer LA.

I don't have a comparable list of perimeter players at my fingertips.

[zoyathedestroya]

Any cheap vet ideas? We could use a vet at the 1 3 and 5 spots or rather a guard a wing and a big. After the Lakers, we could make a strong a case as anyone as being a great destination for a ring chaser. who can be out PJ Brown 2.0 or Sam Cassell 2.0?

How much will Tristan Thompson be offered by the Cavs? (I thought of him because of the WT saying he and the Cavs had "mutual interest".)

Marc Gasol may not get a lot of money.

Boogie Cousins is worth the cheapest possible flyer given his injury luck, but may prefer LA.

I don't have a comparable list of perimeter players at my fingertips.

Let's hope Timelord can turn into the cheaper version of Tristan Thompson as soon as this offseason so we won't have to pay Tristan Thompson.

I would love Marc Gasol on the team, but not to play much. Maybe 10-12 minutes off the bench on regular nights and bigger minutes against Embiid, Jokic, AD, etc. More mentor role for our bigs and solid vet in the locker room. He might be a bit washed on the court, but he's one of the high BBIQ guys any team would love to have at the end of the bench this late in his career. I dunno how much he'll demand.

Flat-out no to Boogie. Kyrie was enough of a headache. We've seen this season what a harmonious locker room can do to the running of a well-oiled machine. No need for monkey wrenches.