Official Celtics 2022 Off-Season Thread

[Bill Lumbergh]

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Really Nice gesture.

I am so glad this guy is a Celtic, for so many reasons, and he's also a good basketball player. My favorite Celtic.

[Fierce1]

Basically the Celtics core is Tatum, Brown, Rob, Smart, and White.

4 of the 5 have long term contracts.

But I don't think Jaylen will refuse a max offer from the Celts when the time comes.

The Celts' present and future really looks bright.

Hopefully Brad can find a successor to Al Horford in the offseason.

[bucknersrevenge]

Basically the Celtics core is Tatum, Brown, Rob, Smart, and White.

4 of the 5 have long term contracts.

But I don't think Jaylen will refuse a max offer from the Celts when the time comes.

The Celts' present and future really looks bright.

Hopefully Brad can find a successor to Al Horford in the offseason.

I don't see Al going anywhere this offseason. What Al provides is difficult to replace. It's worth the cost to hold onto it. His game continues to age well as we thought it would before he left us before. I wouldn't be surprised if Al, this time, understanding what he has here in Boston, finds a reasonable deal to stay on for another couple of years at a lower salary, even if he ends up playing less minutes. Our current Top 12 guys (if you wanna add Sam Swish, Nesmith, and Stauskas to the list) are all under contract for next year already. What's exciting about that is the opportunity to build some real continuity here in our system at both ends of the floor. Internal improvement through chemistry, familiarity, and consistent reps is a significant factor. And here's the most exciting part about everything we're witnessing right now:

We still have no idea how high the ceiling of this group is. Think about that for a second.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Parliament10]

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Yeah. Marcus Smart aka "Cobra", this is his 8th year; all with the Celtics.
Imagine that.

[Fierce1]

Basically the Celtics core is Tatum, Brown, Rob, Smart, and White.

4 of the 5 have long term contracts.

But I don't think Jaylen will refuse a max offer from the Celts when the time comes.

The Celts' present and future really looks bright.

Hopefully Brad can find a successor to Al Horford in the offseason.

I don't see Al going anywhere this offseason. What Al provides is difficult to replace. It's worth the cost to hold onto it. His game continues to age well as we thought it would before he left us before. I'd be surprised if Al, this time, understanding what he has here in Boston, finds a reasonable deal to stay on for another couple of years at a lower salary, even if he ends up playing less minutes. Our current Top 12 guys (if you wanna add Sam Swish, Nesmith, and Stauskas to the list) are all under contract for next year already. What's exciting about that is the opportunity to build some real continuity here in our system at both ends of the floor. Internal improvement through chemistry, familiarity, and consistent reps is a significant factor. And here's the most exciting part about everything we're witnessing right now.

We still have no idea how high the ceiling of this group is. Think about that for a second.

I don't know if the Celtic owners will be willing to be a tax payer next season.

If the Celts keep Horford then the Celts' player salaries will be somewhere around 150m next season.

It's true that what Al provides is difficult to replace, but the Celtic owners have a reputation of being cheap.

[Larry_Russell]

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Really Nice gesture.

Marcus Smart is one of my single favorite people.

We always be a fan of this guy, would love to shake the mans hand and thank him for being such a great human being.

[steefP2]

Btw you know what’s flying under the radar. Tatum and brown early on saying we want hard coaching and that not being an empty talking point.

Early on, Udoka was constantly on this team’s ass and on the jays in particular. They didn’t tune him out, didn’t roll their eyes. They embraced it and took it to heart. Credit to these young men who’ve had their ego fed for a long time now for not just talking a big game but actually walking the walk.

[steefP2]

Obviously there’s a lot of factors involved and the early season play was disappointing even considering the roster changes made since and health but here’s my fav stat to summarize the season: in 3000 possessions, only excluding shroder and enes, the Celtics have a 9.4 net rating. 4 points above their total season average.

Again I’m not saying it was all their fault. The growth the jays have shows personally as well as rob’s and smart’s has been crucial and substantial but goddamn those guys fit bad lol.

[Feed Your Head]

Obviously there’s a lot of factors involved and the early season play was disappointing even considering the roster changes made since and health but here’s my fav stat to summarize the season: in 3000 possessions, only excluding shroder and enes, the Celtics have a 9.4 net rating. 4 points above their total season average.

Again I’m not saying it was all their fault. The growth the jays have shows personally as well as rob’s and smart’s has been crucial and substantial but goddamn those guys fit bad lol.

You can say it was Schroder’s fault.

[sully00]

Basically the Celtics core is Tatum, Brown, Rob, Smart, and White.

4 of the 5 have long term contracts.

But I don't think Jaylen will refuse a max offer from the Celts when the time comes.

The Celts' present and future really looks bright.

Hopefully Brad can find a successor to Al Horford in the offseason.

I don't see Al going anywhere this offseason. What Al provides is difficult to replace. It's worth the cost to hold onto it. His game continues to age well as we thought it would before he left us before. I'd be surprised if Al, this time, understanding what he has here in Boston, finds a reasonable deal to stay on for another couple of years at a lower salary, even if he ends up playing less minutes. Our current Top 12 guys (if you wanna add Sam Swish, Nesmith, and Stauskas to the list) are all under contract for next year already. What's exciting about that is the opportunity to build some real continuity here in our system at both ends of the floor. Internal improvement through chemistry, familiarity, and consistent reps is a significant factor. And here's the most exciting part about everything we're witnessing right now.

We still have no idea how high the ceiling of this group is. Think about that for a second.

I don't know if the Celtic owners will be willing to be a tax payer next season.

If the Celts keep Horford then the Celts' player salaries will be somewhere around 150m next season.

It's true that what Al provides is difficult to replace, but the Celtic owners have a reputation of being cheap.

I think Wyc understands the lux tax system because he helped design it. The idea is to pay it for championship team not pay it as the cost of doing business because that is stupid.

Boston was a tax payer in 2018 one of 5 teams. In 2019 there were 4 teams the last 2 years have been 7 teams with some outrageous bills being racked up by GS and BRK. Most teams are over one year and then under again this year the bill is over 600 million dollars 50% of which will be distributed to teams under the tax.

I think Boston is willing to pay the tax for a star talent to pair with the J's to try and win a title. I am not sure Al Horford is going to be that guy. In a short sample Theis' numbers are back to being the fantastic stuff they were his first time around so I am not sure how much Boston loses be giving Al's mins to Theis and Grant Williams.

Turning Al's money into another max or near max player is the prudent if somewhat cold-hearted thing to do.

[Fierce1]

I think Wyc understands the lux tax system because he helped design it. The idea is to pay it for championship team not pay it as the cost of doing business because that is stupid.

Boston was a tax payer in 2018 one of 5 teams. In 2019 there were 4 teams the last 2 years have been 7 teams with some outrageous bills being racked up by GS and BRK. Most teams are over one year and then under again this year the bill is over 600 million dollars 50% of which will be distributed to teams under the tax.

I think Boston is willing to pay the tax for a star talent to pair with the J's to try and win a title. I am not sure Al Horford is going to be that guy. In a short sample Theis' numbers are back to being the fantastic stuff they were his first time around so I am not sure how much Boston loses be giving Al's mins to Theis and Grant Williams.

Turning Al's money into another max or near max player is the prudent if somewhat cold-hearted thing to do.

So true.

[jmr07019]

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[sam_I_am]

I don't see Al going anywhere this offseason. What Al provides is difficult to replace. It's worth the cost to hold onto it. His game continues to age well as we thought it would before he left us before. I'd be surprised if Al, this time, understanding what he has here in Boston, finds a reasonable deal to stay on for another couple of years at a lower salary, even if he ends up playing less minutes. Our current Top 12 guys (if you wanna add Sam Swish, Nesmith, and Stauskas to the list) are all under contract for next year already. What's exciting about that is the opportunity to build some real continuity here in our system at both ends of the floor. Internal improvement through chemistry, familiarity, and consistent reps is a significant factor. And here's the most exciting part about everything we're witnessing right now.

We still have no idea how high the ceiling of this group is. Think about that for a second.

I don't know if the Celtic owners will be willing to be a tax payer next season.

If the Celts keep Horford then the Celts' player salaries will be somewhere around 150m next season.

It's true that what Al provides is difficult to replace, but the Celtic owners have a reputation of being cheap.

I think Wyc understands the lux tax system because he helped design it. The idea is to pay it for championship team not pay it as the cost of doing business because that is stupid.

Boston was a tax payer in 2018 one of 5 teams. In 2019 there were 4 teams the last 2 years have been 7 teams with some outrageous bills being racked up by GS and BRK. Most teams are over one year and then under again this year the bill is over 600 million dollars 50% of which will be distributed to teams under the tax.

I think Boston is willing to pay the tax for a star talent to pair with the J's to try and win a title. I am not sure Al Horford is going to be that guy. In a short sample Theis' numbers are back to being the fantastic stuff they were his first time around so I am not sure how much Boston loses be giving Al's mins to Theis and Grant Williams.

Turning Al's money into another max or near max player is the prudent if somewhat cold-hearted thing to do.

I think Al/RW combination of agility, strength, shot blocking and passing is the unique ingredient making this team special right now. I don’t think Theis or GW next to RW can bring such an elite interior wall of defense against elite NBA offenses that we are seeing from Al/RW. I think they do come close making them perfect rotation players but we would need to replace Al with somebody better than Theis to get past second rounds of playoffs in my opinion. Of course Al is declining and not worth his max salary…but is cutting him to save a mere 12 million really worth it? I don’t think so. I do also agree with trading him for a better younger max player if that were possible.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Glad to learn the Williams twins and Pritch are in on the PB&J pre-game routine. Curry, Giannis, and others have adopted it during their title seasons. And if you didn't know by now who started the craze, read the article below if you got some time...

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents18931717/the-nba-secret-addiction

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[zoyathedestroya]

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Cs moved up a spot from #4 to #3. Some discussion there how our regular starting unit has won 12 straight games and how we've been awesome on offense since ASB thanks hugely to one Jayson Tatum (funny how that works). 10 of the 14 games to close out the season are vs. above 500 teams IINM.

[bisme37]

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

Do we have Horford thread ? I couldn't find one that's not about his contract specifically and with the post season around the corner, Playoff Al is about to be activated so I need to know what thread to bump when the time comes.

Meanwhile, Il'll just drop this friendly reminder that in his 15-year career Horford has missed the playoffs only once and that particular year his team shut him down because he was winning them too many games. Add two national championships in college too. He's pretty good at the winning basketball games thing.

[zoyathedestroya]

Total postseasons missed by our 9-man rotation is FOUR (White - 2, Horf - 1, Theis - 1). Five of the nine players are holdovers/returnees from the 2018 run.

I think this is correct: Smart will hold the longest active postseason appearance streak in the NBA (single franchise) once the playoffs begin. He's made the playoffs since being drafted in 2014.

[LewisnotMiller]

Do we have Horford thread ? I couldn't find one that's not about his contract specifically and with the post season around the corner, Playoff Al is about to be activated so I need to know what thread to bump when the time comes.

Meanwhile, Il'll just drop this friendly reminder that in his 15-year career Horford has missed the playoffs only once and that particular year his team shut him down because he was winning them too many games. Add two national championships in college too. He's pretty good at the winning basketball games thing.

Pressure is on. I've been trying to reach my youngest daughter (15 months) to do the Uncle Clappy clap when big Al makes a play.
Had some success this week, as she started clapping along, but it was like a polite little golf clap. Might have to resort to chocolate-based bribery to get the big claps going.