2020 NBA Draft Thread

[Kalela]

I'm sick of seeing Tyler Bey in mocks. He's really an undersized 4 who is a liability on offense. The Cs need that like a hole in the head.

Sounds like a perfect Ainge draft pick.

[Cuban Pete]

I'm sick of seeing Tyler Bey in mocks. He's really an undersized 4 who is a liability on offense. The Cs need that like a hole in the head.

Sounds like a perfect Ainge draft pick.

I approach every draft with apprehension.

[31to6]

I'm sick of seeing Tyler Bey in mocks. He's really an undersized 4 who is a liability on offense. The Cs need that like a hole in the head.

Sounds like a perfect Ainge draft pick.

I approach every draft with apprehension.

That guy has crazy hops though and is undersized as in skinny, which isn’t Danny’s type.

[playa-hater]

I see many posts on here begging for "wings" Patrick Williams or Precious Achiuwa with the 14th pick. Both of these guys played PF a lot in college. Guys, Williams only had 4 games last season that he made a max of 2 three point shots in, and Achiuwa only had 2 games. These guys would be in competition with Semi and G. Williams due to being unable to spread the floor enough. Now if we are moving Semi, and Grant, then sure, but I don't see Danny doing that. We have enough power forwards that can't hit three's consistently.

The wings we need are shooters like Saddiq Bey, Aaron Nesmith or Devin Vassell. Bey had 20 games where he made 2 or more three's (one game he made 8) Nesmith had 12 games where he made at least 2 three's, (he had 4 games where he made at least 7 three's) Vassell had 12 games where he made at least 2 three's (1 game with 7) These are the kind of shooters we need off the bench.
One of these three guys should be playing second team SF, with Smart at point guard, Langford moving to SG, and replacing Green, who should be waved, and Wannamaker who should not be resigned.

At 26 BPA at point guard and 30 BPA as a big is the right move. Also, we certainly should have room for all three #1's or at least 2 of them, if we release Green (can't shoot for a shooting guard), let Wannamaker walk( somewhat steady, but way to many stupid mistakes for a 31 years old veteran), and don't pick up Semi option ( not a vert high BBIQ). I don't see Danny not picking up Semi's option, but IMO, it's time to move on from him. We should also move on from Edwards and Poirier, but should be a training camp battle with Waters and Tacko and the 47th pick.

Those are my top 3, easily.. But I am not down on P Williams as you are. In believe he is still only 18 years old and does have good shooting mechanics. He is also the only 4-3 of the group while the others are 2-3 types. Though Tatum can easily play small ball as a 4, I would still rather him at a 3 if possible. But since Boston is already in win now mode I much rather have the other 3 wings first. If Boston can find another wing to knock down 3s at a high rate, they will be unstoppable.

I can't take Semi anymore. and I see no more ceiling in Grant Williams other than improving his shooting a bit. Romeo is 2 years away from being 2 years away. I wsn't happy with that pick and he still hasn't shown any real promising signs to date.

*at 26 and 30 BPA for me regardless of position..

As I have said already. this offseason is huge. last good chance to get a high draft pick level player. The Nets will be tough next year and so will Miami.

Don't F%ck this up Ainge and Stevens !!

[captain green]

I see no upside in g. Will or edwards or tacko. But I do agree this year's draft is important to at least land a role player. If I'm Danny I'm making trading out for next year or trading up my highest priority. We are pretty stacked starter level and with time lord getting minutes means we can move on from kanter. I'd be ok moving on from kanter Edwards poirer green and tacko. I'd also assume semi stays price is to good. So maybe trade 14 and 30 add any of last year's picks to move up and then try 26 and second Rd pick and last years pick for a next year pick then call it a night. We don't need much but we need depth and I'm absolutely ok with wannamaker another year

[bucknersrevenge]

This kid Robert Woodard II out of Miss St. is one to watch at 26. 6'7 235 with a 7'1 wingspan? That's the sound of Brad Stevens getting a boner. Screams defensive versatility. Athletic enough. Can shoot it a bit. Good motor.

[playa-hater]

This kid Robert Woodard II out of Miss St. is one to watch at 26. 6'7 235 with a 7'1 wingspan? That's the sound of Brad Stevens getting a boner. Screams defensive versatility. Athletic enough. Can shoot it a bit. Good motor.

I love him already..can defend almost any position and has a vey good shooting motion. Did shoot 40% from 3.. Obviously not a high volume shooter.

If his shots is the real deal, getting a true 3 and D player for Boston is a must.. Semi is a fraud.

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[djFan71]

Any thoughts on Xavier Tillman? Seems like a guy I'd like - does everything but shoot.
Might be a reach at 30 and gone by 47 is the problem.

[Cuban Pete]

Any thoughts on Xavier Tillman? Seems like a guy I'd like - does everything but shoot.
Might be a reach at 30 and gone by 47 is the problem.

Tillman is the polar opposite of Issac Okoro. Outside of Assist%, Okoro's numbers are crap. Yet when you look at him, he can do so many things. He's a great finisher, plays great defense, etc. He's a true freshman with upside. He's a bigger version of Jaylen Brown. In a nutshell, lousy numbers, great tape.

Tillman's numbers are great across the board, but when you watch him play, his feet seldom leave the floor. Moreover, he shoots like it's against his religion. He's timid.

[Cuban Pete]

My Sleeper List

Milan Acquaah (22) PG California Baptist
Jermaine Bishop (23) PG Norfolk St
Tray Boyd (21) PG East Tennessee St
Harald Frey (23) PG Montana St
Jordan Ford (22) PG St Mary's
Devonte Green (23) PG Indiana
Christian Vital (23) PG Connecticut
Kamar Baldwin (22) PG Butler
Jon Axel Gudmundsson (23) SG Davidson
Ty-Shon Alexander (22) SG Creighton
Nate Hinton (21) SG Houston
Andrien White (23) SG Wake Forest
Alpha Diallo (23) SF Providence
Xavier Sneed (22) SF Kansas St
Anthony Lamb (22) SF Vermont
Lamine Diane (22) SF UC Northridge
Nathan Knight (22) PF William & Mary
Tyler Scanlon (23) SF Belmont

I meant to add to this.

Juwan Durham (22) PF Notre Dame

Durham has the highest career block rate of any player who played 4+ games in the draft.

[themoneyteam2]

Woodard - J McDaniels - T Bey all in my best sleeper pick.

None of these guys are sleepers. They're well known, especially McDaniels. I'm sick of seeing Tyler Bey in mocks. He's really an undersized 4 who is a liability on offense. The Cs need that like a hole in the head.

Here are some of my sleepers...

Milan Acquaah (22) PG California Baptist
Jermaine Bishop (23) PG Norfolk St
Tray Boyd (21) PG East Tennessee St
Harald Frey (23) PG Montana St
Jordan Ford (22) PG St Mary's
Devonte Green (23) PG Indiana
Christian Vital (23) PG Connecticut
Kamar Baldwin (22) PG Butler
Jon Axel Gudmundsson (23) SG Davidson
Ty-Shon Alexander (22) SG Creighton
Nate Hinton (21) SG Houston
Andrien White (23) SG Wake Forest
Alpha Diallo (23) SF Providence
Xavier Sneed (22) SF Kansas St
Anthony Lamb (22) SF Vermont
Lamine Diane (22) SF UC Northridge
Nathan Knight (22) PF William & Mary
Tyler Scanlon (23) SF Belmont

I meant to add to this.

Juwan Durham (22) PF Notre Dame

Durham has the highest career block rate of any player who played 4+ games in the draft.

lol there is zero chance he gets drafted. Could be a nice G league player though

[playa-hater]

Any thoughts on Xavier Tillman? Seems like a guy I'd like - does everything but shoot.
Might be a reach at 30 and gone by 47 is the problem.

I hear his does all the little things you need to win very well. Problem is Stevens likes his Bigs to pick and Pop. If this was just a few years ago his stock would be much higher. But it seems lke everyone is going modern spread it out BB so his value is not as high..

Not the best comparison but plays something like D Theis.

[threrf23]

Any thoughts on Xavier Tillman? Seems like a guy I'd like - does everything but shoot.
Might be a reach at 30 and gone by 47 is the problem.

Statistically impressive, though foul prone.

He didn't really pass the eye test for me when I watched him in last year's tourney. Too raw. But he's probably a sure thing to be a rotation big for years to come, so I'd also take him somewhere in the 30-47 range, no questions asked.

His teammate Cassius Winston intrigues me as well, reminds me a little of VanVleet just in the sense that he's a four year starter at PG, winning pedigree, but not taken very seriously b/c he lacks athleticism and what not.

[big-shot-ROB]

This kid Robert Woodard II out of Miss St. is one to watch at 26. 6'7 235 with a 7'1 wingspan? That's the sound of Brad Stevens getting a boner. Screams defensive versatility. Athletic enough. Can shoot it a bit. Good motor.

I love him already..can defend almost any position and has a vey good shooting motion. Did shoot 40% from 3.. Obviously not a high volume shooter.

If his shots is the real deal, getting a true 3 and D player for Boston is a must.. Semi is a fraud.

He's shot 60% at FT line the two years. Moreover, he shot horribly last year from 3 and this year's volume and sample size are too small.

He's an good defender and tremendous blocker at his size, but I am confident Semi shoots way better.

[big-shot-ROB]

Also, I was really down on S. Bey since I saw his form.

But he is growing on me lately. The sample size is way more trustworthy than Nesmith, he has a great chance to be there at 14 and can actually put the ball om the floor.

He's also 2 inches taller than Aaron (6'8 vs 6'6).

I don't know, they might be something there.

We badly need shooters, more than bigs I think. I can't stand another year of seeing Smart, Semi brick shots or Grant/Langford hesitant to shoot.

[BillessuR6]

We definitely need shooters off the bench. Nesmith is my pick at 14 but I doubt he will be available. Bey I am not that high on but I would take him if he is the best shooter left...

At the end of the first round I like Paul Reed (I know his shooting form looks terrible but I love his defense and if he can improve his shot he will be a steal).

I wouldn`t mind Immanuel Quickley, either, as a shooter off the bench.

[snowman]

Saddiq Bey is my fav to pick up with the 14th pick. I've said it many times. He's a bit heavier that Tatum (6'8, 218 lbs), which makes me think he could swing between the 3-4 like Tatum has for us. He's the same age as Tatum is now. He has a good inside game, with a little jump hook, and he has a quick release on this 3 point shot, and he shot 45% on 5.6 attempts per game. He had 13 games where he hit 3 or more three's. So a good sample size. One of the best 3 point shooter in college basketball this past year. Pretty good handles on the dribble too. If you watch his highlight's he's the real deal. I think he would be a great match with Tatum, Brown, Hayward and Langford. I'm much higher on him than I am Langford, and would be a great replacement for Hayward when that day comes.

[Zombiesonics]

Any thoughts on Xavier Tillman? Seems like a guy I'd like - does everything but shoot.
Might be a reach at 30 and gone by 47 is the problem.

Tillman is the polar opposite of Issac Okoro. Outside of Assist%, Okoro's numbers are crap. Yet when you look at him, he can do so many things. He's a great finisher, plays great defense, etc. He's a true freshman with upside. He's a bigger version of Jaylen Brown. In a nutshell, lousy numbers, great tape.

Tillman's numbers are great across the board, but when you watch him play, his feet seldom leave the floor. Moreover, he shoots like it's against his religion. He's timid.

Well , his strength right now isn't shooting or scoring with a high usage. He has really high upside as a passer, is a legitimate defensive anchor, and will clobber dudes with screens. He is nearly a 70% ft shooter for his career which is just fine.

There are plenty of full Michigan state games on youtube i highly recommend, you can see his head is on a swivel defensively ordering teammates around and he is actively looking for cutters in Izzos offense. I get it though he's not a super high upside guy because of his lack of real bounce and true size but he might be something 20-35 in this draft. One of those guys who is productive in the nba and you go, "man, how did he slipped to the late first?"

[bucknersrevenge]

This kid Robert Woodard II out of Miss St. is one to watch at 26. 6'7 235 with a 7'1 wingspan? That's the sound of Brad Stevens getting a boner. Screams defensive versatility. Athletic enough. Can shoot it a bit. Good motor.

I love him already..can defend almost any position and has a vey good shooting motion. Did shoot 40% from 3.. Obviously not a high volume shooter.

If his shots is the real deal, getting a true 3 and D player for Boston is a must.. Semi is a fraud.

He's shot 60% at FT line the two years. Moreover, he shot horribly last year from 3 and this year's volume and sample size are too small.

He's an good defender and tremendous blocker at his size, but I am confident Semi shoots way better.

I see a player who has worked to improve his shooting. I don't know if his sample size is more about his game or scheme but IF Woodard has the mental makeup and the ethic to work on those things, we've seen players improve their shooting before, especially here. So at 26, that's not something that's gonna scare me. We're talking about a 26 pick. At 14 that would scare me.

Which brings me to Saddiq Bey. On the surface I get the appeal of Bey. Shooting and defensive versatility. Certainly fits what Brad likes here. I could be talked into Bey if we ended up with him at 14. But he's not my first choice because his handle looks extremely loose, he's not that athletic and he has no burst. If he has trouble getting a step on college athletes, I'm not expecting him to be able to get a step on NBA defenders. And if that's the case, you're drafting Robert Covington at 14. I mean, that's essentially what you're getting. Nice player. Absolutely a role for him on this team. Will have a good career and help pretty quickly. All that's true. But we're spending a lottery pick on that? I'd rather go after a player with a higher upside and more offensive potential at 14. Part of the reason why I understand the Langford pick in retrospect.