ImageImageImage

Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't)

Moderators: bisme37, Froob, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts, Parliament10, canman1971, shackles10, snowman

Fencer reregistered
RealGM
Posts: 41,095
And1: 27,978
Joined: Oct 25, 2006

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1261 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:32 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Celtics:

✔ top 3 seed
✔ top 10 offense
✔ top 10 defense
✔ top 10 net rating
✖ defensive indicators (29th in steals; 9.25 average)
✔ offensive indicators (7.25 average)
✔ playoff experience
✔ roster continuity
✔ 2 all-stars
✔ 1 all-defense
✖ 1 MVP


Looks sloppy.

The 415 returning minutes bit is an obvious but harmless typo.

The numbers on all-stars seem very implausible. Perhaps he meant >=2 rather than >2.

Similarly All-Defense, possibly.

Makes me wonder what else is wrong too.

...

Oh yeah -- tough to see how anything could be 81%, whether he means to count over a 23 or 24 year period.
Banned temporarily for, among other sins, being "Extremely Deviant".
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1262 » by Parliament10 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:47 pm

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,566
And1: 101,358
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1263 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:49 pm

Read on Twitter

There's still time to lose all our games.
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1264 » by Parliament10 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:00 am

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,722
And1: 17,148
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1265 » by Fierce1 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:07 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Read on Twitter

I don't think that's accurate.

The Cs of 2007-08 got 50 wins when they only had 12 losses.

This season's Cs got 50 wins when they had 14 losses.
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,566
And1: 101,358
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1266 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:36 am

The Celtics currently have a Relative Offensive Rating (offensive rating relative to league average) of +7.1. Only 15 previous teams in NBA history have reached the +7.0+ mark.
Spoiler:
Image

That mark is second highest in franchise history and the other teams on the top are mostly Bird-era teams. Both Mazzulla teams in the top 13.

Image
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 19,722
And1: 17,148
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1267 » by Fierce1 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:47 am

Not surprising considering JT is 1st tier superstar, just like Bird. :D
User avatar
ConstableGeneva
RealGM
Posts: 50,566
And1: 101,358
Joined: Sep 22, 2012
Location: Parody Account
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1268 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:10 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:The Celtics currently have a Relative Offensive Rating (offensive rating relative to league average) of +7.1. Only 15 previous teams in NBA history have reached the +7.0+ mark.

That mark is second highest in franchise history and the other teams on the top are mostly Bird-era teams. Both Mazzulla teams in the top 13.

Image

BTW, as far as the Celtics go, defensive dominance seems to be a better indicator/predictor for a title than offensive dominance.

Image

13 of the 21 Celtics teams with a Relative Defensive Rating of -4.0 or better have won the title. Cs currently sitting at -4.3. Only 4 of the top 21 Celtics teams in Relative Offensive Rating went on to win the title. Two of them were also dominant on defense (1986, 2008).
░N░0░0░D░S░ ░I░N░ ░B░I░O░
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1269 » by Parliament10 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:45 pm

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
Bill Lumbergh
General Manager
Posts: 9,954
And1: 12,145
Joined: Jul 12, 2009
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1270 » by Bill Lumbergh » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:45 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Read on Twitter

I don't think that's accurate.

The Cs of 2007-08 got 50 wins when they only had 12 losses.

This season's Cs got 50 wins when they had 14 losses.

Look, I ain't that good at my timeses and guzintas. I was told there'd be no math.
Homerclease
RealGM
Posts: 30,682
And1: 32,715
Joined: Dec 09, 2015

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1271 » by Homerclease » Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:40 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=2r3K1qCL2UmIu9zb8OVdDw
Gant
RealGM
Posts: 11,065
And1: 15,674
Joined: Mar 16, 2006

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1272 » by Gant » Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:59 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=2r3K1qCL2UmIu9zb8OVdDw


That's an unusual level of candor. Mike's on his way out and is free to say a few things he otherwise might not.
BK_2020
RealGM
Posts: 17,062
And1: 15,798
Joined: Sep 08, 2020
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1273 » by BK_2020 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:22 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=2r3K1qCL2UmIu9zb8OVdDw

How is it shocking. A lot of Celtics players said basically that without completely verbalizing it.
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 22,341
And1: 21,242
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1274 » by Hal14 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:28 pm

If you say something is shocking, you get more engagement with your tweet lol.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1275 » by Parliament10 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:58 am

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
165bows
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 22,179
And1: 15,042
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
Location: The land of incremental improvement.

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1276 » by 165bows » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:10 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=2r3K1qCL2UmIu9zb8OVdDw

How is it shocking. A lot of Celtics players said basically that without completely verbalizing it.

I think it was “Grant is super annoying but we love him anyways” to just the first part once he left and they didn’t have to deal with him afterwards.
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1277 » by Parliament10 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
bisme37
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 25,044
And1: 72,834
Joined: May 24, 2014
 

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1278 » by bisme37 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:33 pm

Image
User avatar
Parliament10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 52,282
And1: 61,618
Joined: Jul 24, 2009
       

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1279 » by Parliament10 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:49 pm

Read on Twitter
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum
User avatar
Shak_Celts
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 50,896
And1: 64,890
Joined: Feb 07, 2016
     

Re: Celtics 2023-24, Season Thread, (con't) 

Post#1280 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:26 pm

Sam Hauser could average 20 on another team! Lot of sacrifices in places I forget to look at sometimes. Maybe I’m crazy but I could see it. Pritchard could probably get 15. I’m not being generous enough to how well the bench has performed this season and yes i realize it’s only the regular season… they deserve more props! Some of you already do it but we all could be more appreciative of them.
NAME ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(!)

Return to Boston Celtics