The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

[mbsnmisc]

When we're turning down two All-NBA 26 and a 27 year olds because it doesn't give us a big enough window, I think we need to re-evaluate our goals for the team.

I agree that acquiring George and Butler (if you even could) is the short game as you would still be an underdog to the Dubs. Why deplete your young talent/high draft picks for a team you won't be able to keep together more than 3 years that still won't be favored to win it all??? Then after you blow your load and come up short and can't re-sign all these guys your stuck with a non-lottery capped out team that's going nowhere for the next 5 years...meanwhile, the top of the NBA is now wide open and Jaylen, Ball, and Bamba are borderline all-stars and still on their rookie deals...no thanks.

For the next 3+ years, literally anything short of acquiring LeBron will mean we are serious underdogs to the Dubs. They have three of the five best shooters in the league, and two of them are legit top-5 overall players. Plus Dray and a bench of not-bad players.

A quartet of IT-Butler-PG-Horford is damn good, with the pieces to at least get by Cleveland in their current state. After that, you need an injury or some tremendous luck, but that's table stakes at this point thanks to Durant's move.

Slight veer O/T. The Warriors are front runners. While they are obviously uber talented, I want to see them grind out playoff games, see if Curry can actually defend.

I would still take them over the field, but they are not unbeatable.

[Froob]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

Blakely 3 weeks ago: Celtics are engaging the Magic for Vuc

Result: Crickets...

Celtics are the best team to be a faux insider for. There's so much **** out there that it's easy to make up or re-report. Lol we tried to start a fake rumor on trade deadline last year that Blake was headed to Boston got a few guys here to retweet my rumor. Got a few hits lol.

[truth18]

That was a shot at him as always. He';s saying we'd trade for George or Butler only. I'm telling you we'll trade for a bench guy.

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

[OFWGKTA]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

Trust the process homie

[mbsnmisc]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

Good luck.

[chrisab123]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

Congrats! Hope you get it.

[chrisab123]

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

Blakely 3 weeks ago: Celtics are engaging the Magic for Vuc

Result: Crickets...

Celtics are the best team to be a faux insider for. There's so much **** out there that it's easy to make up or re-report. Lol we tried to start a fake rumor on trade deadline last year that Blake was headed to Boston got a few guys here to retweet my rumor. Got a few hits lol.

I just hope Blakely comes out before the draft and says Celtics are convinced they will not get the #1 pick.

Result: Fultz and a bunch of trade offers.

[TheOGJabroni]

Still holding out hope of trading the BKN17 pick and Jae for PG13, and Brown+AB+BKN18 for Butler. Pipe dream, sure, but atleast Ainge always aims for the stars.

That's an "all in" deal that I would be behind. IT/Smart/Butler/George/Horford.

I think to acquire both would signal a short sighted win now approach. Such a move would gut the quality depth of the current roster. How would such a roster compete at a high level in the case of injury. This would not be consistent with Danny's stated intentions to build a sustainable winner. Don't get me wrong, it would be tremendous 3-4 year run, but then what. Looking ahead to the 2019-2020 season, George would be 29, Butler, 30, IT 31 and Horford 33. We would soon be entering the aging all star post Allen, Garnett and Pierce era without the gift of Brooklyn to bail us out. I'm sure Chicago, Indiana and Philadelphia would love to see the Celtics trade away the picks from Brooklyn and the salary cap flexibility they've created for themselves for a short run. It would be perfectly timed just when Philadelphia will be beginning an 8 year run with an entire starting 5 of all stars just beginning their age 21-24 prime. I really hope Danny has learned how difficult it is to escape mediocrity in the NBA. The Celtics are very close to needing only a rebounder to immediately compete with Cleveland if they have not already positioned themselves to do so. The Celtics are very, very close, to delivering the knock out punch to Cleveland. They could conceivably add two impact free agents and two future all stars via the draft over the next 18 months to the future of Smart, Brown and Zicic.

I'm with you on most of this post but how do we add two impact free agents? I'm pretty sure just one max contract wipes out the cap space entirely, and that is with some manipulation and depleting of the roster.

[Froob]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

Nice pun and good luck have to let us know how it goes!!

[jirrit]

I mean Hield has looked an awful lot like Statskus who they gave away to Philly. Yes the 6th pick overall but he's really not that good. I mean its been a year and things can obviously change but the Celtics definitely beat that offer without including the BRK picks or even Brown (most likely).

You don't seem to get the fact they still seem to like Hield, and there's no rookie or young guy on our squad besides Brown, whom they maybe not even like so much. Plus the fact we aint got no let's say #16 pick in this draft but only our top four pick, we just didn't have the right assets, we'd actually have to overpay because our pick's so good, lol.

Rozier/Smart/Brown could all be had for a star player. You throw someone like Brown in and the Celtics 18 and the deal is done. But Vivek thinks Hield is Curry so who knows...

Smart and Celtic 18 doesn't top what they got. In my opinion it does but in their opinion it doesn't. If I have a gigantic crush on girl x I might not wanna marry girl y?

The pick is also a year later + most likely much lower than Pel 17.

[chrisab123]

You don't seem to get the fact they still seem to like Hield, and there's no rookie or young guy on our squad besides Brown, whom they maybe not even like so much. Plus the fact we aint got no let's say #16 pick in this draft but only our top four pick, we just didn't have the right assets, we'd actually have to overpay because our pick's so good, lol.

Rozier/Smart/Brown could all be had for a star player. You throw someone like Brown in and the Celtics 18 and the deal is done. But Vivek thinks Hield is Curry so who knows...

Smart and Celtic 18 doesn't top what they got. In my opinion it does but in their opinion it doesn't. If I have a gigantic crush on girl x I might not wanna marry girl y?

The pick is also a year later + most likely much lower than Pel 17.

The pick this year is inconsequential. Pels are going to make the playoffs now. But what isn't inconsequential is the fact it takes away their pick from Chicago. The pick they got is probably falling between 15-17. But their own pick has a shot at top 5 now.

[jirrit]

Rozier/Smart/Brown could all be had for a star player. You throw someone like Brown in and the Celtics 18 and the deal is done. But Vivek thinks Hield is Curry so who knows...

Smart and Celtic 18 doesn't top what they got. In my opinion it does but in their opinion it doesn't. If I have a gigantic crush on girl x I might not wanna marry girl y?

The pick is also a year later + most likely much lower than Pel 17.

The pick this year is inconsequential. Pels are going to make the playoffs now. But what isn't inconsequential is the fact it takes away their pick from Chicago. The pick they got is probably falling between 15-17. But their own pick has a shot at top 5 now.

Yup, that pick's gonna be 15-17 yes, and ours next year is gonna be 20-26. Don't know what them getting their pick back has to do with that?

Anyhow. Ainge, and many others, didn't want him for a pretty cheap price, though we would have had to give up at least Jaylen and other minor assets to get him and I don't think I would do that. I don't even think Jaylen + BOS 18 would top Pels offer at all actually. Not in Sac's mind. But like I said, let's move on. Ainge would only pull the trigger on a sure thing, cause if we stand pat we'll still improve cause we have to **** top 5 picks coming our way.... And Cousins is one of the most uncertain things you can acquire in the current NBA landscape. Also positive is, if this doesn't work out we can choose between AD or DMC. I go AD

[DelMonte West]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

[truth18]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

He made one somewhat recently I think.

DDB had a kid last year if I'm not mistaken, probably not around as much due to real life stuff but he posts semi regularly. LBF hasn't posted much this year but you can catch him occasionally in GTs. Cave has very specific knowledge but he's on here regularly. Smitty has a lot on his plate but can also be found in GTs pretty regularly.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

I'm still bitter about that. I was in the minority on banners only. He just kept on going with that hyper masculine tough guy BS and got tossed cause of it and Bill took off as a result of the BS.

[truth18]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

I'm still bitter about that. I was in the minority on banners only. He just kept on going with that hyper masculine tough guy BS and got tossed cause of it and Bill took off as a result of the BS.

Idk, I don't have the thread in front of me but BFB doesn't strike me as the type to leave over that. If anything, it was probably the people that insisted on pointing out that Smitty and BFB may not have 100% correct info at all times (stating this as criticism like we don't already know that) over and over that probably got to him. Banners may have jumped in but there were others pushing that agenda very strongly before he joined that thread iirc.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

He made one somewhat recently I think.

DDB had a kid last year if I'm not mistaken, probably not around as much due to real life stuff but he posts semi regularly. LBF hasn't posted much this year but you can catch him occasionally in GTs. Cave has very specific knowledge but he's on here regularly. Smitty has a lot on his plate but can also be found in GTs pretty regularly.

I'm nostalgic for when Bfb would show up and tell us all we were wrong, that the team was thinking x, that we were missing player development perspective y. Learned a lot from him.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I'm just pissed because this means the rule of Blakely is in play. For newbies on this board it essentially means that the exact opposite of what he predicts will occur.

I'm just salty that Blakely has my dream job, hate the game not the player . Could spend more time RealGM and less time doing work.

OT but I recently applied for my dream job, a senior writing position at the Sixers.

Found out today that I will get an interview. Doubtful that they will give the position to someone my age but it should be a fun process regardless.

Good luck, sure you have a great shot.

[chrisab123]

Remember when we used to have insiders on this forum? Where are they?!

I can't remember the last time BFB posted. Miss his insight.

I'm still bitter about that. I was in the minority on banners only. He just kept on going with that hyper masculine tough guy BS and got tossed cause of it and Bill took off as a result of the BS.

The Banners Only thing was interesting. I miss the posts about ham and eggers.

[Homerclease]

Bfb was on here yesterday briefly