Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money"

[Edug27]

Look at this dude trying to make pro-Smart guys on this board look bad on the GB.

Damn bro, snitching on me lol...

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

[ermocrate]

Damn bro, snitching on me lol...

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

Eric Snow

[Edug27]

It's funny because Smart fans completely acknowledge his shortcomings, just insist that he is a very valuable player. The Smart haters are the one who go to the extreme and ignore reality and stats because they don't like how he plays.

From the beginning I've said (and every Smart hater would probably agree).. His shot is broken. His offense is sickening to watch. He can pass. He's a good defender. He hustles. He has a Draymond type impact, just makes awful decisions unlike Draymond.

Do we all agree? I would think so. We actually all agree here.

[SMTBSI]

Most fans on the C's board think he's the next Kawhi. The love is real.

Edug, man, no hard feelings but, that's just not even close to true, and you know it.

If your position has merit, you got to be able to defend it without mischaracterizing your opposition.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Damn bro, snitching on me lol...

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

Show me the Kawhi comparison. Shouldn't be hard to find, because according to you, most of us think this is true.

[Feed Your Head]

It's funny because Smart fans completely acknowledge his shortcomings, just insist that he is a very valuable player. The Smart haters are the one who go to the extreme and ignore reality and stats because they don't like how he plays.

From the beginning I've said (and every Smart hater would probably agree).. His shot is broken. His offense is sickening to watch. He can pass. He's a good defender. He hustles. He has a Draymond type impact, just makes awful decisions unlike Draymond.

Do we all agree? I would think so. We actually all agree here.

I told you yesterday you're more reasonable than others about him. I think where the split happens is most Smart fans think he will shoot less and try to force less with Hayward back. Where as the Smart haters think he won't, which i mean it's possible, but I don't want to lose a player like him over that. Unless the Kings or whoever offer silly money of course.

Even as is he is a big time net positive player, imagine his value if he stays within his role more, and hits 35% of his threes. Which as I showed last night, is not as far fetched as many think.

[brackdan70]

Damn bro, snitching on me lol...

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

There really are not good comps for Smart IMO. Pretty unique player.
Not really Patrick Beverly who is a better shooter but was Smarts age when he started in the league (24).

I love Smart but am really ok with whatever happens aside from matching an offer north of 15 million per year. Really anything above 4/55 or so is probably a bad contract and turns him into negative value as a trade asset. If we match an offer like that we are keeping him for the full contract and hoping for the best.

If we let him go I am cool with that and giving Bird a shot at some of his minutes. I hope for his sake that he doesn’t end up in Sac though...also for the sake of the pick.

[Gant]

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[Edug27]

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

Eric Snow

Similar skill sets.. but Smart attempts more 3’s in a season than dude did his whole career.

[akhan786]

One more plug for looking into Wayne Ellington

[Gant]

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[truth18]

Look at this dude trying to make pro-Smart guys on this board look bad on the GB.

Damn bro, snitching on me lol... and Wait.. So I'm the one making them look bad?

Next Kawhi? Stop lying.

Damn. I have respect for Edug but this is trash. Kawhi? Lmao, bro. You're on some strange stuff as of late. You know damn well that not a single person here thinks anything like that.

[cloverleaf]

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

There really are not good comps for Smart IMO. Pretty unique player.
Not really Patrick Beverly who is a better shooter but was Smarts age when he started in the league (24).

I love Smart but am really ok with whatever happens aside from matching an offer north of 15 million per year. Really anything above 4/55 or so is probably a bad contract and turns him into negative value as a trade asset. If we match an offer like that we are keeping him for the full contract and hoping for the best.

If we let him go I am cool with that and giving Bird a shot at some of his minutes. I hope for his sake that he doesn’t end up in Sac though...also for the sake of the pick.

I think Tony Allen gives you the general dynamic, though he was a much better shooter and scorer and Smart the better passer and game savvy. (Though they've both been known for some less than clever plays.)

[truth18]

Damn bro, snitching on me lol...

Says the guy who's trying to make the Celtics board look like morons via a comparison that is not agreed upon. Couldn't take a little bit of verbal jousting with Cave so you bounced to the GB and created a lie?

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

Pippen or Wade? You are **** delusional, man.

More like Tony Allen or a MUCH, MUCH lesser Draymond (in terms of impact on wins).

Now I understand why you have been so contentious on this: you falsely believe that fans of Smart think he's some sort of superstar. Ridiculous, lol.

[celticfan42487]

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

There really are not good comps for Smart IMO. Pretty unique player.
Not really Patrick Beverly who is a better shooter but was Smarts age when he started in the league (24).

I love Smart but am really ok with whatever happens aside from matching an offer north of 15 million per year. Really anything above 4/55 or so is probably a bad contract and turns him into negative value as a trade asset. If we match an offer like that we are keeping him for the full contract and hoping for the best.

If we let him go I am cool with that and giving Bird a shot at some of his minutes. I hope for his sake that he doesn’t end up in Sac though...also for the sake of the pick.

I think Tony Allen gives you the general dynamic, though he was a much better shooter and scorer and Smart the better passer and game savvy. (Though they've both been known for some less than clever plays.)

Yeah TA is a really good comp although TA was clearly a better defender than Smart imo.

And then it just comes down to as role players do you see Smart working better or worse with stars than TA. Which for those who see him chucking constantly and dribbling the air out of the ball just to call his number or pass it with 5 seconds left think he doesn't have the mentality to take a backseat and fit in, whereas others see a guy like TA and for all his stupidity on offense he did it within the system. I guess that's a result of playing him as a SG without the ball versus Smart who has had playmaking duties asked of him. Will Smart take the backseat to Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Rozier and maybe a developing Brown or will he still chuck?

(realistically with his talent level he should be the dead last option on offense almost always. No matter who else is on the court.)

Either way no one would ever have any concerns with TA or Smart doing their job defensively. And to Smart's credit he has way better agitator abilities as well as flopping than TA ever had. Which in the regular season works to his advantage, in the playoffs against great teams I'm not sure we have an example of Smart actually flustering a great player when the lights are on and games actually matter... those guys are too good and the game is too important for them to lose their mind. (that said I could see Harden letting someone get under his skin since he just chokes when it gets tough regardless if he has a good or bad defender on him so why not **** up some more under pressure buddy)

[Big Joke Line]

Who has the money and the need other than the C's? Serious ? I'm on the record as not being a fan. No need to argue about it I read the board daily and have seen every advanced stat. My prodigious gut still tells me he jacks bricks and throws it away at the most inopportune times. $6 mill for one year I'm cool with which is looking like what he'll get. It seems there's no demand for him at this point.

[celticfan42487]

Who has the money and the need other than the C's? Serious ? I'm on the record as not being a fan. No need to argue about it I read the board daily and have seen every advanced stat. My prodigious gut still tells me he jacks bricks and throws it away at the most inopportune times. $6 mill for one year I'm cool with which is looking like what he'll get. It seems there's no demand for him at this point.

Honestly yeah basically this.

We're all RealGM posters, we've all read his fans analysis and watched his entire career. Nothing anyone is going to bring up will be a new perspective.

I could see the Kings just throwing out money at Smart... but I mean realistically these teams should be smart enough to do what the other teams in the NBA are doing.

So instead of signing Smart who isn't someone you want to waste your cap space on to a long term contract... just give him a big one year salary.

Kings have room, if they really can't get anyone else they can just throw Smart 18 mllion for one season, perserve their cap room for next season, have one year where their rookies "benefit" from Smart's "culture impact" but most importantly gets the **** out of the way next year so their young guns have the minutes they need to develop. The Kings after only maybe the Suns have endless young prospects that need minutes at every position and shouldn't waste it on stop gap role players like Smart.

[ermocrate]

Sorry. Who's a better comparison for yall then? Pippen? Maybe Wade?

Ugh. This season can't start soon enough.

Eric Snow

Similar skill sets.. but Smart attempts more 3’s in a season than dude did his whole career.

Unfortunately today's NBA seems made of 3s, Snow was a bit more mature but he feared to shot too much and was a little more exploitable than Smart due to the very low amount of talent he got surrounding him. The problems with Smart is that he is a great piece for a championship contender but a bad one for other teams, not many title contenders outthere in these silly times and for sure a ti8tle contender is not going to overpay you.

[Big Joke Line]

Who has the money and the need other than the C's? Serious ? I'm on the record as not being a fan. No need to argue about it I read the board daily and have seen every advanced stat. My prodigious gut still tells me he jacks bricks and throws it away at the most inopportune times. $6 mill for one year I'm cool with which is looking like what he'll get. It seems there's no demand for him at this point.

Honestly yeah basically this.

We're all RealGM posters, we've all read his fans analysis and watched his entire career. Nothing anyone is going to bring up will be a new perspective.

I could see the Kings just throwing out money at Smart... but I mean realistically these teams should be smart enough to do what the other teams in the NBA are doing.

So instead of signing Smart who isn't someone you want to waste your cap space on to a long term contract... just give him a big one year salary.

Kings have room, if they really can't get anyone else they can just throw Smart 18 mllion for one season, perserve their cap room for next season, have one year where their rookies "benefit" from Smart's "culture impact" but most importantly gets the **** out of the way next year so their young guns have the minutes they need to develop. The Kings after only maybe the Suns have endless young prospects that need minutes at every position and shouldn't waste it on stop gap role players like Smart.

Who is Sac's Pres/GM? If he gives Smart $16 million for one year he should be fired before the ink dries.

[Ben-N1ce]

Let him walk and low ball IT for 3 years as Kyrie insurance if they have to.