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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1281 » by batabatuta » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:55 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
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6 new vets with various roles.
Minus Kemba, Thompson, and others.
Stevens rocked the Casbah.
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Stevens did indeed rock the Casbah. All the "experts" agree.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/8/30/22642907/grading-the-boston-celtics-offseason-celticsblog-roundtable


:-? Well that's one favorable source but don't you also recall that most analysts saw our offseason at near the bottom. I don't know maybe I just more of the negative ones. Carry on

I know it shouldn't matter but I did not realize till now that PP is the only white guy on the roster.
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Post#1282 » by Dannyboy36 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:18 pm

If Danny Ainge was still GM and made the exact same moves their wouldn’t be this praise. Al was probably an Ainge move, actually. I like these moves so far and I couldn’t stand Brad as a coach, though.
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Post#1283 » by Hal14 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:12 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Stevens did indeed rock the Casbah. All the "experts" agree.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/8/30/22642907/grading-the-boston-celtics-offseason-celticsblog-roundtable


:-? Well that's one favorable source but don't you also recall that most analysts saw our offseason at near the bottom. I don't know maybe I just more of the negative ones. Carry on


Nice round table, and Smitty nails it for me: B+/A-. Getting out from under Kemba's deal while getting back a big who bring defense/passing is a big win. i was happy to see fournier go, especially at that price. resigning smart+TL to fair deals brings stability, and i like the commitment to Smart as the PG, i think that's his best spot. the one negative was i didn't understand why Jrich had to be extended now. and i don't like schroeder in general, though at that price he's great value. plus i think he hit on begarin, 1st round talent in the mid-2nd.

but the move nobody talked about was the thing I think will have the biggest impact on the C's: hiring Ime Udoka.

Ime will be a great coach, you can just tell. he has a presence, an intensity, and relates to guys in a way that brad never could. he's the kind of guy that players will run thru a wall for. and that more than anything is what we need. we are not short of talent on this team, despite our record last year; we were short on intensity and playing like every possession mattered. i get the feeling Ime is not going to stand for guys not giving 100%, whether it's our stars or our deep bench.

Nailed it, especially the part about Udoka.

I think a more casual fan would think "gee, I don't know. For the most part it seemed like Brad did a good job with the talent he had and got to the ECF 3 times. So to go from him to a guy with no head coaching experience is a downgrade"

But a more serious fan would see that over the last 2 seasons a lot of his substitutions and rotations were really questionable, the team's shot selection was really bad, especially in late game situations, we were really bad at playing with big leads, he lost control of the locker room and we needed someone with more discipline who the players respected more. We needed a new voice, cause the players. were tuning out Brad. It seemed like the players and Brad both realized that a role in the front office where Brad could use his basketball knowledge with less player interaction was for the best.

And while Udoka is inexperienced as a head coach, he's well regarded as arguably the most qualified assistant in the league, especially with olympic coaching experience and all the yrs as coach and player under Popovich. And in his interviews since taking the job, he has said all the right things (emphasis on team playing, goal is to rank much higher this year in assists, turn tatum and brown into play makers, have a tough hard nosed team that plays with an edge and plays tough defense and plays together).

And even though Udoka is inexperienced, there's been several first year head coaches who won a title recently. (Frank Vogel, Kerr, Nurse, etc.)
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Post#1284 » by sam_I_am » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:22 pm

Brad Stevens went to ECF 3 times with some of the worst talent at times in the playoffs. To argue that Ime is an upgrade is wishful thinking until he proves otherwise. ( I happen to share the wishful thinking with regard to Ime FWIW. ). We have seen players thrive here that have bombed in other situations and it is possible that Brad has squeezed more out of some of these guys than other coaches will. Brad failed badly the one season the team was loaded with big egos but our roster is now more like the ones he overachieved with.

I think a coaching change was needed but there are really big shoes to fill. I do think last years young team needed a more intense coach. Now that this team is more veteran I wonder if that is still true, and an intense coach could actually yield mixed results.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#1285 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:26 pm

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Post#1286 » by Shak_Celts » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:29 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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Tatum on that Giannis Juice!
NAME ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(!)
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Post#1287 » by bisme37 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:33 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Brad Stevens went to ECF 3 times with some of the worst talent at times in the playoffs. To argue that Ime is an upgrade is wishful thinking until he proves otherwise. ( I happen to share the wishful thinking with regard to Ime FWIW. ). We have seen players thrive here that have bombed in other situations and it is possible that Brad has squeezed more out of some of these guys than other coaches will. Brad failed badly the one season the team was loaded with big egos but our roster is now more like the ones he overachieved with.

I think a coaching change was needed but there are really big shoes to fill. I do think last years young team needed a more intense coach. Now that this team is more veteran I wonder if that is still true, and an intense coach could actually yield mixed results.


I love Brad but I think his passion for the coaching grind dimmed over time and he wasn't really inspiring the guys like he used to. He himself thought the players needed a new voice.

The players seems super pumped about Udoka. And I'm sure he and Brad will be working closely together. So I see this as a best of both worlds situation. I think the coaching change will inject new life in the team, with Brad behind the scenes helping Ime get up to speed as far as x's and o's.
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Post#1288 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:04 am

Those Tatum photos remind me of this one of Paul Pierce:

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The power of photography, lighting and Photoshop must've had something to do with them.
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Post#1289 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:22 am

That image reminds me of the ABA. Let's have the red, white and blue ball!
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Post#1290 » by GoGreen » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:27 am

Wtffffff that Tatum photo. Sure didn't look like that when pictured work Pierce, Iriza and Giles. Photoshop does wonders, me thinks
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Post#1291 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:37 am

LOL, that must be Tatum's head on Karl Malone's body.
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Post#1292 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:44 am

GoGreen wrote:Wtffffff that Tatum photo. Sure didn't look like that when pictured work Pierce, Iriza and Giles. Photoshop does wonders, me thinks


Not photoshopped, just the right combination of timing and angle. And him being pretty jacked, too lol.

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Post#1293 » by akhan786 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:01 am

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I think Tatum feels like he’s finally settled. He’s had a year where it’s truly just him being the main guy and now I feel like he’s moving as if a weight has been lifted off his shoulders.

He’s ready to take that next step into Top 5 player in the league next season imo. People don’t get that it’s a process with a talent like him. You need a couple of years and everything to click into place around him.

I hope his new coach was brought in to soothsay a season out of JT that Kobe would be impressed by.
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Post#1294 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:37 am

Tatum has borderline top 10 potential. I think he he stays in that range for the next 5-8 years. It's going to suck when he demands a trade and his truly prime years are spent elsewhere because we play veterans over more talented young guys and we don't have a true #2. Oh well, enjoy it while it lasts
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Post#1295 » by akhan786 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 2:18 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:Tatum has borderline top 10 potential. I think he he stays in that range for the next 5-8 years. It's going to suck when he demands a trade and his truly prime years are spent elsewhere because we play veterans over more talented young guys and we don't have a true #2. Oh well, enjoy it while it lasts

What qualities makeup the ideal #2 for JT? Is it a guard? A big man?

If you could pick anyone in the league, regardless of it being realistic. Is it Brad Beal? Is it Zion?
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Post#1296 » by moonie_mcgee » Wed Sep 1, 2021 3:01 am

bisme37 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Brad Stevens went to ECF 3 times with some of the worst talent at times in the playoffs. To argue that Ime is an upgrade is wishful thinking until he proves otherwise. ( I happen to share the wishful thinking with regard to Ime FWIW. ). We have seen players thrive here that have bombed in other situations and it is possible that Brad has squeezed more out of some of these guys than other coaches will. Brad failed badly the one season the team was loaded with big egos but our roster is now more like the ones he overachieved with.

I think a coaching change was needed but there are really big shoes to fill. I do think last years young team needed a more intense coach. Now that this team is more veteran I wonder if that is still true, and an intense coach could actually yield mixed results.


I love Brad but I think his passion for the coaching grind dimmed over time and he wasn't really inspiring the guys like he used to. He himself thought the players needed a new voice.

The players seems super pumped about Udoka. And I'm sure he and Brad will be working closely together. So I see this as a best of both worlds situation. I think the coaching change will inject new life in the team, with Brad behind the scenes helping Ime get up to speed as far as x's and o's.


Hopefully, and I would think so, Stevens doesn't involve himself in the coaching aspect of the team. Of course some will be inevitable but I think it'd be really important to keep mgmt and coaching apart. And I bet that'll be the case despite what we hear or read about it either way..
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Post#1297 » by Joshyjess » Wed Sep 1, 2021 3:12 am

I keep returning to this page, hoping to hear the news that the C's traded away Carsen Edwards - so far very disappointing.
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Post#1298 » by Parliament10 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:51 am

Joshyjess wrote:I keep returning to this page, hoping to hear the news that the C's traded away Carsen Edwards - so far very disappointing.

I think that he goes to Training Camp with us. We'll have up to 20 players.
I know that Dunn cannot be Aggregated in a Trade until Oct 6, 2021. Maybe Stevens is waiting for that?
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Post#1299 » by playa-hater » Wed Sep 1, 2021 6:21 am

Joshyjess wrote:I keep returning to this page, hoping to hear the news that the C's traded away Carsen Edwards - so far very disappointing.


the problem with trading Edwards is you need another team to want him..
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Post#1300 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Sep 1, 2021 11:32 am

akhan786 wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:Tatum has borderline top 10 potential. I think he he stays in that range for the next 5-8 years. It's going to suck when he demands a trade and his truly prime years are spent elsewhere because we play veterans over more talented young guys and we don't have a true #2. Oh well, enjoy it while it lasts

What qualities makeup the ideal #2 for JT? Is it a guard? A big man?

If you could pick anyone in the league, regardless of it being realistic. Is it Brad Beal? Is it Zion?



Well, obviously, it isnt that bum who just did
25ppg
6 rpg
3.5 apg
1.5 spg
.8 bpg
48%
40% from 3
24 years old.

That guys sucks ass.

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