Trade Ideas Thread

100proof · Post #1301 » by **100proof** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:25 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kemba isnt the problem guys. Bringing him off the bench makes sense given his knee, but he’s still a big positive. Were not going to trade him.

Danny will listen, but maybe not actively shop.

And Kemba was a HUGE problem against both Boston (We were able to overcome it) and Miami. They attacked him defensively.

CelticsPride18 · Post #1302 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:25 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kemba isnt the problem guys. Bringing him off the bench makes sense given his knee, but he’s still a big positive. Were not going to trade him.

I agree. He was much better when we stopped switching everything in Games 5 and 6. His net rating was absurd in the last 2 games. I think by year 3 or 4 of the contract he will be coming off the bench.

hugepatsfan · Post #1303 » by **hugepatsfan** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:05 pm

Knee jerk reaction is to put everyone on the trade block besides Tatum/Brown. But is there value in continuity? When was the last time we had year-to-year consistency? This past year it was Horford/Kyrie/Morris/Rozier out. The year before it was Hayward/Kyrie coming back from injury. The year before that it was Kyrie/Hayward joining the team. The year before that it was Horford joining.

And I'm not saying change can't work. MIA just got Butler, LAL just got AD and they're in the finals. But I do think there could be some value in continuity as well.

Post #1304 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:11 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kemba isnt the problem guys. Bringing him off the bench makes sense given his knee, but he’s still a big positive. Were not going to trade him.

Danny will listen, but maybe not actively shop.

And Kemba was a HUGE problem against both Boston (We were able to overcome it) and Miami. They attacked him defensively.

Kemba is probably going to have knee surgery this offseason from reading the tea leaves. I’m on record multiple times that we should bring him off the bench to better manage his minutes.

That said, he was still a positive overall as our offense falls off a cliff when he sits. Given how critical he is to the locker room, they’re not going to trade him. Add in the probable knee surgery? No one will want him. Its pointless to even waste space speculating elsewise.

Post #1305 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:14 pm

Given the above about Kemba [I mean, all comments about his knee in the bubble and his own after the game last night], I’m guessing Kemba needs knee surgery. Given that he didnt get it when everything shut down, I’d guess it will be a longer recovery time [3-4 months] and that he will probably miss the beginning of next season.

Finding depth will be critical going forward.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1306 » by **GoCeltics123** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:29 pm

I can't believe you guys are missing the most OBVIOUS Celtics trade target in 5+ years: Lou Williams. We need a bench scorer more than anything, and who does it better than him?

Also, his value is low after that poor Clippers run.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1307 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:31 pm

It will be interesting to see what the trade market is like this offseason. We have picks to use, but man, everyone seems like they will be trying to dump their picks too, seeing as how this draft isn't that great. Factor in Covid - teams just don't want to spend guaranteed money on a rookie, and will probably be selling picks to recoup lost revenues caused by the pandemic.

On the other side of the coin, if we are willing to spend, then maybe we can get in on teams looking to dump salaries. The rental market could be intriguing. Guys I'd be looking at:

Cody Zeller
PJ Tucker
Gorgui Deng
JJ Reddick
Steven Adams
Dennis Schroeder

100proof · Post #1308 » by **100proof** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:32 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kemba isnt the problem guys. Bringing him off the bench makes sense given his knee, but he’s still a big positive. Were not going to trade him.

Danny will listen, but maybe not actively shop.

And Kemba was a HUGE problem against both Boston (We were able to overcome it) and Miami. They attacked him defensively.

Kemba is probably going to have knee surgery this offseason from reading the tea leaves. I’m on record multiple times that we should bring him off the bench to better manage his minutes.

That said, he was still a positive overall as our offense falls off a cliff when he sits. Given how critical he is to the locker room, they’re not going to trade him. Add in the probable knee surgery? No one will want him. Its pointless to even waste space speculating elsewise.

You dont keep a player at 34 million a season to be a locker room presence and to come off the bench.

Danny will look at what is out there for him. What he brings is replaceable, and what he doesnt bring is obtainable.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1309 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:34 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:I can't believe you guys are missing the most OBVIOUS Celtics trade target in 5+ years: Lou Williams. We need a bench scorer more than anything, and who does it better than him?

Also, his value is low after that poor Clippers run.

I thought about this, but Ballmer does not give a damn about paying luxury tax. They need Lou to beat the Lakers. Clippers are more likely to be buyers, rather than sellers. If we called, it would most likely cost us Marcus Smart.

greenroom31 · Post #1310 » by **greenroom31** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:34 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:I can't believe you guys are missing the most OBVIOUS Celtics trade target in 5+ years: Lou Williams. We need a bench scorer more than anything, and who does it better than him?

Also, his value is low after that poor Clippers run.

Kemba?

Post #1311 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:51 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
Danny will listen, but maybe not actively shop.

And Kemba was a HUGE problem against both Boston (We were able to overcome it) and Miami. They attacked him defensively.

Kemba is probably going to have knee surgery this offseason from reading the tea leaves. I’m on record multiple times that we should bring him off the bench to better manage his minutes.

That said, he was still a positive overall as our offense falls off a cliff when he sits. Given how critical he is to the locker room, they’re not going to trade him. Add in the probable knee surgery? No one will want him. Its pointless to even waste space speculating elsewise.

You dont keep a player at 34 million a season to be a locker room presence and to come off the bench.

Danny will look at what is out there for him. What he brings is replaceable, and what he doesnt bring is obtainable.

And an organization thats known for being callous doesnt ditch good players because they **** up their knee during the season. This isnt NBA2K.

Post #1312 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:52 pm

greenroom31 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:I can't believe you guys are missing the most OBVIOUS Celtics trade target in 5+ years: Lou Williams. We need a bench scorer more than anything, and who does it better than him?

Also, his value is low after that poor Clippers run.

Kemba?

Kemba should be our bench scorer. Makes too much sense.

FlatearthZorro · Post #1313 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:14 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Kemba isnt the problem guys. Bringing him off the bench makes sense given his knee, but he’s still a big positive. Were not going to trade him.

At dollar we got him for, I dunno how he's a positive. He's making near superstar money and he underperformed severely in the last 2 rounds.

100proof · Post #1314 » by **100proof** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:15 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Kemba is probably going to have knee surgery this offseason from reading the tea leaves. I’m on record multiple times that we should bring him off the bench to better manage his minutes.

That said, he was still a positive overall as our offense falls off a cliff when he sits. Given how critical he is to the locker room, they’re not going to trade him. Add in the probable knee surgery? No one will want him. Its pointless to even waste space speculating elsewise.

You dont keep a player at 34 million a season to be a locker room presence and to come off the bench.

Danny will look at what is out there for him. What he brings is replaceable, and what he doesnt bring is obtainable.

And an organization thats known for being callous doesnt ditch good players because they **** up their knee during the season. This isnt NBA2K.

But they will trade one that **** up their hip during the season?

Its a business, and if there is a deal that makes the team better, then management will make the deal.

The only real debate is if there is a better deal out there to be had, not if management will or will not look to improve the team at the loss of Kemba. Kemba is not untouchable.

100proof · Post #1315 » by **100proof** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:16 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:I can't believe you guys are missing the most OBVIOUS Celtics trade target in 5+ years: Lou Williams. We need a bench scorer more than anything, and who does it better than him?

Also, his value is low after that poor Clippers run.

Kemba?

Kemba should be our bench scorer. Makes too much sense.

30 plus million for 3 years of a single bench player is atrocious.

chrisab123 · Post #1316 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 pm

Bring back Rondo. Pay him whatever he wants. Honestly thats the type of player this team needs. Make Brad earn his new deal and coach someone again who is deemed "difficult"

Post #1317 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
You dont keep a player at 34 million a season to be a locker room presence and to come off the bench.

Danny will look at what is out there for him. What he brings is replaceable, and what he doesnt bring is obtainable.

And an organization thats known for being callous doesnt ditch good players because they **** up their knee during the season. This isnt NBA2K.

But they will trade one that **** up their hip during the season?

Its a business, and if there is a deal that makes the team better, then management will make the deal.

The only real debate is if there is a better deal out there to be had, not if management will or will not look to improve the team at the loss of Kemba. Kemba is not untouchable.

They were excoriated for doing it once. What do you think would happen if they do it again?

Its just dumb, moose. Theyre not going to trade him.

Post #1318 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
greenroom31 wrote:
Kemba?

Kemba should be our bench scorer. Makes too much sense.

30 plus million for 3 years of a single bench player is atrocious.

Sunk cost, moose.

BK_2020 · Post #1319 » by **BK_2020** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:19 pm

Trade Kemba for CP3 via the Knicks.
Send Kemba to Knicks, send FRPs (26 and 30?) to OKC.
Knicks send expiring salary and a FRP to OKC.
Kemba can't run the offense, he can't even split a simple trap. He makes some shots off the dribble and tries really hard but we need an upgrade at PG so guys don't get befuddled by things like traps or zone.

Sending Kemba to New York would not be a bad look because he's from the Bronx and would be very happy to play in New York.

hugepatsfan · Post #1320 » by **hugepatsfan** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:24 pm

Kemba was an all star this year. Y'all are nuts talking about bringing him off the bench. So reactionary. You want to move him for a guy like CP3? Aight, that's different. But acting like he's some sort of terrible player is absurd. He's a top 25ish player in the game. Not saying that there aren't scenarios where it makes sense to move him but some of the reactionary hot takes are silly.