ImageImageImage

Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

Moderators: bisme37, Froob, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts, Parliament10, canman1971, shackles10, snowman

Joshyjess
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,848
And1: 8,681
Joined: Jun 20, 2018
         

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1301 » by Joshyjess » Wed Sep 1, 2021 11:42 am

playa-hater wrote:
Joshyjess wrote:I keep returning to this page, hoping to hear the news that the C's traded away Carsen Edwards - so far very disappointing.


the problem with trading Edwards is you need another team to want him..

That's where Stevens needs to step up and "convince" other teams (lie, only show Edwards' highlights, talk about his high character, what a great lockeroom presence he is...) that Edwards is worth trading for. :thumbsup:
User avatar
bisme37
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 24,477
And1: 71,374
Joined: May 24, 2014
 

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1302 » by bisme37 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 6:21 pm

moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Brad Stevens went to ECF 3 times with some of the worst talent at times in the playoffs. To argue that Ime is an upgrade is wishful thinking until he proves otherwise. ( I happen to share the wishful thinking with regard to Ime FWIW. ). We have seen players thrive here that have bombed in other situations and it is possible that Brad has squeezed more out of some of these guys than other coaches will. Brad failed badly the one season the team was loaded with big egos but our roster is now more like the ones he overachieved with.

I think a coaching change was needed but there are really big shoes to fill. I do think last years young team needed a more intense coach. Now that this team is more veteran I wonder if that is still true, and an intense coach could actually yield mixed results.


I love Brad but I think his passion for the coaching grind dimmed over time and he wasn't really inspiring the guys like he used to. He himself thought the players needed a new voice.

The players seems super pumped about Udoka. And I'm sure he and Brad will be working closely together. So I see this as a best of both worlds situation. I think the coaching change will inject new life in the team, with Brad behind the scenes helping Ime get up to speed as far as x's and o's.


Hopefully, and I would think so, Stevens doesn't involve himself in the coaching aspect of the team. Of course some will be inevitable but I think it'd be really important to keep mgmt and coaching apart. And I bet that'll be the case despite what we hear or read about it either way..


Yeah as soon as I posted that I figured a few people would have the reaction you had. I'm not saying I want Brad being some kind of puppet master coach and secretly running things. Just that he'll be there for Ime if he wants help or advice or to bounce ideas around. I mean Brad is obviously a great resource for any coach in the league, let alone a rookie coach.
Gonna miss KP but he's no Georges Niang.
User avatar
moonie_mcgee
Starter
Posts: 2,046
And1: 1,794
Joined: Mar 12, 2021
       

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1303 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Sep 2, 2021 12:27 am

bisme37 wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
I love Brad but I think his passion for the coaching grind dimmed over time and he wasn't really inspiring the guys like he used to. He himself thought the players needed a new voice.

The players seems super pumped about Udoka. And I'm sure he and Brad will be working closely together. So I see this as a best of both worlds situation. I think the coaching change will inject new life in the team, with Brad behind the scenes helping Ime get up to speed as far as x's and o's.


Hopefully, and I would think so, Stevens doesn't involve himself in the coaching aspect of the team. Of course some will be inevitable but I think it'd be really important to keep mgmt and coaching apart. And I bet that'll be the case despite what we hear or read about it either way..


Yeah as soon as I posted that I figured a few people would have the reaction you had. I'm not saying I want Brad being some kind of puppet master coach and secretly running things. Just that he'll be there for Ime if he wants help or advice or to bounce ideas around. I mean Brad is obviously a great resource for any coach in the league, let alone a rookie coach.


I couldn't have been more diplomatic and restrained in my post
That's the Way of the World
User avatar
bisme37
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 24,477
And1: 71,374
Joined: May 24, 2014
 

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1304 » by bisme37 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 12:41 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
Hopefully, and I would think so, Stevens doesn't involve himself in the coaching aspect of the team. Of course some will be inevitable but I think it'd be really important to keep mgmt and coaching apart. And I bet that'll be the case despite what we hear or read about it either way..


Yeah as soon as I posted that I figured a few people would have the reaction you had. I'm not saying I want Brad being some kind of puppet master coach and secretly running things. Just that he'll be there for Ime if he wants help or advice or to bounce ideas around. I mean Brad is obviously a great resource for any coach in the league, let alone a rookie coach.


I couldn't have been more diplomatic and restrained in my post


Agreed. I wasn't complaining about your reply to me. I was trying to say when I posted my original comment I quickly realized it potentially sounded like I was wanting Brad to have more of a coaching presence than I really intended. And I figured a few people would disagree with me. Just thinking out loud I guess, sorry for being confusing.
Gonna miss KP but he's no Georges Niang.
User avatar
moonie_mcgee
Starter
Posts: 2,046
And1: 1,794
Joined: Mar 12, 2021
       

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1305 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:13 am

bisme37 wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
Yeah as soon as I posted that I figured a few people would have the reaction you had. I'm not saying I want Brad being some kind of puppet master coach and secretly running things. Just that he'll be there for Ime if he wants help or advice or to bounce ideas around. I mean Brad is obviously a great resource for any coach in the league, let alone a rookie coach.


I couldn't have been more diplomatic and restrained in my post


Agreed. I wasn't complaining about your reply to me. I was trying to say when I posted my original comment I quickly realized it potentially sounded like I was wanting Brad to have more of a coaching presence than I really intended. And I figured a few people would disagree with me. Just thinking out loud I guess, sorry for being confusing.


No worries mate. You made a good point. There has to be some risk like you say when the headcoach moves to the front office.
That's the Way of the World
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 18,690
And1: 16,080
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1306 » by Fierce1 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 12:59 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=20
User avatar
Fierce1
RealGM
Posts: 18,690
And1: 16,080
Joined: Jan 31, 2021
   

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1307 » by Fierce1 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 1:00 pm

Looks like we have our PF.
User avatar
GoCeltics123
RealGM
Posts: 17,387
And1: 33,227
Joined: May 05, 2015
         

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1308 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:37 pm

"While it appears unlikely Graham, Peterson or Fields joins Boston's front office at this juncture, Celtics vice president Allison Feaster continues to be mentioned as a candidate to be named Stevens' general manager, sources said. Feaster has a decade of on-court experience in the WNBA and overseas, and sources said she easily relates with players. She was the only Celtics figure aside from Stevens and team governors to conduct Boston's head coaching interviews."


Per Jake Fischer
User avatar
zoyathedestroya
RealGM
Posts: 41,114
And1: 98,238
Joined: Nov 05, 2017

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1309 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:48 pm

Read on Twitter

Bold choice making Hauser the face of the franchise.
Theocy
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,547
And1: 1,446
Joined: Aug 27, 2017
 

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1310 » by Theocy » Fri Sep 3, 2021 12:42 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

Bold choice making Hauser the face of the franchise.



Why am i seeing Gordon Hayward ? :lol:
Curmudgeon
RealGM
Posts: 41,427
And1: 24,947
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1311 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Sep 3, 2021 2:05 pm

LOL, Hauser is certainly the face of the Maine Celtics, since we have absolutely no idea who else will be on that roster.
"Numbers lie alot. Wins and losses don't lie." - Jerry West
"You are what your record says you are."- Bill Parcells
"Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. Rebounding wins championships." Pat Summit
snowman
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 2,425
And1: 2,791
Joined: Jun 08, 2009
     

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1312 » by snowman » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:05 pm

I can see Hayward as Hauser's ceiling. Both 6'8, both 3 pt shooters. Hauser would need to be a better ball handler and playmaker, but I could see it.


edit:
Would love to see him coming off the bench as a back up 3, when Nesmith moves to starting line up next season.
GoGreen
Analyst
Posts: 3,050
And1: 3,487
Joined: Jul 19, 2017
 

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1313 » by GoGreen » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:18 pm

Is there an updated g league roster floating around anywhere?
makubesu
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,717
And1: 2,219
Joined: Jun 26, 2017
       

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1314 » by makubesu » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:59 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Alas the Dunn sticky is gone when we really needed it
User avatar
zoyathedestroya
RealGM
Posts: 41,114
And1: 98,238
Joined: Nov 05, 2017

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1315 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:16 pm

Read on Twitter
GoGreen
Analyst
Posts: 3,050
And1: 3,487
Joined: Jul 19, 2017
 

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1316 » by GoGreen » Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:18 pm

makubesu wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

Alas the Dunn sticky is gone when we really needed it


HOLY SH*T

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO. Great, great, great move!! GM Stevens does it again! FANTASTIC offseason!

We got ourselves a roster!
bmathieu5
Ballboy
Posts: 7
And1: 13
Joined: Aug 05, 2021
       

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1317 » by bmathieu5 » Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:52 pm

GoGreen wrote:
makubesu wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

Alas the Dunn sticky is gone when we really needed it


HOLY SH*T

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO. Great, great, great move!! GM Stevens does it again! FANTASTIC offseason!

We got ourselves a roster!



I didn't think that we were going to be able to flip Carsen for anything. To me his size and lack of athleticism prohibited him from excelling in the NBA. Glad to get a solid player in Hernangomez!
Gomes3PC
General Manager
Posts: 7,701
And1: 3,752
Joined: Feb 10, 2006

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1318 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Sep 3, 2021 6:31 pm

snowman wrote:I can see Hayward as Hauser's ceiling. Both 6'8, both 3 pt shooters. Hauser would need to be a better ball handler and playmaker, but I could see it.


edit:
Would love to see him coming off the bench as a back up 3, when Nesmith moves to starting line up next season.

Just, no. Hauser has none of Hayward's lateral agility, whether it is defensively or with the ball in his hands. His upside would be something closer to Davis Bertans.
Gomes3PC
General Manager
Posts: 7,701
And1: 3,752
Joined: Feb 10, 2006

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1319 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Sep 3, 2021 6:36 pm

As for the Juancho trade, it's a half step back talent wise, but for the right reasons. Dunn is just a better piece, but didn't have a role on this team given the guard depth. We needed to free up a roster spot. And we needed help at PF. This deal solves all those issues, at the expense of giving up a bit on the talent side.

Juancho at least gives us a different option from Grant (defensive-minded, undersized) and Jabari (score-first) for those gap minutes we will need when Tatum isn't playing PF. Is he good? No, he is not good. We don't want him playing more than 10-15 MPG even in the best-case scenario. But in that role, he can at least space the floor, grab rebounds, and keep the ball moving.
Fencer reregistered
RealGM
Posts: 40,988
And1: 27,857
Joined: Oct 25, 2006

Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1320 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Sep 3, 2021 7:09 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:As for the Juancho trade, it's a half step back talent wise, but for the right reasons. Dunn is just a better piece, but didn't have a role on this team given the guard depth. We needed to free up a roster spot. And we needed help at PF. This deal solves all those issues, at the expense of giving up a bit on the talent side.

Juancho at least gives us a different option from Grant (defensive-minded, undersized) and Jabari (score-first) for those gap minutes we will need when Tatum isn't playing PF. Is he good? No, he is not good. We don't want him playing more than 10-15 MPG even in the best-case scenario. But in that role, he can at least space the floor, grab rebounds, and keep the ball moving.


Where does this seem to leave us with respect to the luxury tax?
Banned temporarily for, among other sins, being "Extremely Deviant".

Return to Boston Celtics