Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[CelticFaninLBC]

Seems OKC will try to use their assets (Lamb, Jackson, Roberson, Jones, Dallas pick) to get someone like Aaron Affalo. Maybe Boston gets involved to help facilitate, as I doubt Orlando will want Perkins...

Perkins and Lamb to Boston, Afflalo and Bayless to OKC, Keith Bogans, and Crawford to Orlando. Would OKC do it?

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lamb/Brooks
Green/Wallace/Bogans
Sullinger/Bass/Humphries
Perkins/Olynyk/Faverani

Afflalo's averaging 21 ppg on 42% shooting from 3, and is signed through 2015-16, @ $7.5 million per year, so he's pretty ideal for a cap conscious team like OKC... So OKC probably has to give up something like Reggie Jackson, their Dallas pick and a future 1st round pick to get Afflalo...

Maybe something like this works:

OKC Gets: Afflalo, Crawford (replaces Jackson as 6th man/instant offense) & Faverani (shaves $2 million of Boston's 2014-15 cap)
Boston Gets: Perk & Lamb
Orlando Gets: Bogans, Jackson, Dallas Pick and future pick from OKC

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Seems OKC will try to use their assets (Lamb, Jackson, Roberson, Jones, Dallas pick) to get someone like Aaron Affalo. Maybe Boston gets involved to help facilitate, as I doubt Orlando will want Perkins...

Perkins and Lamb to Boston, Afflalo and Bayless to OKC, Keith Bogans, and Crawford to Orlando. Would OKC do it?

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lamb/Brooks
Green/Wallace/Bogans
Sullinger/Bass/Humphries
Perkins/Olynyk/Faverani

Afflalo's averaging 21 ppg on 42% shooting from 3, and is signed through 2015-16, @ $7.5 million per year, so he's pretty ideal for a cap conscious team like OKC... So OKC probably has to give up something like Reggie Jackson, their Dallas pick and a future 1st round pick to get Afflalo...

Maybe something like this works:

OKC Gets: Afflalo, Crawford (replaces Jackson as 6th man/instant offense) & Faverani (shaves $2 million of Boston's 2014-15 cap)
Boston Gets: Perk & Lamb
Orlando Gets: Bogans, Jackson, Dallas Pick and future pick from OKC

With Westbrook's season potentially in limbo, OKC isn't trading Jackson unless they are getting a real point guard in return. Jackson is much more important than just a sixth man to the Thunder right now.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Perkins and Lamb to Boston, Afflalo and Bayless to OKC, Keith Bogans, and Crawford to Orlando. Would OKC do it?

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lamb/Brooks
Green/Wallace/Bogans
Sullinger/Bass/Humphries
Perkins/Olynyk/Faverani

Afflalo's averaging 21 ppg on 42% shooting from 3, and is signed through 2015-16, @ $7.5 million per year, so he's pretty ideal for a cap conscious team like OKC... So OKC probably has to give up something like Reggie Jackson, their Dallas pick and a future 1st round pick to get Afflalo...

Maybe something like this works:

OKC Gets: Afflalo, Crawford (replaces Jackson as 6th man/instant offense) & Faverani (shaves $2 million of Boston's 2014-15 cap)
Boston Gets: Perk & Lamb
Orlando Gets: Bogans, Jackson, Dallas Pick and future pick from OKC

With Westbrook's season potentially in limbo, OKC isn't trading Jackson unless they are getting a real point guard in return. Jackson is much more important than just a sixth man to the Thunder right now.

They aren't winning anything, if Westbrook's out, and Jackson hits free agency in 2015. They'll have to move him soon just like the Clippers moved Eric Bledsoe.

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Afflalo's averaging 21 ppg on 42% shooting from 3, and is signed through 2015-16, @ $7.5 million per year, so he's pretty ideal for a cap conscious team like OKC... So OKC probably has to give up something like Reggie Jackson, their Dallas pick and a future 1st round pick to get Afflalo...

Maybe something like this works:

OKC Gets: Afflalo, Crawford (replaces Jackson as 6th man/instant offense) & Faverani (shaves $2 million of Boston's 2014-15 cap)
Boston Gets: Perk & Lamb
Orlando Gets: Bogans, Jackson, Dallas Pick and future pick from OKC

With Westbrook's season potentially in limbo, OKC isn't trading Jackson unless they are getting a real point guard in return. Jackson is much more important than just a sixth man to the Thunder right now.

They aren't winning anything, if Westbrook's out, and Jackson hits free agency in 2015. They'll have to move him soon just like the Clippers moved Eric Bledsoe.

I highly doubt OKC is going to have a "we aren't winning anything" attitude, especially if they are also sending out Lamb whom are they very high on. There is a very good chance Lamb ends up being better than Afflalo.

[24istheLAW]

I highly doubt OKC is going to have a "we aren't winning anything" attitude, especially if they are also sending out Lamb whom are they very high on. There is a very good chance Lamb ends up being better than Afflalo.

Yeah, Lamb is (or should be) untouchable.

But Roberson? I would think a Humphries for Perkins swap could shake him loose. They could very well be winning things so Humphries would help their cause. They get a better player and the salary space back to resign Sefolosha. Which would make it harder to find minutes for Roberson long term anyway.

OKC can just amnesty Perkins if they want to they certainly aren't going to throw away good cheap young players to get rid of him.

They can't amnesty him. They'd have to pay him still. Had they been willing to go that route, wouldn't it have happened by now? They have Westbrook, Jackson and Lamb, plus Sefolosha who you can resign this way. Surely a 5th guard (Roberson) isn't so important as to preclude the double whammy of getting a better big man and cap space?

[Slartibartfast]

I'm just happy the Cavs went for Deng instead of Pau so I can keep my Pau trade fantasies alive!

Come on Lakers, Pau for Hump, Bogans and Faverani. Heck we'll even throw in Bayless for Blake as a side deal.

If Ainge DOES decide to be a buyer, I would love Pau Gasol.

I'm gonna throw this up on the main board for giggles.

Pau as a free agent would be ok too, if the Lakers are asking for real assets for him.

If we dump Bass for expirings, we could offer Pau something like 3/$36.

[BleedGreen1989]

I'm just happy the Cavs went for Deng instead of Pau so I can keep my Pau trade fantasies alive!

Come on Lakers, Pau for Hump, Bogans and Faverani. Heck we'll even throw in Bayless for Blake as a side deal.

If Ainge DOES decide to be a buyer, I would love Pau Gasol.

I'm gonna throw this up on the main board for giggles.

Pau as a free agent would be ok too, if the Lakers are asking for real assets for him.

If we dump Bass for expirings, we could offer Pau something like 3/$36.

Eh, I wouldn't love him that much lol.

Most I would likely offer is 3/$24mill.

[KJandHondo35]

I highly doubt OKC is going to have a "we aren't winning anything" attitude, especially if they are also sending out Lamb whom are they very high on. There is a very good chance Lamb ends up being better than Afflalo.

Yeah, Lamb is (or should be) untouchable.

But Roberson? I would think a Humphries for Perkins swap could shake him loose. They could very well be winning things so Humphries would help their cause. They get a better player and the salary space back to resign Sefolosha. Which would make it harder to find minutes for Roberson long term anyway.

OKC can just amnesty Perkins if they want to they certainly aren't going to throw away good cheap young players to get rid of him.

They can't amnesty him. They'd have to pay him still. Had they been willing to go that route, wouldn't it have happened by now? They have Westbrook, Jackson and Lamb, plus Sefolosha who you can resign this way. Surely a 5th guard (Roberson) isn't so important as to preclude the double whammy of getting a better big man and cap space?

Is there a scenario where were we get Perry Jones III bc that would be awesome... Huge man crush on that guy.

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[KGboss]

based on what Mr. Simmons?

[CelticFaninLBC]

I highly doubt OKC is going to have a "we aren't winning anything" attitude, especially if they are also sending out Lamb whom are they very high on. There is a very good chance Lamb ends up being better than Afflalo.

Bottom line is that Afflalo gets OKC closer to a title than Jackson.

[greenpierce]

I'm selling on Jeff Green. As a dream trade, if they could send him and Bass out to Charlotte for Gordon (expiring) and Kidd-Gilchrist I'd be a happy guy.
Then Gordon, Bayless, Humphries, Crawford, Brooks, and Bogans will all clear the books this summer. You'd use the stretch provision on Wallace and cut him. All that'd be left would be Rondo, Kidd-Gilchrist, Sullinger, Faverani, and Olynyk. Bradley is a RFA. Ainge takes the two 1st rounders, and all that wonderful cash and makes the best team possible.

[KJandHondo35]

I highly doubt OKC is going to have a "we aren't winning anything" attitude, especially if they are also sending out Lamb whom are they very high on. There is a very good chance Lamb ends up being better than Afflalo.

Bottom line is that Afflalo gets OKC closer to a title than Jackson.

Yeah I think OKC would have to go after Afflalo is there was any possibility of getting him... What 1-4 is better than Westbrook-Afflalo- Durant- Ibaka? None and makes them easy title contenders the next 3 years.

[shawn unkempt]

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All this talk about Hayward is silly. He's basically a worse version of Jeff Green that wants more money.

[KJandHondo35]

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All this talk about Hayward is silly. He's basically a worse version of Jeff Green that wants more money.

Thank you! So bad, I don't know why anyone rooting for Celtics success is wanting him to be on this team. He's not good and doesn't even have defense to rest on making up for his horrendous offensive %s.

[CelticFaninLBC]

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All this talk about Hayward is silly. He's basically a worse version of Jeff Green that wants more money.

Thank you! So bad, I don't know why anyone rooting for Celtics success is wanting him to be on this team. He's not good and doesn't even have defense to rest on making up for his horrendous offensive %s.

Seems Hayward's shooting went downhill after Utah gutted their team last summer. He was a 5 win shares player the past 2 years. He has heated up lately though.

[KJandHondo35]

All this talk about Hayward is silly. He's basically a worse version of Jeff Green that wants more money.

Thank you! So bad, I don't know why anyone rooting for Celtics success is wanting him to be on this team. He's not good and doesn't even have defense to rest on making up for his horrendous offensive %s.

Seems Hayward's shooting went downhill after Utah gutted their teams last summer. He was a 5 win shares player the past 2 years. He has heated up lately.

Since they got a ROY caliber PG his %s has gone down compared to when he was the primary ball handler and SG/scorer... Those last 24 games Trey Burke has played Hayward has shot 38% FG and 28% from 3?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Thank you! So bad, I don't know why anyone rooting for Celtics success is wanting him to be on this team. He's not good and doesn't even have defense to rest on making up for his horrendous offensive %s.

Seems Hayward's shooting went downhill after Utah gutted their teams last summer. He was a 5 win shares player the past 2 years. He has heated up lately.

Since they got a ROY caliber PG his %s has gone down compared to when he was the primary ball handler and SG/scorer... Those last 24 games Trey Burke has played Hayward has shot 38% FG and 28% from 3?

I was looking @ his last 7 games... Hayward was a 40% 3 point shooter prior to this year fwiw...

[24istheLAW]

Hayward and Green are very different players.

Hayward:
AST% - 23.4
TOV% - 13.6
TRB% - 8.3

Green
AST% - 7.8
TOV% - 11.8
TRB% - 7.7

Hayward is a playmaker and has a very high BBIQ. Green's BBIQ is nonexistent as we all know. On the other hand, Green defends small forwards at a great level, while Hayward isn't much of a defender once you get past steals and blocks (he blocks more shots than Green).

The real concern with Hayward is that he's shooting .309 from 3-pt range this year. He shot .400 in his first three years so there's cause for optimism. But unless he's going to that %age back up, investing in him to be an offense-first wing is a non starter.

[KJandHondo35]

Seems Hayward's shooting went downhill after Utah gutted their teams last summer. He was a 5 win shares player the past 2 years. He has heated up lately.

Since they got a ROY caliber PG his %s has gone down compared to when he was the primary ball handler and SG/scorer... Those last 24 games Trey Burke has played Hayward has shot 38% FG and 28% from 3?

I was looking @ his last 7 games... Hayward was a 40% 3 point shooter prior to this year fwiw...

Well if he can somehow resurrect his abysmal shooting numbers that will be one thing, but as of right now he is one of the least efficient guards in the NBA. He also plays close to no defense so he has to do A LOT to show me he's even close to the level of Avery who is a guy i think they need to improve on. From every statistical standpoint Hayward is worse than everyone currently on the Cs roster which isn't so good... The idea of overpaying him to steal him from Utah makes me nauseous.