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batabatuta wrote:Is anyone going to talk about PP's 92 point game in Portland which was his reason for leaving Summer League LOL.
Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:My boy Juhann is gonna be good. 2 games in a row now he's done that little crossover dribble into a pull-up jumper from just inisde the arc on the left wing.
People don't realize, that's a pretty elite move to make something out of nothing and create offense off the dribble and hit a shot like that...for a dude who just turned 19, with his frame and athleticism. He actually did it twice tonight, too - the crossover dribble into a smooth jumper from the 18 foot range.
He's a year away. It'll be interesting to see if we have him go back to his France team (which is moving up from the B division to A) or give him a 2-way contract. But either way it'll be interesting to watch his progress. By 2022-2023 season he'll be ready to contribute for the big club
He had a play towards the end of the game where he got the all on the fat break and really turned the jets on. He has the extra gear he can get to, like a running back who all of a sudden gets this burst.
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
Fencer reregistered wrote:Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
Russell Westbrook with defense would be a nice player. As a bonus, he might have a Frenchman's fashion sense.
Hal14 wrote:return2glory wrote:Hal14 wrote:My boy Juhann is gonna be good. 2 games in a row now he's done that little crossover dribble into a pull-up jumper from just inisde the arc on the left wing.
People don't realize, that's a pretty elite move to make something out of nothing and create offense off the dribble and hit a shot like that...for a dude who just turned 19, with his frame and athleticism. He actually did it twice tonight, too - the crossover dribble into a smooth jumper from the 18 foot range.
He's a year away. It'll be interesting to see if we have him go back to his France team (which is moving up from the B division to A) or give him a 2-way contract. But either way it'll be interesting to watch his progress. By 2022-2023 season he'll be ready to contribute for the big club
He had a play towards the end of the game where he got the all on the fat break and really turned the jets on. He has the extra gear he can get to, like a running back who all of a sudden gets this burst.
He won't be getting much playing time on this current roster if we brought him over next season.
Is there a reason why you think "this current roster" is going to be the same roster we have a year from now? lol
You do realize our plan, right? The reason why Brad is bringin on of these guys (Schroder, Kanter, Richardson, etc.) for 1 yr deals, right?
So we can clear a bunch of these dudes off the roster, then sign a max contract free agent like Bradley Beal.
That will leave like 5 open roster spots, so a yr from now it'll make much more sense to have Begarin and Madar on this roster..
Parliament10 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Parliament10 wrote:
man when I heard this
so many thoughts... here goes.
1- PP left the summer league to get more reps... mission accomplished.
2 - No way in hell Smart and or Schroder get 92 points in any Pro- Am game.
3 - how the hell was he granted permission to leave for this??? do they have DRUG dealers he made a promise to in Portland??
4 - PP risking our summer title for this??? Fire all coaches and Brad Stevens for this!!!
5 - Meet our new starting PG in PP.
6 - Beal and 4 1sts and 3 swaps.. maybe..... NO...
7 - is he coming back for the Chip on Tuesday??
8 - last but not least, is the full game or highlights available??
Parliament10 wrote:playa-hater wrote:Parliament10 wrote:
man when I heard this
so many thoughts... here goes.
1- PP left the summer league to get more reps... mission accomplished.
2 - No way in hell Smart and or Schroder get 92 points in any Pro- Am game.
3 - how the hell was he granted permission to leave for this??? do they have DRUG dealers he made a promise to in Portland??
4 - PP risking our summer title for this??? Fire all coaches and Brad Stevens for this!!!
5 - Meet our new starting PG in PP.
6 - Beal and 4 1sts and 3 swaps.. maybe..... NO...
7 - is he coming back for the Chip on Tuesday??
8 - last but not least, is the full game or highlights available??
31to6 wrote:I’m glad Romeo feels good about his summer league performance, but two dunks and one clutch corner 3 aside, I haven’t been impressed.
Lol @ PP scoring 92. Can we please stop talking about IT’s 81 now?
Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:My boy Juhann is gonna be good. 2 games in a row now he's done that little crossover dribble into a pull-up jumper from just inisde the arc on the left wing.
People don't realize, that's a pretty elite move to make something out of nothing and create offense off the dribble and hit a shot like that...for a dude who just turned 19, with his frame and athleticism. He actually did it twice tonight, too - the crossover dribble into a smooth jumper from the 18 foot range.
He's a year away. It'll be interesting to see if we have him go back to his France team (which is moving up from the B division to A) or give him a 2-way contract. But either way it'll be interesting to watch his progress. By 2022-2023 season he'll be ready to contribute for the big club
He had a play towards the end of the game where he got the all on the fat break and really turned the jets on. He has the extra gear he can get to, like a running back who all of a sudden gets this burst.
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
He looks like a completely different player in that video! Kid has really put on some weight. He also looks a hell of a lot slower nowadays. Both reasons why I considered him at the 4. Idk where he'll end up, still really young, I suppose we'll see but if he can't regain that quickness, he just looks too damn slow to me to be a 1-3. Not to mention his length is perfect for the 4.
Parliament10 wrote:When is that Pro-Am Tournament done?
Can we get Pritchard back by Tuesday, for the Vegas Championship?
Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:My boy Juhann is gonna be good. 2 games in a row now he's done that little crossover dribble into a pull-up jumper from just inisde the arc on the left wing.
People don't realize, that's a pretty elite move to make something out of nothing and create offense off the dribble and hit a shot like that...for a dude who just turned 19, with his frame and athleticism. He actually did it twice tonight, too - the crossover dribble into a smooth jumper from the 18 foot range.
He's a year away. It'll be interesting to see if we have him go back to his France team (which is moving up from the B division to A) or give him a 2-way contract. But either way it'll be interesting to watch his progress. By 2022-2023 season he'll be ready to contribute for the big club
He had a play towards the end of the game where he got the all on the fat break and really turned the jets on. He has the extra gear he can get to, like a running back who all of a sudden gets this burst.
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:GoGreen wrote:
Seeing a lot of people say he's a 2/3 but I look at him as way more of a 4. What do you think?
Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
Lemme throw this at ya. Crowder has never been quick, but he can shoot and he's tough. His rebounding is not particularly impressive, but I haven't checked the numbers. Dude played an effective role at the 4 with the Suns.
Begarin in his younger days is a totally different player, but he doesn't look to have that speed at all anymore, he's bulked up and will only keep growing at this age. Assuming he doesn't makes an effort to shed weight and just continues to bulk, what say you on a Crowder/Begarin comp?
LewisnotMiller wrote:batabatuta wrote:Is anyone going to talk about PP's 92 point game in Portland which was his reason for leaving Summer League LOL.
Man, you'd never see ME settling for 92, what with 100 being so clearly on the horizon.
Literally. You'd never see me settling for 92. Or 82. Or 72, or 62, 52, 42....
22, maybe.
That's a lot of buckets folks.
I scored 32 twice and I didn't want to come out. PP is like a different player right now. Confidence through the roof and it's showing. Can't wait to see him this season. Truly hope this season is a revenge tour with all those horrible losses last year. Roll it! playa-hater wrote:GoGreen wrote:Hal14 wrote:Never thought of him as a 4 because he posted a pretty low rebounding % last season in France. To be a 4 in the NBA you're ideally at an 11% rebounding rate...definitely gotta be at least 10%. Begarin wasn't close to that. Meanwhile Begarin was bringing the ball up a decent amount in France and at the G-league elite camp and also has posted a good assist rate which leads me to believe he's closer to a 1 than a 4.
And this video they say he's the French Russell Westbrook:
So yeah, I think he might look more like a 4 only cause he has put some weight on recently. Some sites list him at 192 lbs but at the g-league elite camp in July he came in at 214 lbs. So I think during this past season he put on 22 lbs. The russell westbrook comparison video was definitely before he gained the 22 lbs.
So I think if he can slim back down, he'll look more likely a wing than a 4.. I mean, look how fast he looks in the video here. I am hoping he gets to about 195-200 lbs which could be a happy medium where he loses enough weight to get hat speed back, but also keeps enough weight to have some strength.
Lemme throw this at ya. Crowder has never been quick, but he can shoot and he's tough. His rebounding is not particularly impressive, but I haven't checked the numbers. Dude played an effective role at the 4 with the Suns.
Begarin in his younger days is a totally different player, but he doesn't look to have that speed at all anymore, he's bulked up and will only keep growing at this age. Assuming he doesn't makes an effort to shed weight and just continues to bulk, what say you on a Crowder/Begarin comp?
Very good comp for me. more creative upside in JB though. This team could use a Crowder type IMO.