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Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2

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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1321 » by Fierce1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:25 pm

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Bar Fight wrote:It helps that Kyrie and Luka are better shotmakers than JT/JB

Kyrie and Luka better shot makers?

One thing's for sure, JT/JB better team players.

Yeah...that didn't seem to help us very much vs Denver.

Look at the big picture.

One loss to Denver does not define the Celtics' season.
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Post#1322 » by Fierce1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:30 pm

One lucky hook shot with the left hand at the FT line didn't end Denver's season.

Defining an entire season based on one game is being short-sighted.

What the Jays do for an entire season does not get washed away just because they lost to Denver.
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1323 » by Bar Fight » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:41 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Kyrie and Luka better shot makers?

One thing's for sure, JT/JB better team players.

Yeah...that didn't seem to help us very much vs Denver.

Look at the big picture.

One loss to Denver does not define the Celtics' season.

Didn't say it "defined the season" lol. We're talking about crunch time play against arguably the best team in the league in those situations. Those moments matter, especially in the Playoffs. We're going to have to be MUCH better if we see Denver again.
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1324 » by playa-hater » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:12 pm

Why is there even an argument on this.. As much as I hate Luka and Kyrie, Clearly they are better crunch time finishers over our jays...

Kyrie Hit one of the biggest shots in NBA history on the pressure for a title..

Both Jays are easily better all around 2 way players..
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Post#1325 » by brackdan70 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:26 pm

playa-hater wrote:Why is there even an argument on this.. As much as I hate Luka and Kyrie, Clearly they are better crunch time finishers over our jays...

Kyrie Hit one of the biggest shots in NBA history on the pressure for a title..

Both Jays are easily better all around 2 way players..

Kyrie also literally gave up more than once when it mattered most.
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Post#1326 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:28 pm

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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1327 » by Fierce1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:51 pm

Bar Fight wrote:
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Bar Fight wrote:Yeah...that didn't seem to help us very much vs Denver.

Look at the big picture.

One loss to Denver does not define the Celtics' season.

Didn't say it "defined the season" lol. We're talking about crunch time play against arguably the best team in the league in those situations. Those moments matter, especially in the Playoffs. We're going to have to be MUCH better if we see Denver again.

The issue was about who's the better shot makers.

It wasn't about who's better in the clutch or crunch time.

All I said was the Jays are better team players.

Better shot makers vs. Better team players

No mention of beating Denver or crunch time.
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Post#1328 » by Fierce1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:54 pm

Some of you guys are having tunnel vision.

There was never any mention of the Jays being the better shot makers.
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Post#1329 » by Bar Fight » Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:32 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Look at the big picture.

One loss to Denver does not define the Celtics' season.

Didn't say it "defined the season" lol. We're talking about crunch time play against arguably the best team in the league in those situations. Those moments matter, especially in the Playoffs. We're going to have to be MUCH better if we see Denver again.

The issue was about who's the better shot makers.

It wasn't about who's better in the clutch or crunch time.

All I said was the Jays are better team players.

Better shot makers vs. Better team players

No mention of beating Denver or crunch time.

So you relied to me with a point completely irrelevant to my post?
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Post#1330 » by Parliament10 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:29 pm

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Post#1331 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:04 pm

Are division winners currently guaranteed first-round home court?

I ask because the top 3 teams in the West are all in the same division.
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Post#1332 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 pm

Besides having the best record in the league, the Cs have the best home and road records alike.

One split where they're not #1, if I did the math correctly, is record against the Western Conference, where they're second to Minny. However, a fairer comparison would be to compare records vs. West-minus-Minny, in which case we're marginally ahead of them.
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Post#1333 » by bisme37 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Are division winners currently guaranteed first-round home court?

I ask because the top 3 teams in the West are all in the same division.


No it's just top 4 in the conference standings that get homecourt in the 1st round. Although I think division record is one of the tie breakers in the event of a tie, along with head-to-head wins.
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Post#1334 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:18 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Why is there even an argument on this.. As much as I hate Luka and Kyrie, Clearly they are better crunch time finishers over our jays...

Kyrie Hit one of the biggest shots in NBA history on the pressure for a title..

Both Jays are easily better all around 2 way players..

Kyrie also literally gave up more than once when it mattered most.

Kyrie and Luka will be out in the 2nd round, why is anyone talking about them at all?
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Post#1335 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:25 pm

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Pity we aren't as **** as Dallas or LA so we can get more practice in the clutch.

I guess we'll just have to blow teams out in the playoffs instead.
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1336 » by Fierce1 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:31 pm

Bar Fight wrote:
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Bar Fight wrote:Didn't say it "defined the season" lol. We're talking about crunch time play against arguably the best team in the league in those situations. Those moments matter, especially in the Playoffs. We're going to have to be MUCH better if we see Denver again.

The issue was about who's the better shot makers.

It wasn't about who's better in the clutch or crunch time.

All I said was the Jays are better team players.

Better shot makers vs. Better team players

No mention of beating Denver or crunch time.

So you relied to me with a point completely irrelevant to my post?

Not exactly.

You said Kyrie and Luka are better shot makers.

I didn't disagree.

My reply was the Jays are better team players.
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1337 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:37 am

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playa-hater wrote:Why is there even an argument on this.. As much as I hate Luka and Kyrie, Clearly they are better crunch time finishers over our jays...

Kyrie Hit one of the biggest shots in NBA history on the pressure for a title..

Both Jays are easily better all around 2 way players..

Kyrie also literally gave up more than once when it mattered most.

Kyrie and Luka will be out in the 2nd round, why is anyone talking about them at all?


Yes, Kyrie made a good shot once, with about a minute to play, after missing others shortly before it.

The Judas Shuttleworth shot for Miami it was not, but it was pretty good.
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1338 » by Fierce1 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:01 am

Miami can't even beat a Sixer team without Embiid?
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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2023-24, Part 2 

Post#1339 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:30 am

Bar Fight wrote:Mavs showing us how it's done in terms of crunch time against the Nuggets

Step 1: Get a 9 point lead with 4:30 to go.
Step 2: Proceed to blow said lead.
Step 3: Throw up a garbage shot at the buzzer.
Step 4: Hope it goes in.
Why didn't anybody think of this before ?
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