Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jalen Smith seems like someone destined for Daniel Theis money, a little more if he improves on his recent play and less if he doesn't. I don't see him going to anyone who can offer more than the MLE. So it's just a question of whether you want to match MLE offers.

Weird wording by Fisher, Boston "is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason": are we trying to stay under the tax next year, too?

[Half-Full]

OKC is way under the cap, JH and 1-2 second rounders into their cap space? Could add Nesmith and take back one of their cheaper young guys too.. Theo Maledon? Or you could try to get Mike Muscala, depends on Aaron's value.

Maledon has played well against us. I don't know where he fits in OKC's plans, or if the Celtics have any interest at all, but considering the Thunder have Josh Giddey and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander ahead of him, maybe he is available. Could be an interesting pick up.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Remember Hield sucks defensively - his defensive rating this year is a career low, I think - and he's getting paid to shoot 43 percent from 3, not 38.

Our team defense can support the tradeoff IMO and the spacing he would provide would be such a benefit to the Jay's. The boost in efficiency he would add on offense would allow to set up our defense after a made basket more often. Again, only 3 players have hit more 3's off the catch this year than him. He is prolific at what he does.

He's been trending down as a shooter for three years - is it just because he's upped his volume?

Eric Gordon would cost less and I think his deal's shorter, he's at 45 percent from range this year. Barnes is 42 percent. Doug Mcdermott costs less in assets and in dollars, I'd even gamble on Coby White over Hield.

Buddy has name recognition and if he were hitting 42 percent, he'd have a lot of gravity. He isn't, plus bad defense, plus bad money. He's been out of the mix in Sacramento since last year, that's the kind of situation other teams pounce on for a good player. And people forget he's 29 already.

[Andrew McCeltic]

OKC is way under the cap, JH and 1-2 second rounders into their cap space? Could add Nesmith and take back one of their cheaper young guys too.. Theo Maledon? Or you could try to get Mike Muscala, depends on Aaron's value.

Maledon has played well against us. I don't know where he fits in OKC's plans, or if the Celtics have any interest at all, but considering the Thunder have Josh Giddey and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander ahead of him, maybe he is available. Could be an interesting pick up.

He's more available than Tre Mann. He's an awful shooter, but his free throw percentage is like 90 or something, which could bode well. A lot like Ntilikina, besides being from France - tall, long, needs to learn to shoot, flashes playmaking savvy, defensive upside. Doesn't turn 21 until June. Wouldn't be a bad pickup if we're dealing Schroeder. He's at least as promising as Tremont Waters.

[sully00]

Here's a simple one:

Dennis for Dorian Finney Smith

Mavs get an additional ballhandler who can attack the basket for the Mavs which is a skillset they don't have a lot of.

In Finney-Smith, we get a versatile swing who is shooting 39.6% on C&S 3's.

He's a FA after this season though so a decision would have to be made after this season. But if we supposedly like the Jeff Green type of player, Finney-Smith makes sense.

The reason they want Green is that they want another 4 man who can shoot 3's. They don't want Jaylen and Jayson playing the 4 at least during the regular season. I feel like Finney-Smith is a 2-3.

He's 6-7, 6-8 but the main reason I disagree with you is because he's played pretty much his entire career at the 3/4 spots. Over 50% of his minutes this year and 5 out of the 6 years he's played have been at the 4 spot. He doesn't even have the guard skills to play the 2. He's a better shooter than Green is and it's not particularly close. With 3 guys all around roughly the same size it really won't matter anyway when all 3 are on the floor which I kinda think is the point.

Your right I just have only seen him really play against us not much of Mavs fan. They pretty much are the same guy. Green has another year on his deal for better or worse.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Dallas is going to be trying to deal DFS for Myles Turner

[sully00]

Jalen Smith seems like someone destined for Daniel Theis money, a little more if he improves on his recent play and less if he doesn't. I don't see him going to anyone who can offer more than the MLE. So it's just a question of whether you want to match MLE offers.

Weird wording by Fisher, Boston "is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason": are we trying to stay under the tax next year, too?

I think he probably asked why Boston can't resign Schroder and was told because of the tax. But the reality isn't that they won't pay it is because of the tax they are limited to the tax payer MLE. Schroder probably had non tax payer MLE offers he didn't take last year and now knows better.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jalen Smith seems like someone destined for Daniel Theis money, a little more if he improves on his recent play and less if he doesn't. I don't see him going to anyone who can offer more than the MLE. So it's just a question of whether you want to match MLE offers.

Weird wording by Fisher, Boston "is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason": are we trying to stay under the tax next year, too?

I think he probably asked why Boston can't resign Schroder and was told because of the tax. But the reality isn't that they won't pay it is because of the tax they are limited to the tax payer MLE. Schroder probably had non tax payer MLE offers he didn't take last year and now knows better.

Yeah, good thought. Think we'd be hard-capped even if we dropped under and gave him the full MLE?

[CelticFaninLBC]

OKC is way under the cap, JH and 1-2 second rounders into their cap space? Could add Nesmith and take back one of their cheaper young guys too.. Theo Maledon? Or you could try to get Mike Muscala, depends on Aaron's value.

Maledon has played well against us. I don't know where he fits in OKC's plans, or if the Celtics have any interest at all, but considering the Thunder have Josh Giddey and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander ahead of him, maybe he is available. Could be an interesting pick up.

He's more available than Tre Mann. He's an awful shooter, but his free throw percentage is like 90 or something, which could bode well. A lot like Ntilikina, besides being from France - tall, long, needs to learn to shoot, flashes playmaking savvy, defensive upside. Doesn't turn 21 until June. Wouldn't be a bad pickup if we're dealing Schroeder. He's at least as promising as Tremont Waters.

Any idea what Tre Mann would cost? OKC had an overflow of playmakers.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Doubt they want to trade him, Maledon seems like the oddest man out. No idea how Presti grades Nesmith, or if they'd even be open to taking Juancho for a second round pick.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Couple more details from Fischer-

* Magic: Orlando is said to be asking for first-round picks in return for each of Terrence Ross, Gary Harris and Mo Bamba. Rival teams are optimistic those prices may drop to two second-rounders, as the Magic ultimately accepted for Evan Fournier last deadline.

* Bulls: In Chicago, Coby White is believed to be available ahead of his impending rookie extension conversations this offseason.

No idea the price for Coby White but he's interesting. Don't think we have a salary match or a need for any of the Orlando guys, but wonder if sweetening Horford's contract could get Harris/Bamba.. both going into free agency, Mo gets a tryout.

[darrendaye]

Abort!

[Larry_Russell]

Couple more details from Fischer-

* Magic: Orlando is said to be asking for first-round picks in return for each of Terrence Ross, Gary Harris and Mo Bamba. Rival teams are optimistic those prices may drop to two second-rounders, as the Magic ultimately accepted for Evan Fournier last deadline.

* Bulls: In Chicago, Coby White is believed to be available ahead of his impending rookie extension conversations this offseason.

No idea the price for Coby White but he's interesting. Don't think we have a salary match or a need for any of the Orlando guys, but wonder if sweetening Horford's contract could get Harris/Bamba.. both going into free agency, Mo gets a tryout.

I have posted it a few times but

Hirford and schroder to portland

Roco and 2 seconds to chicago

Cj mccollum and white and brown jr to boston.

I think it works for everyone.



Brown jr for jalen smith maybe?

[Andrew McCeltic]

McCollum and Covington for Horford and Schroeder? Don't think CJ's value is so low that they'll treat him as a salary dump

[Larry_Russell]

McCollum and Covington for Horford and Schroeder? Don't think CJ's value is so low that they'll treat him as a salary dump

Simons is due for a big payday and they are shopping nurkic.

Saving a ton of money of cj makes sense.

Schroder
Simons
Powell
Nance
Horford

Assets from nurkic trade, cap savins and dame back next season and a good draft pick.

[Curmudgeon]

We're back on that good old Celtics track.
One step forward and two steps back.

Can we discuss Tatum and Brown trades again? Or do we have to wait until after tomorrow night's game?

[Andrew McCeltic]

McCollum and Covington for Horford and Schroeder? Don't think CJ's value is so low that they'll treat him as a salary dump

Simons is due for a big payday and they are shopping nurkic.

Saving a ton of money of cj makes sense.

Schroder
Simons
Powell
Nance
Horford

Assets from nurkic trade, cap savins and dame back next season and a good draft pick.

It doesn't make no sense, I just think they can get more for him..

[Andrew McCeltic]

We're back on that good old Celtics track.
One step forward and two steps back.

Can we discuss Tatum and Brown trades again? Or do we have to wait until after tomorrow night's game?

You can discuss whatever you want but no one agrees with you so far

[31to6]

Couple more details from Fischer-

* Magic: Orlando is said to be asking for first-round picks in return for each of Terrence Ross, Gary Harris and Mo Bamba. Rival teams are optimistic those prices may drop to two second-rounders, as the Magic ultimately accepted for Evan Fournier last deadline.

* Bulls: In Chicago, Coby White is believed to be available ahead of his impending rookie extension conversations this offseason.

No idea the price for Coby White but he's interesting. Don't think we have a salary match or a need for any of the Orlando guys, but wonder if sweetening Horford's contract could get Harris/Bamba.. both going into free agency, Mo gets a tryout.

I’d trade stuff for Mo Bamba. Can people quickly convince me that’s a bad idea?

[snowman]

IMO:
Must Keep Tatum, Brown, Rob, Pritchard, and Nesmith.

Richardson and Grant and Hauser are still keepers in my mind.

Got to keep Smart until a better lead guard is found. PP could be that, but next season, not this one. He's primed to take that 3rd year jump.

I would wait until the off season to move Horford, unless a "must have" deal comes along.

Langford, Bruno are both young, but if you can throw them in a deal do it.

Move for whatever you can get, as soon as you can get it, even if you have to attach a 2nd to do it.
Schroder wants to be a perimeter shooter / scorer, and we need him to drive and make a layup or draw a foul or kick out for a three.
Kanter / Freedom can't guard a chair, and recently can't rebound either.
Hernangomez 16.7 % 3-point shooter, and that is the only reason he was brought in. To be a 3-point shooting big.

Thomas needs to be released from the 2 - way. He has yet to make a 3 pointer this season as a guard. Just pathetic. Why in the world does he get minutes and Hauser can't see the floor?