Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[mwhis21]

IMO, if the Jazz land a top 3 pick I think they're going to let Hayward walk or do a sign and trade. It just doesn't make sense to overpay for production that's going to get close to replicated across the board at much lower cost.

Humor me for a minute…

Kanter/Favors/Burke are the foundation here. You're adding one of Parker/Wiggins hypothetically.

Trey Burke (3m)
Alex Burks (2.5m)
Parker/Wiggins (4-5m)
Favors (12m)
Kanter (8-10m) Factoring in an extension at some point.

Their starting lineup will cost them 30 million (give or take) and it's a pretty good starting lineup….that leaves them with a ridiculous amount of cap space…IMO I think that Avery Bradley would be a better sign than resigning Hayward. Let's assume they sign Bradley for 4 years 36 million.

Trey Burke
Avery Bradley
Parker/Wiggins
Favors
Kanter

Still with close to or actual max cap space. I'm actually kind of jealous of the Utah Jazz right now…My point is I'm not sure Hayward is going to get 8 figures. I'm also not convinced that the Jazz will just match and offer sheet at 8-9 million per year.

Thoughts?

[15th overall]

^^^Yeah it is an idea. I don't think anybody was saying it was an actual rumor but Simmons had a "hunch".

I doubt the Brad Stevens/Gordon Hayward connection will ever really go away.

Yea, for whatever reason I thought it was an educated guess of sorts, based on rumblings he had been hearing or whatever.. but he's just hanging his hat on that Butler connection like everybody else does. I don't even want Hayward at over $9 mil a season but I was kind of disappointed by this.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Deal Bradley & Olynyk for Hayward...

Bradley's cheaper and will help with Utah's tank. Iirc Utah had lots of interest in Olynyk pre-draft...

[LobCityRondo2KG]

IMO, if the Jazz land a top 3 pick I think they're going to let Hayward walk or do a sign and trade. It just doesn't make sense to overpay for production that's going to get close to replicated across the board at much lower cost.

Humor me for a minute…

Kanter/Favors/Burke are the foundation here. You're adding one of Parker/Wiggins hypothetically.

Trey Burke (3m)
Alex Burks (2.5m)
Parker/Wiggins (4-5m)
Favors (12m)
Kanter (8-10m) Factoring in an extension at some point.

Their starting lineup will cost them 30 million (give or take) and it's a pretty good starting lineup….that leaves them with a ridiculous amount of cap space…IMO I think that Avery Bradley would be a better sign than resigning Hayward. Let's assume they sign Bradley for 4 years 36 million.

Trey Burke
Avery Bradley
Parker/Wiggins
Favors
Kanter

Still with close to or actual max cap space. I'm actually kind of jealous of the Utah Jazz right now…My point is I'm not sure Hayward is going to get 8 figures. I'm also not convinced that the Jazz will just match and offer sheet at 8-9 million per year.

Thoughts?

They could just shift Hayward over to the 2 Guard

[Florida celtic]

What would it take to get Rockets DMo?

A 2020 2nd rounder?

[15th overall]

What would it take to get Rockets DMo?

A 2020 2nd rounder?

Morey seems to overrate his own players. I don't think it's safe to assume anything when trying to gauge what he would consider to be fair value.

[Valid]

Deal Bradley & Olynyk for Hayward...

Bradley's cheaper and will help with Utah's tank. Iirc Utah had lots of interest in Olynyk pre-draft...

That's too much to give up for Hayward.

[Florida celtic]

If Rockets want a scoring wing:

DMO for Marshon Brooks works

[Valid]

If Rockets want a scoring wing:

DMO for Marshon Brooks works

No GM would ever do that deal. Never mind Daryl Morey, who would probably ask us for Jared Sullinger and pick in return for Motiejunas.

[Florida celtic]

If Rockets want a scoring wing:

DMO for Marshon Brooks works

No GM would ever do that deal. Never mind Daryl Morey, who would probably ask us for Jared Sullinger and pick in return for Motiejunas.

Maybe Humphries for Asik and DMO?

If Houston doesn't trust TJones at the 4.

Can DMO play the 5?

[Valid]

If Rockets want a scoring wing:

DMO for Marshon Brooks works

No GM would ever do that deal. Never mind Daryl Morey, who would probably ask us for Jared Sullinger and pick in return for Motiejunas.

Maybe Humphries for Asik and DMO?

If Houston doesn't trust TJones at the 4.

Can DMO play the 5?

Morey is asking for an arm and leg in return for Asik. Throw DMo into the deal, and you're probably looking at giving up an ear and an eye, too.

As far as Jones goes, they like him a lot. It's just a matter of them wanting to add another big who can stretch the floor. Humphries fits that bill, but he'd have to be part of a much larger package to land both Asik and Motiejunas. Plus, I think Morey would rather have Bass than Hump for defensive purposes.

[CelticFaninLBC]

No GM would ever do that deal. Never mind Daryl Morey, who would probably ask us for Jared Sullinger and pick in return for Motiejunas.

Maybe Humphries for Asik and DMO?

If Houston doesn't trust TJones at the 4.

Can DMO play the 5?

Morey is asking for an arm and leg in return for Asik. Throw DMo into the deal, and you're probably looking at giving up an ear and an eye, too.

As far as Jones goes, they like him a lot. It's just a matter of them wanting to add another big who can stretch the floor. Humphries fits that bill, but he'd have to be part of a much larger package to land both Asik and Motiejunas. Plus, I think Morey would rather have Bass than Hump for defensive purposes.

Morey seems to desire a big who can shoot the 3 like Hawes... They have nothing to give to Philly though...

[Slartibartfast]

In the aftermath of the Deng trade, I think Chicago will look to position themselves for a big free agency splash by amnestying Boozer and shedding some of the non Rose/Noah money. They may also be looking to improve their draft position.

So how about Hump and a lotto-protected pick for Taj Gibson and Mike Dunleavy? We get the rich man's Brandon Bass (fast enough to defend quick 4s but long enough to protect the rim) to slot in between Sully and KO in the big man rotation and a guy that shouldn't be hard to trade in Dunleavy.

It's not my dream scenario, but if the front office is optimistic about Sully and KO, Gibson's a great guy to fill out the rotation.

[j_angel]

In the aftermath of the Deng trade, I think Chicago will look to position themselves for a big free agency splash by amnestying Boozer and shedding some of the non Rose/Noah money. They may also be looking to improve their draft position.

So how about Hump and a lotto-protected pick for Taj Gibson and Mike Dunleavy? We get the rich man's Brandon Bass (fast enough to defend quick 4s but long enough to protect the rim) to slot in between Sully and KO in the big man rotation and a guy that shouldn't be hard to trade in Dunleavy.

It's not my dream scenario, but if the front office is optimistic about Sully and KO, Gibson's a great guy to fill out the rotation.

I like Gibson but thats the exact opposite direction we need to go in. Gibson is a bench player at best behind Sully. He is undersized so we mays as well play Humphries. + He is 28.

Acquiring Noah I could see because he is a defensive guy who is big enough to play the 5.

[CelticFaninLBC]

In the aftermath of the Deng trade, I think Chicago will look to position themselves for a big free agency splash by amnestying Boozer and shedding some of the non Rose/Noah money. They may also be looking to improve their draft position.

So how about Hump and a lotto-protected pick for Taj Gibson and Mike Dunleavy? We get the rich man's Brandon Bass (fast enough to defend quick 4s but long enough to protect the rim) to slot in between Sully and KO in the big man rotation and a guy that shouldn't be hard to trade in Dunleavy.

It's not my dream scenario, but if the front office is optimistic about Sully and KO, Gibson's a great guy to fill out the rotation.

That's a lot of money to pay Sully's backup @ the 4...

If Chicago was offering Deng 3 & 30, I can't see them going all out in free agency for someone like Melo, who seems out of their price range... I suspect they're trying to tank the season and will be dumping Hinrich & Dunleavy soon.

[Slartibartfast]

In the aftermath of the Deng trade, I think Chicago will look to position themselves for a big free agency splash by amnestying Boozer and shedding some of the non Rose/Noah money. They may also be looking to improve their draft position.

So how about Hump and a lotto-protected pick for Taj Gibson and Mike Dunleavy? We get the rich man's Brandon Bass (fast enough to defend quick 4s but long enough to protect the rim) to slot in between Sully and KO in the big man rotation and a guy that shouldn't be hard to trade in Dunleavy.

It's not my dream scenario, but if the front office is optimistic about Sully and KO, Gibson's a great guy to fill out the rotation.

That's a lot of money to pay Sully's backup @ the 4...

If Chicago was offering Deng 3 & 30, I can't see them going all out in free agency for someone like Melo, who seems out of their price range... I suspect they're trying to tank the season and will be dumping Hinrich & Dunleavy soon.

More of a 6th man than a back-up.

Big difference between Deng and Melo. Melo is a lot more like Rose, the guy they are paying $18+ mil per.

[rickrolled]

NBA trade rumors - Bobcats shopping Ben Gordon.

- The Charlotte Bobcats are shopping Ben Gordon, according to league sources. They have talked to many teams about the veteran guard and are trying to move Gordon's $13,200,000 ending contract for a player who helps them win now. Charlotte has played well this season and currently sits in the East's seventh seed. They're expected to be buyers at the deadline, because they want to make the playoffs for just the second time in franchise history.

http://sulia.com/channel/detroit-piston ... ce=twitter

Looks like they're serious about making the playoffs, MKG will be back soon and they need a vet or two, maybe Bass,Crawford,Bogans for Gordon,Taylor and DET pick ?

Eventhough they liked Hump and may still do, Bass and Crawford is tough to pass up. Crawford is better than Taylor who is out for the season. Good trade for both teams.

[klemen4]

There are a lot of options trading with Charlotte, we have to use this chance.

They basically needs improvement at every position, Green and Bass could also start there, Hump would be perfect 3rd big, Crawford perfect 6th man....

Hump for Gordon, POR pick
Bass+Crawford for Gordon, DET pick(let them protect it)
Green+Bass for Gordon, MKG

I would even offer Green,Bass, Crawford for MKG...would be perfect tanking move and young starters for us.

Rondo/Bradley/MKG/Olynyk/Sully

[CelticFaninLBC]

I would even offer Green,Bass, Crawford for MKG...

Rondo/Bradley/MKG/Olynyk/Sully

Would love that trade, and even better if they can replace Bradley, with Hayward, as both MKG and Bradley are offensively challenged..

[CelticFaninLBC]

That's a lot of money to pay Sully's backup @ the 4...

If Chicago was offering Deng 3 & 30, I can't see them going all out in free agency for someone like Melo, who seems out of their price range... I suspect they're trying to tank the season and will be dumping Hinrich & Dunleavy soon.

More of a 6th man than a back-up.

Big difference between Deng and Melo. Melo is a lot more like Rose, the guy they are paying $18+ mil per.[/quote]

Yes similar players. I'm not sure if there will be enough basketballs for Melo & Rose... Both dominate the ball.