Trade Ideas Thread

[cl2117]

I'm driving the Brandan Wright for Isiah Thomas train

How's that work with Smart long term? Is Thomas your starter and Smart backing up or vice versa? Or is Smart splitting time between the 1 and 2?

I like Isaiah Thomas, but always thought he was going to get overpaid, but his new contract is reasonable. I feel like there are other positions I'd rather address than bringing in a PG, but I could come around to the idea.

I don't know.

I love Smart and he brings a ton when he's on the court, but I don't like him as the primary ball handler and we all know how limited Bradley is with the ball in his hands.

I don't see the need to start Smart. He can still get 30 minutes/game off the bench with his ability to play up to 3 positions.

I just think IT would blend well with Bradley and Smart and provide a nice contrast. He's having another strong season...

He's locked in at a very affordable $7mill for the next 4 years and is having another strong season. At 25 years old he's averaging 16 points and 4 assists in only 24 minutes a game. He's also doing it very efficiently shooting 44% overall and 39% from 3pt with a TS% of 59 and a PER of 21.6 (both the latter career highs). He also gets to the line over 5 times a game (24th in NBA).

I don't think he needs to start, but I think it's important that they decide where they want him to play and get him situated there. I don't think it needs to be done immediately, but the sooner the better. The best thing for his long term development would be to get him in locked into a position and let him learn it.

I'm luke warm on the idea. I think it could work and he's good value, but I just don't know if I see Thomas as ever being a top PG and with the pick they invested in Smart I feel like they're better off letting him take the reigns for a bit and use Wright to address other areas/add to the pick stockpile. Maybe I just need to watch more of Thomas though. I always felt like he was going to be the next Nate Robinson, but his numbers look good.

[BleedGreen1989]

How's that work with Smart long term? Is Thomas your starter and Smart backing up or vice versa? Or is Smart splitting time between the 1 and 2?

I like Isaiah Thomas, but always thought he was going to get overpaid, but his new contract is reasonable. I feel like there are other positions I'd rather address than bringing in a PG, but I could come around to the idea.

I don't know.

I love Smart and he brings a ton when he's on the court, but I don't like him as the primary ball handler and we all know how limited Bradley is with the ball in his hands.

I don't see the need to start Smart. He can still get 30 minutes/game off the bench with his ability to play up to 3 positions.

I just think IT would blend well with Bradley and Smart and provide a nice contrast. He's having another strong season...

He's locked in at a very affordable $7mill for the next 4 years and is having another strong season. At 25 years old he's averaging 16 points and 4 assists in only 24 minutes a game. He's also doing it very efficiently shooting 44% overall and 39% from 3pt with a TS% of 59 and a PER of 21.6 (both the latter career highs). He also gets to the line over 5 times a game (24th in NBA).

I don't think he needs to start, but I think it's important that they decide where they want him to play and get him situated there. I don't think it needs to be done immediately, but the sooner the better. The best thing for his long term development would be to get him in locked into a position and let him learn it.

I'm luke warm on the idea. I think it could work and he's good value, but I just don't know if I see Thomas as ever being a top PG and with the pick they invested in Smart I feel like they're better off letting him take the reigns for a bit and use Wright to address other areas/add to the pick stockpile. Maybe I just need to watch more of Thomas though. I always felt like he was going to be the next Nate Robinson, but his numbers look good.

He likely won't be but he'd bring an offensive weapon this team simply doesn't have and would instantly become one of our best 3pt shooters. Also, he has the makings of a sixth man of the year candidate and at only $7mill, theres no issues bringing him off the bench.

I could be completely wrong, but i don't see a big rush to pigeon-hole Marcus into a position either.

Is he a 2? Is he a 1? I have no idea but the guy is a ball player.

[cl2117]

He likely won't be but he'd bring an offensive weapon this team simply doesn't have and would instantly become one of our best 3pt shooters. Also, he has the makings of a sixth man of the year candidate and at only $7mill, theres no issues bringing him off the bench.

I could be completely wrong, but i don't see a big rush to pigeon-hole Marcus into a position either.

Is he a 2? Is he a 1? I have no idea but the guy is a ball player.

I think if they have any hope at all of him being the PG of the future, they need to start grooming him now. I think Smart is physically gifted enough and has defense that's already so elite that he should easily end up as a 6th man type combo-guard no matter what. But I think if they want him to potentially take over the reigns as their starting PG he needs to start learning how to run an offense sooner rather than later. He isn't the best shooter so he is going to need to be a floor general and work on being the main ball handler to compensate.

I think with Smart you can always fall back to him being a combo-guard who has elite defense and a work in progress offensive game, but that's basically what we have in Bradley. I think you're much better off plugging Smart into the starting PG spot and seeing if he can develop there (that is if they think he has the tools to be the long term answer).

[FakeScreenName123]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/ ... ley-wright

Suns trade Miles Plumlee, Anthony Tolliver and Isaiah Thomas to Celtics for Avery Bradley and Brandon Wright

[BleedGreen1989]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/12/22/7433597/nba-trade-idea-phoenix-suns-boston-celtics-thomas-plumlee-bradley-wright

Suns trade Miles Plumlee, Anthony Tolliver and Isaiah Thomas to Celtics for Avery Bradley and Brandon Wright

That's hilarious. I'm the smartest man alive!

Wouldn't do it as it's proposed though. Wouldn't give up Bradley as i like his fit next to IT.

[Edug27]

So Isaiah Thomas as the future starting PG .. Hmm .. I like him best as a scorer off the bench. But I don't think he likes that down in Phoenix.

[BleedGreen1989]

With news of Thomas firing his agent, Andy Miller, two weeks ago and with him becoming trade-eligible this week, the dot-connectors went to work after Thomas' comment to cbssports.com last month that the Suns situation "was not what I expected." Miller negotiated Thomas' four-year, $27 million contract with Phoenix in July. "It's unrelated to the Suns," Thomas said of firing his agent. "I lost trust in the guy. That's all it is. Professional reasons. Personal reasons as well. People, I've seen, say I want to be traded and things like that. Nah, that happened two weeks ago." Arizona Republic -

Yeah, not sure how to read into this.

I guess in PHX he has to share the ball with high usage guys like Tragic, Bledsoe, and Green while in Boston i think most of our guys (Green, Bradley, Smart, Olynyk, etc) play better off the ball.

[Slartibartfast]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/12/22/7433597/nba-trade-idea-phoenix-suns-boston-celtics-thomas-plumlee-bradley-wright

Suns trade Miles Plumlee, Anthony Tolliver and Isaiah Thomas to Celtics for Avery Bradley and Brandon Wright

It's a good basketball trade, but I don't particularly want to add any more wins this year. I think an established scorer like Thomas would bring a lot of balance on the court, and with it, a few more wins.

I'd rather deal Wright for a project - Biyombo from Charlotte or Capela from Houston. Or Bradley for another young guy with the right skill set but a ways away from figuring it out (Waiters, Austin Rivers).

[bbd24]

Give us Bledsoe instead of IT and you have a deal. Other wise, restructure it.

[bbd24]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

[BleedGreen1989]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

[brackdan70]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

8 million is the new 5 million.

I would definitely consider it unless something better is there in FA or Draft...which certainly could be the case.
he may not be that interested in signing in boston though...depending on how the season goes and how he feels about the future

[bbd24]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

Yes. You have room and he won't impede you from doing anything else that's on your list.

[Slartibartfast]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

8 million is the new 5 million.

I would definitely consider it unless something better is there in FA or Draft...which certainly could be the case.
he may not be that interested in signing in boston though...depending on how the season goes and how he feels about the future

Not me. Brandan Wright is a roleplayer around the same age as Rondo and Green. We clearly decided we didn't want to pay Rondo what he could fetch, and it's pretty obvious the same goes for Green. Why then would we pay Wright? We have 3 rotation caliber bigs still on the rookie scale, plus maybe more arriving in the offseason.

We don't need a good veteran bench big at the peak of his career, but we'd be competing with teams that do if we tried to sign him. As much as I dislike Bass, I'd rather re-up him as a cheaper, out of fashion 4th big (sort of like Maxiell) than pay Wright what he'll command.

[Edug27]

Intriguing player .. But I don't see B.Wright in the future plans.

[Slartibartfast]

I'm with Ainge and Coach Stevens. I like Brandan Wright. His length and athleticism cause problems in this league all around. I think you have to get more than IT if you're dealing him. IT is ok, but I'd rather have a big like Wright. They are harder to find.

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

Yes. You have room and he won't impede you from doing anything else that's on your list.

If we're going to pay top dollar on the FA market this year, it should be guys with substantial room for improvement, and, ideally, guys with star potential.

Among big men, that's Monroe, maybe Kanter.

[brackdan70]

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

8 million is the new 5 million.

I would definitely consider it unless something better is there in FA or Draft...which certainly could be the case.
he may not be that interested in signing in boston though...depending on how the season goes and how he feels about the future

Not me. Brandan Wright is a roleplayer around the same age as Rondo and Green. We clearly decided we didn't want to pay Rondo what he could fetch, and it's pretty obvious the same goes for Green. Why then would we pay Wright? We have 3 rotation caliber bigs still on the rookie scale, plus maybe more arriving in the offseason.

We don't need a good veteran bench big at the peak of his career, but we'd be competing with teams that do if we tried to sign him. As much as I dislike Bass, I'd rather re-up him as a cheaper, out of fashion 4th big (sort of like Maxiell) than pay Wright what he'll command.

thats a pretty fair assessment, and I can't really ague against it. my point was that 8 million is not that much going forward. not sure what he will command, but probably about that. he is actually over a year younger than green and almost 2 years younger than Rondo. I think if you sign him for a fair contract he is an asset, and unless there are better options out there, I wouldn't be opposed. I think Wright at 8 million is a better asset than Bass at 5.

[Slartibartfast]

8 million is the new 5 million.

I would definitely consider it unless something better is there in FA or Draft...which certainly could be the case.
he may not be that interested in signing in boston though...depending on how the season goes and how he feels about the future

Not me. Brandan Wright is a roleplayer around the same age as Rondo and Green. We clearly decided we didn't want to pay Rondo what he could fetch, and it's pretty obvious the same goes for Green. Why then would we pay Wright? We have 3 rotation caliber bigs still on the rookie scale, plus maybe more arriving in the offseason.

We don't need a good veteran bench big at the peak of his career, but we'd be competing with teams that do if we tried to sign him. As much as I dislike Bass, I'd rather re-up him as a cheaper, out of fashion 4th big (sort of like Maxiell) than pay Wright what he'll command.

thats a pretty fair assessment, and I can't really ague against it. my point was that 8 million is not that much going forward. not sure what he will command, but probably about that. he is actually over a year younger than green and almost 2 years younger than Rondo. I think if you sign him for a fair contract he is an asset, and unless there are better options out there, I wouldn't be opposed. I think Wright at 8 million is a better asset than Bass at 5.

Yeah, but Wright is probly looking at 4 years. Bass will probably get 1 or 2.

[bbd24]

Are you prepared to pay Wright the $8mill+ he'll demand this summer?

Yes. You have room and he won't impede you from doing anything else that's on your list.

If we're going to pay top dollar on the FA market this year, it should be guys with substantial room for improvement, and, ideally, guys with star potential.

Among big men, that's Monroe, maybe Kanter.

I'd agree. But if guys you already have are good, why not keep them ? I have Wright better than Bass, and I'm not so sure he isn't better than Sully, or Olynyk. Those two are still young to tell, but if you like them, why not like Wright ? It's ok to have 3 good big men on the team and still get better.

[bucknersrevenge]

I would re-up Wright at 8. I think he's an asset that I'd want to hold on to. Not sure he'd want to stay though. Other teams may be able to offer him better situations in terms of competitiveness. To entice him we'd have to be able to offer him a good amount of playing time, like 30mpg around at least. We'd have to show him we were looking to compete too. Like if we were somehow able to sign Greg Monroe, I'd put Wright in between Monroe and Green and then trade Sully + picks for a shot to move up in the draft for say a Justise Winslow or something. Green/Wright/Monroe is a frontcourt I'd put up against any team in the East right now. With Olynyk and Zeller coming off the bench. Hell even if we didn't get Monroe I'd take a 3some of Zeller, KO and Wright at the 4/5