Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[GoCeltics123]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3893654/nba-trade-rumors-lopez-celtics-johnson-brown-nets/

Sportsrageous reports that the Celtics and Nets may be talking about a deal that would involve Lopez, power forward Amir Johnson and small forward Jaylen Brown. There is related internet chatter that indicates that part of these negotiations may involve the possible return of the Brooklyn Nets’ 2018 first-round pick that is currently the property of the Celtics.

I think everyone needs a good laugh today, you can thank me later.

Some good ol' fake news haha

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3893654/nba-trade-rumors-lopez-celtics-johnson-brown-nets/

Sportsrageous reports that the Celtics and Nets may be talking about a deal that would involve Lopez, power forward Amir Johnson and small forward Jaylen Brown. There is related internet chatter that indicates that part of these negotiations may involve the possible return of the Brooklyn Nets’ 2018 first-round pick that is currently the property of the Celtics.

I think everyone needs a good laugh today, you can thank me later.

Some good ol' fake news haha

Wow. Even that is bad for fake news standards. Lopez for Amir, Brown and the 2018 Nets pick? That's insane. We might have to throw in Tyler Zeller to even things out for the Nets.

[165bows]

Crowder, Young, Mickey, LAC first to Orlando
Amir, Zeller, Rozier, Hezonja, Memphis pick to NY
Ibaka, Melo to Boston.

Still not sold but an interesting idea.

Please tell me you are joking? I wouldn't trade Crowder straight up for Melo ...

Contract, age, play style and character do all favor Crowder.

Me either but throw in Ibaka and I'd start thinking about it.

[gocelts]

Melo is interesting.... Cleveland and Clips don't have much unless they cough up core Allstars...I could see clips parting with Griffin...if not, we could get something done around Brown or Bradley and that Memphis pick...adding Melo to IT and Horford give us some star power and also adding a top pick next year makes us a threat. Danny will just round out the roster with solid vets to address rebounding, 3 point shooting etc...also Sreaming is super obnoxious but he knows New York and Philly.

[Tiny ball]

Crowder, Young, Mickey, LAC first to Orlando
Amir, Zeller, Rozier, Hezonja, Memphis pick to NY
Ibaka, Melo to Boston.

Still not sold but an interesting idea.

Please tell me you are joking? I wouldn't trade Crowder straight up for Melo ...

Contract, age, play style and character do all favor Crowder.

I am not big fan of Crowder but I agree 100%

[canman1971]

I would never want Melo on the Celtics. He is the opposite of everything the Green represents.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I want Hezonja, and Vucevic, or Hezonja and Noel. Bradley to Orlando is the starting point.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Forget Ibaka. Even Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us. Adding Vucevic, and moving Crowder, could be cap neutral. Or Jae for Hezonja, Bradley for Noel/Laker pick.

[Murta]

Remind me to migrate to reddit if Hezonja ever comes to the Celtics. I don't know which are worse, his circlejerkers or haters.

EDIT: it's not anyone on this board who likes him (I still maybe kinda do), it's the "fans" who'd come

[Celts17Pride]

Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us

and you want people to take you seriously?

[Smog]

Forget Ibaka. Even Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us. Adding Vucevic, and moving Crowder, could be cap neutral. Or Jae for Hezonja, Bradley for Noel/Laker pick.

Is this a joke?

You want to move two years of a starting two-guard for a guy who was kicked down to the d-league on a losing team?

And there's no sense in moving four years of Crowder for two years of Vucevic. If you're getting Vucevic it's to win now and you need Crowder. Are we making trades just to make trades?

Meanwhile Philly isn't trading the Laker pick for Avery Bradley, never mind with Noel attached.

[fallguy]

I want Hezonja, and Vucevic, or Hezonja and Noel. Bradley to Orlando is the starting point.

You seem to have 100 trades you want to do in any given week.

[Celts17Pride]

I want Hezonja, and Vucevic, or Hezonja and Noel. Bradley to Orlando is the starting point.

You seem to have 100 trades you want to do in any given week.

and yet somehow none of them make any sense

[Andrew McCeltic]

Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us

and you want people to take you seriously?

Short term loss, long term win. Hezonja at 21 makes Bradley at 21 look like a D-leaguer.

You can't compare Bradley at his peak, after 6 years in the league, to a 21 year old Hezonja in his second season.

Dude is 6'8", crazy hops, his stroke so far derailed by inconsistent minutes. Has a lot of issues, but nothing atypical for a young player. Nothing but inexperience stopping him from being a good defender.

Avery is a year away from free agency, we have Smart and Jaylen to get minutes at the 2, and our lotto pick is probably bringing us a guard.

We can debate this, but at least come with some criticism of Hezonja, or defense of keeping Bradley.

[Celts17Pride]

Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us

and you want people to take you seriously?

Short term loss, long term win. Hezonja at 21 makes Bradley at 21 look like a D-leaguer.

You can't compare Bradley at his peak, after 6 years in the league, to a 21 year old Hezonja in his second season.

Dude is 6'8", crazy hops, his stroke so far derailed by inconsistent minutes. Has a lot of issues, but nothing atypical for a young player. Nothing but inexperience stopping him from being a good defender.

Avery is a year away from free agency, we have Smart and Jaylen to get minutes at the 2, and our lotto pick is probably bringing us a guard.

We can debate this, but at least come with some criticism of Hezonja, or defense of keeping Bradley.

So according to your logic Celtics should trade IT for Kris Dunn for exactly the same reasons.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Forget Ibaka. Even Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us. Adding Vucevic, and moving Crowder, could be cap neutral. Or Jae for Hezonja, Bradley for Noel/Laker pick.

Is this a joke?

You want to move two years of a starting two-guard for a guy who was kicked down to the d-league on a losing team?

And there's no sense in moving four years of Crowder for two years of Vucevic. If you're getting Vucevic it's to win now and you need Crowder. Are we making trades just to make trades?

Meanwhile Philly isn't trading the Laker pick for Avery Bradley, never mind with Noel attached.

We had a Philly fan *suggest* Noel/LA pick for Bradley, and take it to the trade board - there's consensus it's fair value.

Dealing Bradley and Crowder and getting Vucevic is cap neutral - we keep max space, we have a center who would appeal to SAC or CHI if they're rebuilding, we have a Gordon Hayward sized hole on the wing.

Stevens is such a good coach he gets his players to overachieve and raises their trade value. Jerebko was an afterthought in Detroit and now he's a switch forward who looks like a highly useful role player. Crowder, I think, is a great player, but he's a guy like Eric Williams, he does little things, he gets in the right spots, he's a winner, he maximizes his talents- but like Bradley, he's at his peak.

[Andrew McCeltic]

and you want people to take you seriously?

Short term loss, long term win. Hezonja at 21 makes Bradley at 21 look like a D-leaguer.

You can't compare Bradley at his peak, after 6 years in the league, to a 21 year old Hezonja in his second season.

Dude is 6'8", crazy hops, his stroke so far derailed by inconsistent minutes. Has a lot of issues, but nothing atypical for a young player. Nothing but inexperience stopping him from being a good defender.

Avery is a year away from free agency, we have Smart and Jaylen to get minutes at the 2, and our lotto pick is probably bringing us a guard.

We can debate this, but at least come with some criticism of Hezonja, or defense of keeping Bradley.

So according to your logic Celtics should trade IT for Kris Dunn for exactly the same reasons.

No, because unlike Bradley, IT is the engine of our offense. They're different players. Bradley's role is more easily filled.

[celticfan42487]

Bradley for Hezonja would be a huge win for us

and you want people to take you seriously?

Short term loss, long term win. Hezonja at 21 makes Bradley at 21 look like a D-leaguer.

You can't compare Bradley at his peak, after 6 years in the league, to a 21 year old Hezonja in his second season.

Dude is 6'8", crazy hops, his stroke so far derailed by inconsistent minutes. Has a lot of issues, but nothing atypical for a young player. Nothing but inexperience stopping him from being a good defender.

Avery is a year away from free agency, we have Smart and Jaylen to get minutes at the 2, and our lotto pick is probably bringing us a guard.

We can debate this, but at least come with some criticism of Hezonja, or defense of keeping Bradley.

I'm sorry dude, but when you come with complete nonsense like trading Bradley for Hezonja the burden of proof is on you to try and at least make some realistic argument for it.

It would be like saying the Earth would do better without the Sun and then getting angry that people are dismissing the statement without arguing against the statement.

Not just that he's young and plays the same position. Least you forget we already have a player that shares those traits and even has the last name Young on this team. The player you're mentioning isn't lack for minutes either, last year as a rookie he played 18mpg. That's a solid rotational amount of minutes and depending on the coach you're playing for 6th man levels of minutes. And proceeded to come in this year and lost his rotational spot with the protection of his high draft pick fading off.

[Andrew McCeltic]

and you want people to take you seriously?

Short term loss, long term win. Hezonja at 21 makes Bradley at 21 look like a D-leaguer.

You can't compare Bradley at his peak, after 6 years in the league, to a 21 year old Hezonja in his second season.

Dude is 6'8", crazy hops, his stroke so far derailed by inconsistent minutes. Has a lot of issues, but nothing atypical for a young player. Nothing but inexperience stopping him from being a good defender.

Avery is a year away from free agency, we have Smart and Jaylen to get minutes at the 2, and our lotto pick is probably bringing us a guard.

We can debate this, but at least come with some criticism of Hezonja, or defense of keeping Bradley.

I'm sorry dude, but when you come with complete nonsense like trading Bradley for Hezonja the burden of proof is on you to try and at least make some realistic argument for it.

It would be like saying the Earth would do better without the Sun and then getting angry that people are dismissing the statement without arguing against the statement.

Not just that he's young and plays the same position. Least you forget we already have a player that shares those traits and even has the last name Young on this team. The player you're mentioning isn't lack for minutes either, last year as a rookie he played 18mpg. That's a solid rotational amount of minutes and depending on the coach you're playing for 6th man levels of minutes. And proceeded to come in this year and lost his rotational spot with the protection of his high draft pick fading off.

https://www.google.com/amp/orlandomagicdaily.com/2017/01/20/injuries-clear-path-mario-hezonja-find-rhythm/amp/

Watch his third and fourth baskets in the embedded clip - it's taken Bradley six years to just barely be able to do that.

I don't remember what position you two have taken, but this board routinely underestimates young players and fails to project their development. Smart and Bradley are the two best examples. Both, in year 2, didn't look much better than Hezonja has on offense. Their defense got them on the floor.

Wasn't just losing phenom status that hurt Hezonja- there's a new coach, new roster, Meeks came over at the last trade deadline.. Just because a 21 year old slumps it doesn't mean he's a bust. Bradley has been an up and down shooter prior to this season.

[Captain_Caveman]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3893654/nba-trade-rumors-lopez-celtics-johnson-brown-nets/



I think everyone needs a good laugh today, you can thank me later.

Some good ol' fake news haha

Wow. Even that is bad for fake news standards. Lopez for Amir, Brown and the 2018 Nets pick? That's insane. We might have to throw in Tyler Zeller to even things out for the Nets.

The point is to get people to click.