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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1361 » by GoGreen » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm

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GoGreen wrote:Is KAT realistic? Would he fit here? Nice on offense but isn't his defense putrid? Does he pass? Idk man. I don't want a guy who puts up fluff for numbers and who doesn't really want it. Lots of trade Brown ideas but idk if there's anything much out there worth it.

Fluff for numbers? These are KAT's season-by-season on/off percentiles:
86, 72, 98, 91, 80, 96, 80

For reference, our big-time winner Jaylen Brown has had seasons in the following on/off percentiles:
11, 91, 19, 40, 60, 84


Minnesota has sucked for years with KAT leading the charge.
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Post#1362 » by playa-hater » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:27 pm

I still think the biggest question is will there be a big change small change or Barely any?
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Post#1363 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:36 pm

playa-hater wrote:I still think the biggest question is will there be a big change small change or Barely any?



A change, while small on paper, could have a massive impact overall.

IMO, Removing Schroder and adding a wing who can make around 40% of the threes he takes is a huge impact
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Post#1364 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:52 pm

Mike Muscala is shooting 44% from 3 lol. Any interest?

Schroder + Juancho for Muscala gets us under tax I think.
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Post#1365 » by bisme37 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:55 pm

I'm a little concerned that trading Schroo will result in the team missing Schroo. For all his faults we don't exactly have a ton of guys who can break down the defense and get their own shot.
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Post#1366 » by Bill Lumbergh » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:08 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Mike Muscala is shooting 44% from 3 lol. Any interest?

Schroder + Juancho for Muscala gets us under tax I think.

Pull the trigger on a Schroder trade. Bring this guy in on a minimum. He's tanned, rested, and ready. Seriously, I don't even care if it's a wasted roster spot. Time to complete the circle.
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Post#1367 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:21 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Mike Muscala is shooting 44% from 3 lol. Any interest?

Schroder + Juancho for Muscala gets us under tax I think.

Pull the trigger on a Schroder trade. Bring this guy in on a minimum. He's tanned, rested, and ready. Seriously, I don't even care if it's a wasted roster spot. Time to complete the circle.
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Post#1368 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:22 pm

bisme37 wrote:I'm a little concerned that trading Schroo will result in the team missing Schroo. For all his faults we don't exactly have a ton of guys who can break down the defense and get their own shot.



Richardson.
Tatum
Brown


Bring in IT

Someone from the schroder trade.


Not really concerned.
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Post#1369 » by Bill Lumbergh » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:31 pm

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NuckyPowell wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Mike Muscala is shooting 44% from 3 lol. Any interest?

Schroder + Juancho for Muscala gets us under tax I think.

Pull the trigger on a Schroder trade. Bring this guy in on a minimum. He's tanned, rested, and ready. Seriously, I don't even care if it's a wasted roster spot. Time to complete the circle.
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Yep. That, for sure.
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Post#1370 » by ddb » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:40 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Would love to have KAT and have fellow Dominican Horfie mentor him. I doubt Minny trades him unless he asks out.

Getting rid of Schro trade idea: Schroder + Juancho for Sato (who's expiring and is playing like ****) + some minor asset. Moves PP up the rotation w/ an expiring vet as emergency pass-first PG. Leave 15th spot open for buyout guy or sign someone like James Ennis or Mike Scott if we want another stretch big or just give Sam Hauser a shot.

Kyle Anderson as backup swing would be cool too. Dunno what Griz would want for him. Former Spurs guy who can only help the ball movement movement. But why would MEM have interest in Dennis when they have Ja and Tyus?


I would love to get Boston for Schroder, but no way CLippers do that.

Knicks for Samanic and Knox (win later move on Samanic)
Mavs, maybe for Josh green?
Denver?
Pelicans? Would they trade Hart? Would they trade Hart and JV? and full out tank?
Houston? Schroder and Juancho for Garuba and Augustine?

Wizards?


just a small tidbit on Samanic. word out of San Antonio is that was a major whiff...apparently he's terrible and it's highly unlikely he ever makes it in the NBA.
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Post#1371 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:54 pm

ddb wrote:
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zoyathedestroya wrote:Would love to have KAT and have fellow Dominican Horfie mentor him. I doubt Minny trades him unless he asks out.

Getting rid of Schro trade idea: Schroder + Juancho for Sato (who's expiring and is playing like ****) + some minor asset. Moves PP up the rotation w/ an expiring vet as emergency pass-first PG. Leave 15th spot open for buyout guy or sign someone like James Ennis or Mike Scott if we want another stretch big or just give Sam Hauser a shot.

Kyle Anderson as backup swing would be cool too. Dunno what Griz would want for him. Former Spurs guy who can only help the ball movement movement. But why would MEM have interest in Dennis when they have Ja and Tyus?


I would love to get Boston for Schroder, but no way CLippers do that.

Knicks for Samanic and Knox (win later move on Samanic)
Mavs, maybe for Josh green?
Denver?
Pelicans? Would they trade Hart? Would they trade Hart and JV? and full out tank?
Houston? Schroder and Juancho for Garuba and Augustine?

Wizards?


just a small tidbit on Samanic. word out of San Antonio is that was a major whiff...apparently he's terrible and it's highly unlikely he ever makes it in the NBA.


I HEard the same, but damn, kid is showing in GLeague. And still only 21

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Post#1372 » by Bill Lumbergh » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:01 pm

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ddb wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
I would love to get Boston for Schroder, but no way CLippers do that.

Knicks for Samanic and Knox (win later move on Samanic)
Mavs, maybe for Josh green?
Denver?
Pelicans? Would they trade Hart? Would they trade Hart and JV? and full out tank?
Houston? Schroder and Juancho for Garuba and Augustine?

Wizards?


just a small tidbit on Samanic. word out of San Antonio is that was a major whiff...apparently he's terrible and it's highly unlikely he ever makes it in the NBA.


I HEard the same, but damn, kid is showing in GLeague. And still only 21


I'd take a flyer on him.
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Post#1373 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:05 pm

NuckyPowell wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
ddb wrote:
just a small tidbit on Samanic. word out of San Antonio is that was a major whiff...apparently he's terrible and it's highly unlikely he ever makes it in the NBA.


I HEard the same, but damn, kid is showing in GLeague. And still only 21


I'd take a flyer on him.



Same as me, he would most likely come very cheap. And if he works out it is a complete home run.
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Post#1374 » by Stan34 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:22 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Is KAT realistic? Would he fit here? Nice on offense but isn't his defense putrid? Does he pass? Idk man. I don't want a guy who puts up fluff for numbers and who doesn't really want it. Lots of trade Brown ideas but idk if there's anything much out there worth it.

Fluff for numbers? These are KAT's season-by-season on/off percentiles:
86, 72, 98, 91, 80, 96, 80

For reference, our big-time winner Jaylen Brown has had seasons in the following on/off percentiles:
11, 91, 19, 40, 60, 84
People like you have hard times as a Celtic fan hoping team get rid of Jaylen and they (rightly) don't. Franchise is high on jaylen, stop hating and enjoy the journey. People you want on the Celtics never made playoffs in their life.

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Post#1375 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:52 pm

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I think you've had enough booze for the night bro. Chill out you're usually calm through all these trade threads.


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Post#1376 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:54 pm

bisme37 wrote:I'm a little concerned that trading Schroo will result in the team missing Schroo. For all his faults we don't exactly have a ton of guys who can break down the defense and get their own shot.


What are his numbers when Jaylen plays? I can't remember. Is he scoring because he has to, does he have a role when we're healthy?
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Post#1377 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:00 pm

We can't get Bagley but I wish there were a fit. His per minute counting stats have always been good, should smooth out the three, fluid and athletic, defense becoming tolerable, and he's a guy who missed a lot of development time to injuries. That could mean it's too late or it could mean he just needs reps. In a vacuum he'd be worth a gamble.
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Post#1378 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:15 pm

all I've got for a Bagley idea is that he's a small piece in a three team deal, Horford to a better team/contender, Bagley and Hield to us, X to the Kings.. or Hield to the third team, X to SAC, Y to BOS. Not really worth it unless you want to do right by Al and Bagley is like 20-30 percent of the returning value.
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Post#1379 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:28 pm

Brooklyn is open to trading Joe Harris for some reason?
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Post#1380 » by bisme37 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:14 pm

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bisme37 wrote:I'm a little concerned that trading Schroo will result in the team missing Schroo. For all his faults we don't exactly have a ton of guys who can break down the defense and get their own shot.


What are his numbers when Jaylen plays? I can't remember. Is he scoring because he has to, does he have a role when we're healthy?


Schroo's individual numbers go up quite a bit when he starts in place of Jaylen. But the team defense gets worse and the overall results have been worse.

I just think he adds a dimension we would otherwise lack, as far as getting to the rim and increasing the pace of the offense. And he's talented and we aren't exactly overflowing with talent in general. I don't know why he can't come off the bench and give us a boost even if his role is decreased. And I mean, it's not like we're likely to be fully healthy for the rest of the year, whether it be injuries or covid.

I'm not president of the dude's fan club or anything. But he's a useful talented player and I'm surprised people are so eager to dump him. If we do trade him it would be nice to get an actual talent upgrade in the deal, but I'm not really seeing anything like that being proposed. So I'm just thinking, yo, we need more good players, not fewer.

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