Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017

Celts17Pride · Post #1381 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:42 pm

KGboss wrote:
He also had an interesting answer for signing a free agent first and then trading for a player

In general, what was it?

KGboss · Post #1382 » by **KGboss** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:06 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
KGboss wrote:
He also had an interesting answer for signing a free agent first and then trading for a player

In general, what was it?

Basically that it doesnt have to be a sign then trade scenario but the cap is unforgiving so to make some things work other things will have to fall into place.

Celts17Pride · Post #1383 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:18 pm

KGboss wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
KGboss wrote:
He also had an interesting answer for signing a free agent first and then trading for a player

In general, what was it?

Basically that it doesnt have to be a sign then trade scenario but the cap is unforgiving so to make some things work other things will have to fall into place.

Thanks!

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1384 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:04 pm

KGboss wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
KGboss wrote:
He also had an interesting answer for signing a free agent first and then trading for a player

In general, what was it?

Basically that it doesnt have to be a sign then trade scenario but the cap is unforgiving so to make some things work other things will have to fall into place.

There's just no way, short of trading Smart, Tatum or Brown in a salary dump.

The only thing I can imagine is that you could deal Bradley, Crowder, Rozier to match salary for George, then deal Smart for someone making roughly 2.8 million a year or less - just a rough calculation, might be off. Guys in that category include Saric, Capela, Gary Harris, Cameron Payne, Justise Winslow.. Myles Turner, if we wanted to add Smart, and more assets to the deal - a lotto pick, basically.

Or, if we traded Jaylen/Marcus to the Knicks for Porzingis - they'll be under the cap - we'd clear a few million in salary, and possibly be able to keep Rozier out of a George deal.

ViperGTS · Post #1385 » by **ViperGTS** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:11 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
KGboss wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:In general, what was it?

Basically that it doesnt have to be a sign then trade scenario but the cap is unforgiving so to make some things work other things will have to fall into place.

There's just no way, short of trading Smart, Tatum or Brown in a salary dump.

The only thing I can imagine is that you could deal Bradley, Crowder, Rozier to match salary for George, then deal Smart for someone making roughly 2.8 million a year or less - just a rough calculation, might be off. Guys in that category include Saric, Capela, Gary Harris, Cameron Payne, Justise Winslow.. Myles Turner, if we wanted to add Smart, and more assets to the deal - a lotto pick, basically.

Or, if we traded Jaylen/Marcus to the Knicks for Porzingis - they'll be under the cap - we'd clear a few million in salary, and possibly be able to keep Rozier out of a George deal.

Take Jaylen out of any deal. Makes life easier on everyone.

Green_teamer · Post #1386 » by **Green_teamer** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:26 pm

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Andrew McCeltic · Post #1387 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:27 pm

IT/Rozier/Allen
Hayward/Gerald Green
Paul George/Ojeleye/Nader
Horford/Tatum/Yabusele
Porzingis/Zizic

Pz is a gamble, Smart is a defensive star, Jaylen is a great young prospect. But you'd get over it fast.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1388 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:31 pm

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Minnesota lucked out. We were holding back the 3, Denver was holding back Jamal Murray.. think Chicago could've had either if they waited. They blinked, but instead of taking a bad offer from us or Denver, they took Minnesota's best bad offer.

gammajamma · Post #1389 » by **gammajamma** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:36 pm

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I think they should make a run at Millsap

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yeahM8 · Post #1390 » by **yeahM8** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:40 pm

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fallguy · Post #1391 » by **fallguy** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:37 pm

I think Ainge will hold tight to Jaylen and Tatum. Think they're off-limits in any deal.

Gant · Post #1392 » by **Gant** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:42 pm

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Scratch Minnesota off the list of teams that's potentially worse than the Lakers or Nets (well, they were never threatening the Nets). Thibs has them going places.

Fidel Sarcasmo · Post #1393 » by **Fidel Sarcasmo** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:49 pm

fallguy wrote:I think Ainge will hold tight to Jaylen and Tatum. Think they're off-limits in any deal.

And Zizic too. they need quality players with high upside and bright futures on cheap contracts. The Jordan Mickey's of the world are goners if it's a cap equation.

Kefa461 · Post #1394 » by **Kefa461** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:12 pm

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welcome to Boston.......

8-)

gocelts · Post #1395 » by **gocelts** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:43 pm

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Anything that makes the Lakers weaker is a win. Beef up Minnesota!!! We'll give you Jackson if you need him!

jfs1000d · Post #1396 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:54 pm

chrisab123 wrote:It's funny that I'm on a fan forum that has posters who care about Wyc's bottom line concerning the luxury tax. He's already on record as not giving a **** about paying it for a contender. If they trade for George I'm about 90% sure he resigns. It would mean another player is probably coming in as well. Why leave that?

Wyc ain't worried about his money, I ain't worried.

If he can't afford it, they can add another investor. I am sure cash flow is OK with the Celtics.

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Post #1397 » by **Froob** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:10 am

Why hasn't Mike Zarren gotten a GM job yet?

OFWGKTA · Post #1398 » by **OFWGKTA** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:11 am

Froob wrote:Why hasn't Mike Zarren gotten a GM job yet?

Danny wants a couple more ships then he's taking over

jfs1000d · Post #1399 » by **jfs1000d** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:14 am

OFWGKTA wrote:
Froob wrote:Why hasn't Mike Zarren gotten a GM job yet?

Danny wants a couple more ships then he's taking over

Probably likes the brain trust, and I bet Ainge is going to give up those duties in several years. He is now 14 years and counting. Wow.

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jmr07019 · Post #1400 » by **jmr07019** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:15 am

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Man if they get 1 of those guys they are gonna be a damn good team next year.