Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

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What happened? How did he go from starting 21 games last year to training camp deal only?

Romeo Langford stinks. When has Langford ever been good?

high school legend in whatever **** small town he's from
I want all of my Romeo Langford invested time back

More than just his town. Didn't he have long autograph lines at away games?

[zoyathedestroya]

Romeo Langford stinks. When has Langford ever been good?

high school legend in whatever **** small town he's from
I want all of my Romeo Langford invested time back

More than just his town. Didn't he have long autograph lines at away games?

He was indeed a high school sensation in Indiana. I should know. I wasted five hours of my life watching his team's 10-part documentary on Crackle.

[GoGreen]

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Whoa, okay, didn't expect this. Time to watch some highlights!

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I would sign Lamar Stevens to round out the roster. Thank you Blake Griffin for last year, enjoy your retirement.

Since the team had Lamar, Robinson III, King, Warren in already at wing, and then went with Svi, my guess is the last spot will be a big. Who knows though. If they just re-sign Blake at this point, I'm happy. We got a shooter, and good compliment to our bench since the recent guys were more defensive in Brissette, Banton, and Walsh.

I mostly agree with that, but I think Brissett and Banton are actually both a little bit better offensively than they are defensively - despite both of them having some shooting concerns.

Offseason additions:
KP - more of an offensive weapon than a defensive one
Brissett - a little better on O than D
Svi - better on O than on D
Walsh - better on D than on O
Banton - better on O than on D

Seems like pretty good balance, but we actually upgraded the offense more than the defense.

The common thread that all 5 offseason additions have is size. 7'3", 6'7" with a 7'0" wingspan, 6'7", 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan and 6'9" with a 6'10 wingspan

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I would sign Lamar Stevens to round out the roster. Thank you Blake Griffin for last year, enjoy your retirement.

Since the team had Lamar, Robinson III, King, Warren in already at wing, and then went with Svi, my guess is the last spot will be a big. Who knows though. If they just re-sign Blake at this point, I'm happy. We got a shooter, and good compliment to our bench since the recent guys were more defensive in Brissette, Banton, and Walsh.

I mostly agree with that, but I think Brissett and Banton are actually both a little bit better offensively than they are defensively - even though they both have shooting concerns.

Offseason additions:
KP - more of an offensive weapon than a defensive one
Brissett - a little better on O than D
Svi - better on O than on D
Walsh - better on D than on O
Banton - better on O than on D

Seems like pretty good balance, but we actually upgraded the offense more than the defense.

The common thread that all 5 offseason additions have is size. 7'3", 6'7" with a 7'0" wingspan, 6'7", 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan and 6'9" with a 6'10 wingspan

We need guys like that to cover for Pritchard.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

Brissett is a good defensive 4, but struggles on the perimeter for the most part. It will come down to if he can get back to hitting his threes, if he does, he will play real minutes. If not, Walsh will have a real opportunity to get some minutes later in the season.

Banton more of a wildcard, he has a really low floor for this team, but has good role player upside. Defensively, he generates a lot of turnovers, but is prone to getting beat off the dribble.

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Brissett is a good defensive 4, but struggles on the perimeter for the most part. It will come down to if he can get back to hitting his threes, if he does, he will play real minutes. If not, Walsh will have a real opportunity to get some minutes later in the season.

Banton more of a wildcard, he has a really low floor for this team, but has good role player upside. Defensively, he generates a lot of turnovers, but is prone to getting beat off the dribble.

Yeah I'd agree with pretty much all of that. It does seem like Brissett is better defending closer to the basket, and not as good defending quicker guys out on the perimeter. And agree that the shot falling will be critical for him to get minutes..

[Dogen]

I would sign Lamar Stevens to round out the roster. Thank you Blake Griffin for last year, enjoy your retirement.

Since the team had Lamar, Robinson III, King, Warren in already at wing, and then went with Svi, my guess is the last spot will be a big. Who knows though. If they just re-sign Blake at this point, I'm happy. We got a shooter, and good compliment to our bench since the recent guys were more defensive in Brissette, Banton, and Walsh.

I mostly agree with that, but I think Brissett and Banton are actually both a little bit better offensively than they are defensively - despite both of them having some shooting concerns.

Offseason additions:
KP - more of an offensive weapon than a defensive one
Brissett - a little better on O than D
Svi - better on O than on D
Walsh - better on D than on O
Banton - better on O than on D

Seems like pretty good balance, but we actually upgraded the offense more than the defense.

The common thread that all 5 offseason additions have is size. 7'3", 6'7" with a 7'0" wingspan, 6'7", 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan and 6'9" with a 6'10 wingspan

Interesting take on Banton. Maybe I'm biased toward his defense because of the long wingspan and the couple of times I saw him play Celtics when he was with Toronto. From his summer league, I'd give him an "incomplete" score. He's not much of a shooter, and we haven't seen him do much offensively yet. Is Banton guaranteed?

[Dogen]

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Malcolm/Payton for DeRozan/Caruso works in the checker : https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7860139

DDR could step into that 6th man roll quite nicely. What else would you include to make that happen?

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Since the team had Lamar, Robinson III, King, Warren in already at wing, and then went with Svi, my guess is the last spot will be a big. Who knows though. If they just re-sign Blake at this point, I'm happy. We got a shooter, and good compliment to our bench since the recent guys were more defensive in Brissette, Banton, and Walsh.

I mostly agree with that, but I think Brissett and Banton are actually both a little bit better offensively than they are defensively - despite both of them having some shooting concerns.

Offseason additions:
KP - more of an offensive weapon than a defensive one
Brissett - a little better on O than D
Svi - better on O than on D
Walsh - better on D than on O
Banton - better on O than on D

Seems like pretty good balance, but we actually upgraded the offense more than the defense.

The common thread that all 5 offseason additions have is size. 7'3", 6'7" with a 7'0" wingspan, 6'7", 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan and 6'9" with a 6'10 wingspan

Interesting take on Banton. Maybe I'm biased toward his defense because of the long wingspan and the couple of times I saw him play Celtics when he was with Toronto. From his summer league, I'd give him an "incomplete" score. He's not much of a shooter, and we haven't seen him do much offensively yet. Is Banton guaranteed?

I don't really factor in summer league much at all with him. He played only 2 games, had just met the guys he was playing with like the day before - and most of his teammates weren't NBA level players..and he was playing with a finger injury. There was that 1 play he made though that I really liked, where he drove from the right wing, got a step on his man and did a nice dipsy-do finish near the basket over the help defender

I mean I guess he's probably equally good at both O and D..cause he does a pretty good job of wreaking havoc on D and forcing turnovers and the shooting isn't very good. But he does sometimes get beat off the dribble on D..

On offense, even though he isn't a very good shooter..
a) I think his shot is better than people think, for reasons I stated in the Banton thread the other day
b) his passing/playmaking is good
c) Perhaps most impressive imo is his driving ability, his ability to handle the ball (in the half court or in the open floor), push the pace with his dribble, get downhill, pressure the rim and keep pressure on the defense with that handle/driving ability. And he's typically playing the 1 or the 2 (often times the 1) which means he's usually got a much smaller defender on him, making him even tougher to contain off the dribble for those little defenders.

His contract is not fully guaranteed. But it does seem likely he'll make the roster - unless he totally bombs in training camp/preseason.

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Javale Mcgee signs with the Kings. Cross him off the list of guys we could maybe sign to the 15th spot if we go with a big man..

Seems like Blake is gonna be the guy..

The top FA bigs left....

Christian Wood
Blake Griffin
Usman Garuba
JaMychal Green
Wenyen Gabriel
Bismack Biyombo

One other thought regarding FA bigs...one might argue that we have 4 guys who's ideal position at this point in their career is center. Rob we all know is more of a 5 than a 4. Kornet can only play the 5. Al with age is better suited for the 5, although he still *can* play the 4. KP, I think with his mobility is better as a stretch 5 than a 4.

And, we currently have 0 guys on the roster who's ideal position is the 4. Tatum is better at the 3, Hauser and Walsh are better suited for the 3. Brisett I think can certainly play the 3 or the 4, but is Brissett's ideal position the 4? I'm not totally sure about that.

So again, some might say that right now we have 4 guys who's ideal position is the 5 and 0 guys who's ideal position is the 4. So, shouldn't we look to sign a 4 with this last roster spot? Ideally, a 4 who can also slide over to a small ball 5, if needed..

What FA fits that description from a position standpoint, and is actually good? IDK, honestly. Jeff Green would've been nice but he signed with Houston, obviously. Darius Bazley would've fit the bit, but he's now a Net..all the FA bigs I listed above are better suited for the 5. Except perhaps Wood is more of a 4 (or a true combo 4/5) ? I doubt we sign Wood, though...but maybe?

[steefP2]

Javale Mcgee signs with the Kings. Cross him off the list of guys we could maybe sign to the 15th spot if we go with a big man..

Seems like Blake is gonna be the guy..

The top FA bigs left....

Christian Wood
Blake Griffin
Usman Garuba
JaMychal Green
Wenyen Gabriel
Bismack Biyombo

One other thought regarding FA bigs...one might argue that we have 4 guys who's ideal position at this point in their career is center. Rob we all know is more of a 5 than a 4. Kornet can only play the 5. Al with age is better suited for the 5, although he still *can* play the 4. KP, I think with his mobility is better as a stretch 5 than a 4.

And, we currently have 0 guys on the roster who's ideal position is the 4. Tatum is better at the 3, Hauser and Walsh are better suited for the 3. Brisett I think can certainly play the 3 or the 4, but is Brissett's ideal position the 4? I'm not totally sure about that.

So again, some might say that right now we have 4 guys who's ideal position is the 5 and 0 guys who's ideal position is the 4. So, shouldn't we look to sign a 4 with this last roster spot? Ideally, a 4 who can also slide over to a small ball 5, if needed..

What FA fits that description from a position standpoint, and is actually good? IDK, honestly. Jeff Green would've been nice but he signed with Houston, obviously. Darius Bazley would've fit the bit, but he's now a Net..all the FA bigs I listed above are better suited for the 5. Except perhaps Wood is more of a 4 (or a true combo 4/5) ? I doubt we sign Wood, though...but maybe?

Brisett definitely best as a 4. Tatum isn't better as a 3 or 4, just different strengths getting accentuated but him and the team have performed differently but equally well with him in either spot. But a true 4 is kind of a dying breed, its mostly guys like gallo or grant. Most good 4's are either versatile 5's or big wings. Anyway just get blake and call it an off season.

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If Brad is Brad, that 15th spot will go unfilled for roster and trade flexibility...

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Tatum is the best American-born player in the league -- perhaps unless you take the optimistic view of one of the Phoenix guys -- and everybody likes him. So it's natural for him to be at least low-key buddies with a whole lot of other players.

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[Curmudgeon]

I was going to say that Garuba is by far the best defensive pf left on the market. Allows Tatum to play the 3 more often.

[GoCeltics123]

After the acquisition, the Celtics still have one more available roster spot plus further flexibility with Banton’s deal only partially guaranteed and Luke Kornet on a non-guaranteed contract. They are still considering veterans for the final spot, a team source indicated.

https://theathletic.com/4824005/2023/09/01/celtics-sign-svi-mykhailiuk/

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Javale Mcgee signs with the Kings. Cross him off the list of guys we could maybe sign to the 15th spot if we go with a big man..

Seems like Blake is gonna be the guy..

The top FA bigs left....

Christian Wood
Blake Griffin
Usman Garuba
JaMychal Green
Wenyen Gabriel
Bismack Biyombo

One other thought regarding FA bigs...one might argue that we have 4 guys who's ideal position at this point in their career is center. Rob we all know is more of a 5 than a 4. Kornet can only play the 5. Al with age is better suited for the 5, although he still *can* play the 4. KP, I think with his mobility is better as a stretch 5 than a 4.

And, we currently have 0 guys on the roster who's ideal position is the 4. Tatum is better at the 3, Hauser and Walsh are better suited for the 3. Brisett I think can certainly play the 3 or the 4, but is Brissett's ideal position the 4? I'm not totally sure about that.

So again, some might say that right now we have 4 guys who's ideal position is the 5 and 0 guys who's ideal position is the 4. So, shouldn't we look to sign a 4 with this last roster spot? Ideally, a 4 who can also slide over to a small ball 5, if needed..

What FA fits that description from a position standpoint, and is actually good? IDK, honestly. Jeff Green would've been nice but he signed with Houston, obviously. Darius Bazley would've fit the bit, but he's now a Net..all the FA bigs I listed above are better suited for the 5. Except perhaps Wood is more of a 4 (or a true combo 4/5) ? I doubt we sign Wood, though...but maybe?

Brisett definitely best as a 4. Tatum isn't better as a 3 or 4, just different strengths getting accentuated but him and the team have performed differently but equally well with him in either spot. But a true 4 is kind of a dying breed, its mostly guys like gallo or grant. Most good 4's are either versatile 5's or big wings. Anyway just get blake and call it an off season.

Agreed with the bold part. And with the other stuff, to some extent.

[ConstableGeneva]

After the acquisition, the Celtics still have one more available roster spot plus further flexibility with Banton’s deal only partially guaranteed and Luke Kornet on a non-guaranteed contract. They are still considering veterans for the final spot, a team source indicated.

https://theathletic.com/4824005/2023/09/01/celtics-sign-svi-mykhailiuk/

Does the article explicitly say if Svi's contract is fully guaranteed? Don't see it reported on Twitter.