Celtics 2025, Off-Season Thread

[robdog_5]

Brown is the guy to trade. Next best option is Porzingas cause he will be expiring. So someone can take a shot on him for one year and clear some money. So we maybe able to get a flyer or a different piece.

Think Jrue is declining and long term money, not sure you can trade him. White is the most valuable probably but he makes a good chunk of money for a 3rd maybe really good 4th option.

[FlyBono]

Regardless if Tatum is out long or short term it’s the 21st century NBA
Analytics, 3 point shots at all cost, ISO ball. The days of a legit low post game are over
This all came to light in Games 1 and 2

Build around Tatum White Pritchard BS and possibly Queta
Rest of the Roster can go, along with Joe, who proved in games 1 and 2 that he cannot adapt or simply change philosophy to win games with a 20 point lead, ridiculous and mind boggling

Disappointment to say the least

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

The Celtics may not be a Title Contender for another two to three years, but the good news is they've conquered the Real GM Trade Board...

[dortmunder]

What a disaster. How sad. What a way to end the season and a cycle.

[chrisab123]

Yeah I’m sorry but the fanbase on here is gross right now. You all can’t wait to dump everyone off this team, especially Brown. In the off chance it’s not an Achilles injury, you people will still want to tank since Tatum will probably miss the start of next year. Thankfully Brad probably won’t blow this up. Will he trade pieces? Yes. But they won’t go nuclear, go back to being irrelevant, and give you what you want. Tanking is not a guarantee. The Jazz have been trying to tank and they’re failing miserably. The team that won the lottery had a 1.8% chance of doing so.

[ThePigeon]

Yeah I’m sorry but the fanbase on here is gross right now. You all can’t wait to dump everyone off this team, especially Brown. In the off chance it’s not an Achilles injury, you people will still want to tank since Tatum will probably miss the start of next year. Thankfully Brad probably won’t blow this up. Will he trade pieces? Yes. But they won’t go nuclear, go back to being irrelevant, and give you what you want. Tanking is not a guarantee. The Jazz have been trying to tank and they’re failing miserably. The team that won the lottery had a 1.8% chance of doing so.

Gross or realistic or lost faith
The future course is dependent on the MRI and the tax bill

Players will be traded either way
Some will leave
Al might retire, Kornet might not take the minimum, KP/Jrue/JB/Hauser are all candidates for trade because of tax considerations
The injury just adds more complication

I agree that the series isn't over yet and we expect the team to fight, but it will be hard without JT and the knowledge of the magnitude of the injury
I expect us to at least win in Boston. Can't go out like this

[Fierce1]

Win Game 5 for JT.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Win Game 5 for JT.

Win 11 more games this season for JT.

[tfribs45]

Yeah I’m sorry but the fanbase on here is gross right now. You all can’t wait to dump everyone off this team, especially Brown. In the off chance it’s not an Achilles injury, you people will still want to tank since Tatum will probably miss the start of next year. Thankfully Brad probably won’t blow this up. Will he trade pieces? Yes. But they won’t go nuclear, go back to being irrelevant, and give you what you want. Tanking is not a guarantee. The Jazz have been trying to tank and they’re failing miserably. The team that won the lottery had a 1.8% chance of doing so.

agreed, it's kind of pathetic.... How quickly everyone forgets who the Finals MVP was last year?! winning back to back is a tall task and he's been playing injured throughout. KP has been God Awful and Joe refused to try and get a spark from anyone on our bench. Thibs made Joe look like an AAU coach this series. I doubt Celtics brass will change anything, but he's amateur hour on the sidelines and def contributed to this epic collapse. That being said, I want a reload not a rebuild! Sure there's going to be some changes, but the skies not falling.

[cloverleaf]

Win Game 5 for JT.

Win 11 more games this season for JT.

That's a tall order with your best player gone, 2nd best a physical player who for now has lost his physicality, 3rd best playing as a shell of himself just a few minutes a game due to sickness, and another of your top 8 out as well.

They're about as beat up as the teams the C's won over to get their championship last year.

[chrisab123]

Yeah I’m sorry but the fanbase on here is gross right now. You all can’t wait to dump everyone off this team, especially Brown. In the off chance it’s not an Achilles injury, you people will still want to tank since Tatum will probably miss the start of next year. Thankfully Brad probably won’t blow this up. Will he trade pieces? Yes. But they won’t go nuclear, go back to being irrelevant, and give you what you want. Tanking is not a guarantee. The Jazz have been trying to tank and they’re failing miserably. The team that won the lottery had a 1.8% chance of doing so.

agreed, it's kind of pathetic.... How quickly everyone forgets who the Finals MVP was last year?! winning back to back is a tall task and he's been playing injured throughout. KP has been God Awful and Joe refused to try and get a spark from anyone on our bench. Thibs made Joe look like an AAU coach this series. I doubt Celtics brass will change anything, but he's amateur hour on the sidelines and def contributed to this epic collapse. That being said, I want a reload not a rebuild! Sure there's going to be some changes, but the skies not falling.

Brown has always been a target on here though. Some of the posters were pissed that he didn’t just “shut up and dribble” and a few others were pissed that it was Marcus shipped out and not him. Brown is an excellent player who is extremely underrated here. Even if they keep him people are going to be even more pissed because he’s not a “Celtic” despite the fact that Bill Russell had a lot of the same ideals as him and was Mr. Celtic for the longest time. Fans are fickle.

[itrsteve]

Yeah I’m sorry but the fanbase on here is gross right now. You all can’t wait to dump everyone off this team, especially Brown. In the off chance it’s not an Achilles injury, you people will still want to tank since Tatum will probably miss the start of next year. Thankfully Brad probably won’t blow this up. Will he trade pieces? Yes. But they won’t go nuclear, go back to being irrelevant, and give you what you want. Tanking is not a guarantee. The Jazz have been trying to tank and they’re failing miserably. The team that won the lottery had a 1.8% chance of doing so.

agreed, it's kind of pathetic.... How quickly everyone forgets who the Finals MVP was last year?! winning back to back is a tall task and he's been playing injured throughout. KP has been God Awful and Joe refused to try and get a spark from anyone on our bench. Thibs made Joe look like an AAU coach this series. I doubt Celtics brass will change anything, but he's amateur hour on the sidelines and def contributed to this epic collapse. That being said, I want a reload not a rebuild! Sure there's going to be some changes, but the skies not falling.

Brown has always been a target on here though. Some of the posters were pissed that he didn’t just “shut up and dribble” and a few others were pissed that it was Marcus shipped out and not him. Brown is an excellent player who is extremely underrated here. Even if they keep him people are going to be even more pissed because he’s not a “Celtic” despite the fact that Bill Russell had a lot of the same ideals as him and was Mr. Celtic for the longest time. Fans are fickle.

Ah ****, sounds like the race argument is coming out? That's beyond intellectually lazy, watch the games.

No it's because the guy is on a $300m contract and has zero accountability to not routinely fumbling the ball and consistently making bonehead plays. It's exhausting. That's why we put so much on Derrick White's plate because we know JB cannot be relied on and his deficiencies will be on full display with Tatum gone and then we're stuck with him until 2028/2029. It's not racism, it's reality.

I'm more than happy to be wrong and he just goes nuts for the remainder of the playoffs but we all know it isn't happening.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Tanking for a year while JT is out sounds reasonable to me. I would like to see Taylor Jenkins coaching this team. Joe, KP, JB must go. White and Pritch should stay. I don't care about the rest.

[chrisab123]

agreed, it's kind of pathetic.... How quickly everyone forgets who the Finals MVP was last year?! winning back to back is a tall task and he's been playing injured throughout. KP has been God Awful and Joe refused to try and get a spark from anyone on our bench. Thibs made Joe look like an AAU coach this series. I doubt Celtics brass will change anything, but he's amateur hour on the sidelines and def contributed to this epic collapse. That being said, I want a reload not a rebuild! Sure there's going to be some changes, but the skies not falling.

Brown has always been a target on here though. Some of the posters were pissed that he didn’t just “shut up and dribble” and a few others were pissed that it was Marcus shipped out and not him. Brown is an excellent player who is extremely underrated here. Even if they keep him people are going to be even more pissed because he’s not a “Celtic” despite the fact that Bill Russell had a lot of the same ideals as him and was Mr. Celtic for the longest time. Fans are fickle.

Ah ****, sounds like the race argument is coming out? That's beyond intellectually lazy, watch the games.

No it's because the guy is on a $300m contract and has zero accountability to not routinely fumbling the ball and consistently making bonehead plays. It's exhausting. That's why we put so much on Derrick White's plate because we know JB cannot be relied on and his deficiencies will be on full display with Tatum gone and then we're stuck with him until 2028/2029. It's not racism, it's reality.

I'm more than happy to be wrong and he just goes nuts for the remainder of the playoffs but we all know it isn't happening.

I wasn’t even referring to you on the shut up and dribble thing but for example Boston Couch GM was always on here saying that **** about Brown. So yeah it happens and it’s not really lazy. Lots of people showed their colors when Brown talked about race. But whatever it’s all good, I’m not saying that’s why you hate the guy. I have no clue why you do.

It usually falls into three categories

- Shut up and dribble

- He’s overpaid (even though that logic was used on his previous contract which was a massive steal)

-Marcus should have stayed over him.



The dude won the finals MVP last year and played his ass off. You guys all talk about him like he’s a league average player.

[itrsteve]

Brown has always been a target on here though. Some of the posters were pissed that he didn’t just “shut up and dribble” and a few others were pissed that it was Marcus shipped out and not him. Brown is an excellent player who is extremely underrated here. Even if they keep him people are going to be even more pissed because he’s not a “Celtic” despite the fact that Bill Russell had a lot of the same ideals as him and was Mr. Celtic for the longest time. Fans are fickle.

Ah ****, sounds like the race argument is coming out? That's beyond intellectually lazy, watch the games.

No it's because the guy is on a $300m contract and has zero accountability to not routinely fumbling the ball and consistently making bonehead plays. It's exhausting. That's why we put so much on Derrick White's plate because we know JB cannot be relied on and his deficiencies will be on full display with Tatum gone and then we're stuck with him until 2028/2029. It's not racism, it's reality.

I'm more than happy to be wrong and he just goes nuts for the remainder of the playoffs but we all know it isn't happening.

I wasn’t even referring to you on the shut up and dribble thing but for example Boston Couch GM was always on here saying that **** about Brown. So yeah it happens and it’s not really lazy. The dude won the finals MVP last year and played his ass off. You guys all talk about him like he’s a league average player.

Apologies for that. I never caught the shut up and dribble comment, which is widely unacceptable.

I've long been a fan of JB - my 7yo has his shoes, multiple jerseys, my wife has a bunch of 7uice gear as well. We've historically been a pro-JB household.

He flipped a switch for that killer championship run but outside of a few flashes this season, he hasn't had it. The thought of him running the show for next season is terrifying relative to the contract on the books and I worry that we could be headed to some dark times with the new CBA if the idea is to ride it out with him.

But I'll put my paranoia away - Brad is at the wheel and will trust whatever he decides to do, hopefully he has the autonomy with the new ownership.

[Ben-N1ce]

Trade JB for Giannis and KP and Jrue for Jokic and they are cooking again.

[31to6]

Win Game 5 for JT.

Win 11 more games this season for JT.

That's a tall order with your best player gone, 2nd best a physical player who for now has lost his physicality, 3rd best playing as a shell of himself just a few minutes a game due to sickness, and another of your top 8 out as well.

They're about as beat up as the teams the C's won over to get their championship last year.

Funny thing is though the Celtics could still kick NYK's ass tomorrow night and it wouldn't be that surprising.
Jrue/White/90% JB/Al/50% KP
with Pritchard and Luke and no one else off the bench
or go small with Jrue/Pritch/White/JB/Al and the dynamic duo of KP and Luke as your only subs
If Al had an extra day of rest I'd talk myself into believing that kicking the Knicks' ass is exactly what will happen

[Darthlukey]

Well, next season is going to suck from a contention perspective. But the silver lining is that it opens up so many more possibilities - do we try as hard as we can without out main man, do we dump salary and save tax and hope to rebound the following season or do we tank the **** out the season and try to reload in the lottery? I highly doubt we take the tanking route, but it is an option

[canman1971]

Well, next season is going to suck from a contention perspective. But the silver lining is that it opens up so many more possibilities - do we try as hard as we can without out main man, do we dump salary and save tax and hope to rebound the following season or do we tank the **** out the season and try to reload in the lottery? I highly doubt we take the tanking route, but it is an option

Good question. There is no silver lining in this one, but the question is, does it give new ownership an "out" to shed a bunch of salary and use it as a reset until JT returns. I mean, it might make Stevens' job slightly "easier" if they don't feel they can contend next year.

[Darthlukey]

Well, next season is going to suck from a contention perspective. But the silver lining is that it opens up so many more possibilities - do we try as hard as we can without out main man, do we dump salary and save tax and hope to rebound the following season or do we tank the **** out the season and try to reload in the lottery? I highly doubt we take the tanking route, but it is an option

Good question. There is no silver lining in this one, but the question is, does it give new ownership an "out" to shed a bunch of salary and use it as a reset until JT returns. I mean, it might make Stevens' job slightly "easier" if they don't feel they can contend next year.

Silver lining probably not the right term, but i'm looking for anything I can spin as positive! Agree with the above though about shedding salary and GMBS having an "easier" time doing it