2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

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Simons is a 6,3" poor man's Tatum
Not bad Brad. Keep strong!!!

Tatum is so important for their D!

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Nobody's complaining about Haliburton's bad defense.

Offense still trumps defense in the game of basketball.

In Game 4 against the Knicks, the Celtics couldn't score in crunch time.

I think Celtic fans will end up loving Simons once the season is in full swing.

There is a massive difference between the ceiling Hali had and the ceiling Simons has. Massive. Even when he was in Sacramento, you always looked at him as your best scoring option by far. Simons not so much. But yeah he won’t kill your offense, although this is going to empower Joe to shoot more 3s. That’s scary.

Just wondering Hauser Simons and 28 to Brooklyn for 8 would work under CBA rules since it gets under the 2nd apron. Interesting. Something like this is probably the play.

Then potentially a Porzingis extension at slightly under market value.

They aren’t moving White or Brown unless it’s for something insane where they can be a contender when Tatum comes back.

Moving him on right away is definitely in play otoh they need competent bodies to play, they are down 4000+ minutes without Jrue and Tatum, plus no guarantee of Horford/Korner coming back.

So there def could be more moves but I think Brad wants to have competent live bodies around for the immediate future rather than go the other direction personnel-wise.

[Fierce1]

There is a massive difference between the ceiling Hali had and the ceiling Simons has. Massive. Even when he was in Sacramento, you always looked at him as your best scoring option by far. Simons not so much. But yeah he won’t kill your offense, although this is going to empower Joe to shoot more 3s. That’s scary.

Just wondering Hauser Simons and 28 to Brooklyn for 8 would work under CBA rules since it gets under the 2nd apron. Interesting. Something like this is probably the play.

Then potentially a Porzingis extension at slightly under market value.

They aren’t moving White or Brown unless it’s for something insane where they can be a contender when Tatum comes back.

If you're expecting the Cs to get in the lottery this week, you'll be disappointed.

Simons will not be moved any time soon.

According to reports, KP will be gone soon.

If the Cs are moving KP, that means they're keeping Simons.

The reports haven’t said he’s not being moved anytime soon it’s that they made the move with keeping him in mind but they’re open. Moving KP at his lowest value when you don’t need to is something that is a choice, not a good choice but it’s a choice. It’s also one that could potentially piss off Brown since that’s his guy.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6447146/2025/06/23/celtics-jrue-holiday-trade-trail-blazers-nba/
Even after the move, the Celtics still need to trim nearly $20 million to get under the second luxury tax apron and another $20 million beyond that to escape the luxury tax entirely. Because of that, league sources believe the Holiday trade will be only the first domino to fall for Boston. The Celtics are still shopping other players, including Kristaps Porziņģis, with an eye on alleviating their salary-cap dilemma, according to league sources.

[phincsfan]

I’m gonna hold out hope for a draft day trade involving Simons.

[itrsteve]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

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I’m gonna hold out hope for a draft day trade involving Simons.

Sounds good to me. BTW, little dude who wore heels at the combine: 6'3.5" with shoes, but just 6'1.5" without them.

[Fierce1]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

2nd apron is at 207m.

If the Cs want to go below 207m, it has to be KP.

[chrisab123]

If you're expecting the Cs to get in the lottery this week, you'll be disappointed.

Simons will not be moved any time soon.

According to reports, KP will be gone soon.

If the Cs are moving KP, that means they're keeping Simons.

The reports haven’t said he’s not being moved anytime soon it’s that they made the move with keeping him in mind but they’re open. Moving KP at his lowest value when you don’t need to is something that is a choice, not a good choice but it’s a choice. It’s also one that could potentially piss off Brown since that’s his guy.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6447146/2025/06/23/celtics-jrue-holiday-trade-trail-blazers-nba/
Even after the move, the Celtics still need to trim nearly $20 million to get under the second luxury tax apron and another $20 million beyond that to escape the luxury tax entirely. Because of that, league sources believe the Holiday trade will be only the first domino to fall for Boston. The Celtics are still shopping other players, including Kristaps Porziņģis, with an eye on alleviating their salary-cap dilemma, according to league sources.

Sure. It still doesn’t say in there that they won’t flip Simons. The KP stuff has been around since probably February. I’m saying it doesn’t make sense to move him at his lowest value not that they won’t. If you think about it logically, Simons really isn’t a fit other than he can score and costs 28 million next year. We at least know that KP works within this system if healthy.

[chrisab123]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

2nd apron is at 207m.

If the Cs want to go below 207m, it has to be KP.

Again technically it doesn’t have to be KP. He’s one of the options. Other options are Brown White and Simons. But to get under one of the four need to be dealt.

[Fierce1]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

2nd apron is at 207m.

If the Cs want to go below 207m, it has to be KP.

Again technically it doesn’t have to be KP. He’s one of the options. Other options are Brown White and Simons. But to get under one of the four need to be dealt.

My money is on KP.

[itrsteve]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

2nd apron is at 207m.

If the Cs want to go below 207m, it has to be KP.

Correct, but there isn't a team who is going to absorb him into space so we'll be subtracting salary and then adding some back. So we'll have to lose a lot more than just him.

Hauser and Pritchard are really our only tradeable middle class contracts. Which makes an easy target if we can get a team with cap room to absorb Hauser, may even have to attach some 2RP's, so now you just removed $10m from that 18. Or do we roll the dice and see if KP can find some suitors before the deadline, or eat all the penalties this season and just let his contract expire?

Either way in Brad we trust, this will be the most interesting off-season of his career.

[Celts17Pride]

People are overthinking this in my opinion, Stevens got an expiring contract and two 2nd round picks for a 35 year old who had $104 million and 3 years left on his deal. Homerun!

[Fierce1]

Having a tough time keeping up with the target number.

So ~$18m left to shed to get out of the apron?

I wonder if one of the teams with cap room (Brooklyn, Detroit, New Orleans, etc) would just take Hauser without sending any salary back. That gets us significantly closer. Then he gets a few signature games where he lights us up.

2nd apron is at 207m.

If the Cs want to go below 207m, it has to be KP.

Correct, but there isn't a team who is going to absorb him into space so we'll be subtracting salary and then adding some back. So we'll have to lose a lot more than just him.

Hauser and Pritchard are really our only tradeable middle class contracts. Which makes an easy target if we can get a team with cap room to absorb Hauser, may even have to attach some 2RP's, so now you just removed $10m from that 18. Or do we roll the dice and see if KP can find some suitors before the deadline, or eat all the penalties this season and just let his contract expire?

Either way in Brad we trust, this will be the most interesting off-season of his career.

Reports say most likely it's KP and Sam.

So yeah, in Brad we trust.

This will all be over in a couple of days.

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Am I the only one that just realized Zeke Najji and Naji Marshall are two different guys?

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Has anyone proposed something built around KP to Miami for Kyle Anderson/Highsmith?

I don't love it but it saves money and leaves a couple bodies that can play basketball.

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People are overthinking this in my opinion, Stevens got an expiring contract and two 2nd round picks for a 35 year old who had $104 million and 3 years left on his deal. Homerun!

And if you're going to get an expiring contract, it's hard to think of a better one than:

-A guard (since we are trading one of our guards, Jrue so this gives us an immediate replacement, if we keep him)
-A guy who's 26 so entering his prime..has already had his development years in portland so now he's coming in ready to go.
-Can shoot it well from 3 and on high volume so should fit right in to our system that shoots more 3PA than any team in history

Hard to imagine a better deal for Jrue we could have gotten. Good job, Brad.

[dortmunder]

Reports say most likely it's KP and Sam.

So yeah, in Brad we trust.

This will all be over in a couple of days.

100%
in Brad we trust.

KP, Sam, and maybe Tillman is gone. no big deal, but played zero minutes this year.

[Fierce1]

Has anyone proposed something built around KP to Miami for Kyle Anderson/Highsmith?

I don't love it but it saves money and leaves a couple bodies that can play basketball.

No way!

That's helping Miami.

[Celts17Pride]

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From Portland side, more to come

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I predict KP is headed to either Pels, Lakers or Suns.