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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'd trade it to the sixers for Okafor. Makes sense for both teams. Sixers have too many bigs and the celtics have too many guards.
DK-All Day wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omWaGr-lOx4[/youtube]
He looks really quick and athletic for his size.
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:165bows wrote:I could talk myself into that deal. I loved Okafor coming out of HS but I think the defensive slowness and weakness on the boards is tough.
Big picture though I think he'd look a lot better in Boston than he did last year and he'd be a good bit better of a trade chip in 1.5 years than either what he is currently or #3. So I'd do it as a good investment.
He is slow and his defense isn't great but he can score down low which is what the Celtics need badly. Plus I do wonder how much of a toll it takes on the the players when before the game even starts they already know they have almost no chance to win. Maybe if Okafor is in a more winning situation he simply plays better or digs in more?
Regardless Simmons will be the 3rd drafted player in a row that wants no part of philly. I guarantee he is looking forward to playing there like i look forward to a dentist appointment.
robbie84 wrote:theman wrote:rickrolled wrote:Colangelo likes Euros, he could pull a Bennett from 3 years ago, or anorher Bargnani (Bender).
He could either mess up badly by picking Bender at 1 and have Ingram fall to us.
Or trade down to 3rd, get Dunn at PG (their need) and whatever players and picks we can give the Sixers for #1 pick.
Sixers need a small forward they are using their pick.
Colangelo has a GREAT history in the draft:
...Wesley Person (1st round, 23rd pick)
...Michael Finley (1st round, 21st pick)
...Steve Nash (1st round, 15th pick)
...Stephen Jackson (2nd round, 42nd pick)
... Shawn Marion (1st round, 9th pick)
...Jake Tsakalidis (1st round, 25th pick) - okay that was a miss Michael Redd would have been better.
...Amar'e Stoudemire (1st round, 9th pick)
...Zarko Cabarkapa (1st round, 17th pick) - okay another miss David West, Kendrick Perkins or Kyle Korver were on the board
...Luol Deng (1st round, 7th pick)
...Nate Robinson (1st round, 21st pick) and Marcin Gortat (2nd round, 57th pick)
...Andrea Bargnani (1st round, 1st pick) - miss LaMarcus Aldridge obviously better but this was Toronto.
...Roy Hibbert (1st round, 17th pick)
...DeMar DeRozan (1st round, 9th pick)
...Ed Davis (1st round, 13th pick) - miss Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley
...Jonas Valanciunas (1st round, 5th pick)
...Terrence Ross (1st round, 8th pick) - Should have picked Andre Drummond
That is a lot more hits than misses. There are all stars and hall of famers on that list. I bet Colangelo gets the best player in the draft. I would say his draft history is better than Danny's.
wow I had no idea he was so good at drafting. This is actually good for us because it means he may try and think a little too outside the box and go after Bender (He loved Bargani to death).
b3n wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:I am so bored by the options at #3. For a guy with such an awesome name, Bender is snoozeville as a prospect. Dunn is the kind of guy you are happy to take in the late lotto but a big meh at #3. Jaylen Brown is latest iteration of Maggette/DeRozan.
If we keep it I have a feeling Danny will go with Jamal Murray. He's got the highest ceiling in terms of pure scoring ability, even if he's the least athletic guy in the top 10.
And we all know we need another combo guard.
I'm in the Jamal Murray camp. I don't see us taking him straight up at #3, but trading down for him (I read someone mentioning #3 for #5 & Minny's 2017 1st - I'd like something like that). I found this interesting:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/stephen-curry
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jamal-murray
Anyone else see some similarities?
threrf23 wrote:These are things that I don't think anybody ever said about Steph:
"In limited situations looks timid with the ball when not attempting to score ... The tools and effort are there for Murray to be an above average defender, but will often lose focus off the ball ... Will gamble for steals and hurt the team defensively ... "
But, Murray's growing on me in general.
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1029397
Dunn doesnt want to play in boston.
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1029397
Dunn doesnt want to play in boston.
DoubleHappiness wrote:Bender is growing on me, admittedly, because I have such a limited understanding of him, but the article The Vertical did on him makes him seem like a warrior who just really likes the game. Doesn't strike me as having any Darko qualities at all.
“ See how he adjusted in just one series? It takes some of our young kids years to figure that out. It took him one play. ”
— NBA Scout, watching Darko Milicic
"See how he adjusted in just one series?" one scout whispers into my ear. "It takes some of our young kids years to figure that out. It took him one play." Milicic seems intent on destroying Vranes after the play. His teammates are still ignoring him, but Milicic keeps finding a way to get the ball. Everytime he touches it, something good happens. He takes the ball on the baseline, fakes out Vranes and dunks the ball with surprising authority.
As he walks back up the court, he waves his hands in the air in an attempt to get the crowd into the game. He plays with a passion that had every scout smiling. It's not easy to find big kids these days who actually love to play the game. Too many have been forced into basketball based on size alone. Milicic cares, and many feel that's the difference for him. His passion will drive him to keep improving.
“Darko really is one of a kind. He runs the floor, handles the ball, shoots an NBA three and plays with his back to the basket. So you can slot him at the 3, 4 or 5. Okay, a few other guys can do that too; what sets Darko apart is his toughness in the post. You’ve got to love a guy who has the footwork to spin by an opponent but still prefers to lower a shoulder and bang. Fact is, Milicic plays in attack mode at both ends of the floor. The more you push, the more he pushes back.”
Chad Ford, ESPN Insider, June 23rd Edition, ESPN the Magazine
“Darko reminds me of a young Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt used to do a little of everything, and I haven’t seen a big man with so much skill since Wilt.”
Will Robinson, June 23rd Edition, ESPN the Magazine
“The brothers are going to respect him.”
Brett Forrest regarding Darko Milicic, June 23rd Edition, ESPN the Magazine
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1029397
Dunn doesnt want to play in boston.
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1029397
Dunn doesnt want to play in boston.
London2Boston wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1029397
Dunn doesnt want to play in boston.
He will be traded if drafted by us anyway.
CeltsfaninDC wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I'd trade it to the sixers for Okafor. Makes sense for both teams. Sixers have too many bigs and the celtics have too many guards.
The fact that they are so willing to trade him means he's probably not worth #3. Package up a few of the other #1s the Cs have and make a run at him.