Gordon Hayward Thread

ConstableGeneva · Post #141 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:25 am

Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

brackdan70 · Post #142 » by **brackdan70** » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:48 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

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Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

So I guess If he is going to be the Colts tight end then maybe I would be interested in Butler after all.

ConstableGeneva · Post #143 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:03 pm

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Good to be Gordo.

theman · Post #144 » by **theman** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:29 pm

Has Hayward always had such skinny legs?

2Mas · Post #145 » by **2Mas** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:43 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

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Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

I gotta be honest.. I'm not loving how he looks.

That dunk video he looked really high dribbling the ball. That looked like he's going 65%. It's nice to see him taking a little contact while dunking, but he doesn't look very explosive.

Even if that new video. That little stutter step is like 6th grade pace. I like to see him not super wary of his ankle & moving his feet freely, but i'm not impressed by his quickness at all.

Edit *** This really shows the difference between like being healthy & being nba athlete level ready. If this was an average dude he'd be 100%. But he don't look ready for camp to me.

ballup · Post #146 » by **ballup** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:50 pm

Hayward‘s All Star season shooting splits:
67% Restricted Area
46% In the Paint
38% Midrange
40% Three

I expect these to dip from the injury, but the team‘s spacing and general offense should mitigate some of that. Aside from midrange, those are incredible splits

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cloverleaf · Post #147 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:54 pm

ballup wrote:Hayward‘s All Star season shooting splits:
67% Restricted Area
46% In the Paint
38% Midrange
40% Three

I expect these to dip from the injury, but the team‘s spacing and general offense should mitigate some of that. Aside from midrange, those are incredible splits

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He has had the better part of a year just to work on his shooting, but I'd imagine it'll take time to get his comfort and touch back going to the rim in traffic.

cloverleaf · Post #148 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:55 pm

2Mas wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

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Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

I gotta be honest.. I'm not loving how he looks.

That dunk video he looked really high dribbling the ball. That looked like he's going 65%. It's nice to see him taking a little contact while dunking, but he doesn't look very explosive.

Even if that new video. That little stutter step is like 6th grade pace. I like to see him not super wary of his ankle & moving his feet freely, but i'm not impressed by his quickness at all.

Edit *** This really shows the difference between like being healthy & being nba athlete level ready. If this was an average dude he'd be 100%. But he don't look ready for camp to me.

At least that was a couple of weeks ago and he still has another month before camp opens. But he looks all-around smaller than he was in camp a year ago. Without really fine-tuned total strength, he could slide back to the bench gang more often than he would probably like.

ConstableGeneva · Post #149 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:05 pm

Hayward wearing a Daddy Always Happy hat, it appears...

Spoiler:

johnnyatm · Post #150 » by **johnnyatm** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:50 am

When he returns I would not start him, use him off the bench.

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ConstableGeneva · Post #151 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:17 am

I'd still start him, but pull him (and Brown/Tatum) early in favor of Baynes and Smart/Morris. Ideally, you have either Horford or Hayward on the floor at all times as facilitators/offensive hubs. Let him run the 2nd unit w/ Rozier offball. Have another scorer (either Tatum or Brown) alongside them. Play him less than 30 mpg to start the season. Ramp up his minutes to what he can handle as season goes on. Getting him fully ready and productive come playoffs should be the goal.

But I can see him more of a spot-up shooter who attacks closeouts to begin the season. More of his offensive arsenal will be unleashed as his timing, conditioning, and comfort improve.

31to6 · Post #152 » by **31to6** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:57 am

Bold prediction: he probably won’t have the best season of his career this year but will still be very useful for us. Hot hot hot takez!

brackdan70 · Post #153 » by **brackdan70** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:43 am

31to6 wrote:Bold prediction: he probably won’t have the best season of his career this year but will still be very useful for us. Hot hot hot takez!

Really going out on a limb with one

The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #154 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:38 pm

2Mas wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

Read on Twitter

Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

I gotta be honest.. I'm not loving how he looks.

That dunk video he looked really high dribbling the ball. That looked like he's going 65%. It's nice to see him taking a little contact while dunking, but he doesn't look very explosive.

Even if that new video. That little stutter step is like 6th grade pace. I like to see him not super wary of his ankle & moving his feet freely, but i'm not impressed by his quickness at all.

Edit *** This really shows the difference between like being healthy & being nba athlete level ready. If this was an average dude he'd be 100%. But he don't look ready for camp to me.

It was just more than a broken leg as some people on here have stated. That was a horrific injury and the reality is no matter how hard he works he may never be the same player again. We will see how he looks in training camp but I would not be at all surprised if he isn't ready to play until January or February.

Moose23 · Post #155 » by **Moose23** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:14 pm

2Mas wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Not to "rush" you or anything, but where is that 5-on-5 scrimmage you should be able to participate in by now?!

Read on Twitter

Also, wrong team. **** the Colts.

I gotta be honest.. I'm not loving how he looks.

That dunk video he looked really high dribbling the ball. That looked like he's going 65%. It's nice to see him taking a little contact while dunking, but he doesn't look very explosive.

Even if that new video. That little stutter step is like 6th grade pace. I like to see him not super wary of his ankle & moving his feet freely, but i'm not impressed by his quickness at all.

Edit *** This really shows the difference between like being healthy & being nba athlete level ready. If this was an average dude he'd be 100%. But he don't look ready for camp to me.

The dunk looked more like being deep into a drill to work on conditioning and movement. Was more focused on moving the correcr way as opposed to being explosive.

The second was just fooling around and counting his steps on a play.

George St. Pierre works out the same way. He doesnt explode in his practices and instead moves very slowly to train his body amd mind on a specific series of movements. Once those forms are perfected, then he moves on to something new. He explodes on those moves when the time comes to do so. Not in a practice. This methodology is being used by more and more athletes

https://youtu.be/4nO3SZyRLvk

Cant post the youtube directly but a little clip from Chael Sonnen talking about GSPs training. I expect this is what Hayward is doing

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PierceFan4ever · Post #156 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:04 pm

Chris Forsberg on The Jump said he spoke to Danny Ainge earlier today and he said that if training camp started today, both Kyrie and Hayward would be full ready to go 5/5, scrimmage, etc.

Post #157 » by **Feed Your Head** » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:40 pm

Worry not, negative ones.

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This is pure bull, a miserable poster on the internet told me January/February

Kefa461 · Post #159 » by **Kefa461** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:13 am

The Comedian wrote:Worry not, negative ones.

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this team is stacked....

8-)

celticfan42487 · Post #160 » by **celticfan42487** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:25 am

cloverleaf wrote:
ballup wrote:Hayward‘s All Star season shooting splits:
67% Restricted Area
46% In the Paint
38% Midrange
40% Three

I expect these to dip from the injury, but the team‘s spacing and general offense should mitigate some of that. Aside from midrange, those are incredible splits

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He has had the better part of a year just to work on his shooting, but I'd imagine it'll take time to get his comfort and touch back going to the rim in traffic.

Well kind of hard to work on jumpshooting when you can't jump.

Don't get me wrong, it's nice to practice set foot shooting but still.. live game action doesn't work that way and no matter what he has to wait till he's healthy enough to play 5 on 5 to incorporate any benefits from shooting into his game aside from dead ball situations of which only free throws are the options.