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Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#141 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:47 pm

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That’s how I believe AD’s dad feels too. He’s talking about loyalty when his son’s demanding a trade. Doesn’t make sense. If I was Shelbourne, my follow up would’ve been “would you have wanted him to play there before the IT trade?” And, not to put words in his mouth, but I bet it would be something like “No, that team wasn’t talented enough.”

If the reports of KCP not being included in the trade package, it’s so obvious that he’s just trying to stack all of his players on the same team. That is 100% a conflict of interest and the NBA should launch an investigation. They won’t launch one until LeBron is tired and the headlines settle down and then unveil the corruption 10 years after the fact, because all of this stuff is good for ratings and they’re scared to go after LeBron or anyone in his circle.



On the note of racism, it happens everywhere, but Boston gets a bad rep and I can see why. I’m not from Boston, but I’ve met some folks from there and while most are terrific people, I’ve met some that have floated some racist **** by me that I was quick to shut down. Just a reminder, if ya’ll see someone at a game spouting some racist remarks or just crossing the line with taunting players in general, let them know to cut that **** out. Boston is under the microscope.


The entire country is racist— LA is no different than Boston, which is no different than Philladelphia, Toronto, New York or Chicago. Unfortunately the disease has impacted the country through and through, though I’m optimistic that its being acknowledged and people are working to fix it.


Boston is the punching bag of the east coast due to the busing crisis in the 70s. Apparently racism didnt happen anywhere else during that time. But yeah that stuff will be out there before the deadline. Rich Paul is pulling out all the stops. Then you get LeBron trying to pressure New Orleans to take Lonzo Kuzma and a pu pu platter of scrubs. Its actually quite interesting how the media is playing this for LeBron. I guess this is what happens when LeBron doesn't get his help.

All that being said Boston has been ripped for the last couple days since they have the best package for AD. At this point Ainge is probably going all in on him. Even though i think theres a real risk he pulls a Kawhi from last year and has a "quad injury" which causes him to miss 70 games or so unless he goes to LA.

Oh yeah and the KCP stuff is pretty alarming


Boston’s a punching bag because others are in denial about themselves. To the credit of the city, people are acknowledging our ugly past and are working to make a better future. Here are a bunch of stories about racist Philadelphia/Pennsylvania from the last year:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/starbucks-arrests-ceo-apology-philadelphia-protests-kevin-johnson-20180416.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/04/24/white-golf-course-owners-said-five-african-american-women-were-playing-too-slow-then-they-called-the-police/?utm_term=.8d5c2233c4d2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/youth-hockeys-racist-taunts-arent-limited-to-one-team-one-rink-or-even-one-race/2019/01/10/b2278d34-14f1-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html?utm_term=.b47fad280dc7

This **** happens everywhere. Its a massive problem, and pointing at Boston/Massachusetts and acting like were somehow different than any other place in the country makes it worse— denial is just delaying a remedy for the problem.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#142 » by truth18 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:49 pm

I used to live down the street from that Starbucks. lol.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#143 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:50 pm

Forgive me if this has been mentioned. So, Davis Sr. thinks the Celtics have no loyalty because they traded a broken player for a better player, yet Davis has basically put NO up against the wall by publically demanding a trade. Isn't that the exact definition of disloyalty? He's basically quitting on his team and depending on how big Demps' stones are will determine the return. I'm not even sure I want this guy. However, I am sure I could be swayed. The entitled and the hypocrisy are amazing.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#144 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:53 pm

canman1971 wrote:Forgive me if this has been mentioned. So, Davis Sr. thinks the Celtics have no loyalty because they traded a broken player for a better player, yet Davis has basically put NO up against the wall by publically demanding a trade. Isn't that the exact definition of disloyalty? He's basically quitting on his team and depending on how big Demps' stones are will determine the return. I'm not even sure I want this guy. However, I am sure I could be swayed. The entitled and the hypocrisy are amazing.


Not to mention all of the people LeBron has stabbed in the back, including IT
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#145 » by truth18 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:54 pm

canman1971 wrote:Forgive me if this has been mentioned. So, Davis Sr. thinks the Celtics have no loyalty because they traded a broken player for a better player, yet Davis has basically put NO up against the wall by publically demanding a trade. Isn't that the exact definition of disloyalty? He's basically quitting on his team and depending on how big Demps' stones are will determine the return. I'm not even sure I want this guy. However, I am sure I could be swayed. The entitled and the hypocrisy are amazing.


Davis SR wants his kid in LA and is just lying to the press to try to help that happen. It makes no sense for him to feel that way for the reasons you mentioned in addition to Thomas/Ainge reconciling and Lebron being unloyal to Thomas as well.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#146 » by Scarletfire81 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:57 pm

Ainge mistreated IT so bad, that IT said he was willing to come back. Even IT understood that Kyrie Irving was younger and better. I don't think Ainge knew that IT was hurt as bad as he was either.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#147 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:57 pm

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canman1971 wrote:Forgive me if this has been mentioned. So, Davis Sr. thinks the Celtics have no loyalty because they traded a broken player for a better player, yet Davis has basically put NO up against the wall by publically demanding a trade. Isn't that the exact definition of disloyalty? He's basically quitting on his team and depending on how big Demps' stones are will determine the return. I'm not even sure I want this guy. However, I am sure I could be swayed. The entitled and the hypocrisy are amazing.


Not to mention all of the people LeBron has stabbed in the back, including IT

And not just players. Coaches, GMs, owners. The NBA will be a much better league when this turd is done. If anyone is disloyal, it's this egomaniac POS. Cleveland-left. Miami-left. Cleveland. Left again. Now LA. I mean, why does our society fawn all over a loser like this, just because he's good a a sport? I understand he's done some humanitarian things, but don't be fooled. He's gaining something, I guarantee it.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#148 » by The Corey's » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:59 pm

Does anyone really want a guy who's this desperate to not want to come here?

This is way worse than anything KG said
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#149 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 3:59 pm

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canman1971 wrote:Forgive me if this has been mentioned. So, Davis Sr. thinks the Celtics have no loyalty because they traded a broken player for a better player, yet Davis has basically put NO up against the wall by publically demanding a trade. Isn't that the exact definition of disloyalty? He's basically quitting on his team and depending on how big Demps' stones are will determine the return. I'm not even sure I want this guy. However, I am sure I could be swayed. The entitled and the hypocrisy are amazing.


Davis SR wants his kid in LA and is just lying to the press to try to help that happen. It makes no sense for him to feel that way for the reasons you mentioned in addition to Thomas/Ainge reconciling and Lebron being unloyal to Thomas as well.

Oh, I understand that. However, nobody, especially in the media calls this BS. That was my point.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#150 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:00 pm

The Corey's wrote:Does anyone really want a guy who's this desperate to not want to come here?

This is way worse than anything KG said

Well, keep in mind, AD hasn't said anything.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#151 » by Scarletfire81 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:01 pm

The Corey's wrote:Does anyone really want a guy who's this desperate to not want to come here?

This is way worse than anything KG said



What did AD say exactly?
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#152 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:11 pm

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The Corey's wrote:Does anyone really want a guy who's this desperate to not want to come here?

This is way worse than anything KG said



What did AD say exactly?


He wanted no part of Boston and strongly insinuated it was because the city’s racist reputation. That, IMO, is worse than anything AD/his camp has said.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#153 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:14 pm

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The Corey's wrote:Does anyone really want a guy who's this desperate to not want to come here?

This is way worse than anything KG said



What did AD say exactly?


He's speaking through his agent. Unless his agent his misrepresenting his wishes, it's clear AD wants to be a Laker.

Demps is in a difficult position. If he spurns the Lakers now, he may get even less in July if teams like Boston become convinced that AD is only a rental.

The Lakers need to offer Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart and expiring deals for AD and Solomon Hill. The Lakers also need to send as many first round picks as possible plus swap rights in the alternate years. Since those picks will be in the 20s, there need to be alot of them.

But as I've said, I believe the team that can offer the most right now is Toronto. Masai Ujiri has already rolled the dice on Kawhi, might as well double down on AD. Who knows? Maybe they both stay in Canada.

Ainge is also in a hard place. He can't trade for AD now because of the Rose rule. But if he trades Kyrie before next Thursday and then somehow manages to get AD, the chances that AD will stay in Boston beyond 2020 diminish considerably if Kyrie is gone.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#154 » by ThirtyFour » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:14 pm

shackles10 wrote: What if Smart somehow some way has another notch of intensity.


He just needs that mind stone. Then he’ll cut the league in half.

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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#155 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:20 pm

Anthony Davis will fire Rich Paul once he becomes a Celtic
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But while Irving said all the right things before this season began, things haven't gone according to plan during it, as virtually everyone involved with the Celtics has been some combination of disappointed and frustrated by how this season has played out so far. That has been especially true with regard to Irving, multiple sources said, due to a variety of factors.

Irving is undoubtedly playing the best basketball of his career -- but it hasn't translated to wins. The Celtics are, in theory, more talented than the team that reached Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals without Irving and Gordon Hayward last season. But Boston is in fourth place in the East, getting there only after Friday's win thanks in part to the Indiana Pacers plummeting after losing Victor Oladipo for the season because of a torn quad tendon.

Irving's frustrations have spilled over to other members of the team. He has repeatedly aired his grievances with Boston's young players -- Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier -- through the media, including after a loss in Orlando last month. It was after that same loss that Irving confronted coach Brad Stevens in the huddle for not calling the potential game-deciding shot for him, and Hayward on the court afterward for passing the ball to Tatum instead of him.

The young players have, in turn, been frustrated with Irving. Hayward, meanwhile, was supposed to be Irving's co-star when he signed with the Celtics in 2017. Instead, his Boston tenure began with the devastating broken leg and ankle he suffered in last season's opening game, and he has spent this season trying to get back to the player he was before, leading to frustration being directed at him (as unfair as it might be) from all sides. The result has been Irving often having to try to carry the Celtics to wins on his own against Boston's toughest opponents.”

"At the end of the day, like I said, I've spent the last eight years trying to do what everybody else wanted me to do in terms [of] making my decisions and trying to validate through the media, through other personnel, managers, anybody in this business," Irving said.

"I don't owe anybody s---."

The idea of Durant and Irving playing together in New York had been whispered about previously. But now that the Knicks have cleared a path to signing both of them outright, it has quickly exploded into full-on speculation. It has been thought for months that Durant's most logical destination, should he choose to leave Golden State, would be to come East and join the Knicks. Several rival teams this week said that is their full expectation -- and that was before the Knicks, clearly feeling confident about their chances, used Porzingis to push all their chips to the center of the table.

None of this, of course, has any impact on Golden State's thinking, sources said. Even if Durant went to team brass and said there was no chance he was coming back this summer -- and, to be clear, that hasn't happened -- it's not as if the Warriors would consider the possibility of trading him. Their plan, as it has been all season, is to go win a third straight title this spring, see what happens this summer and then act accordingly.

Boston's belief has been that, despite Irving's frustrations and the protestations of Davis' camp that he would only consider Boston as a rental, if the Celtics can land Davis in a trade in June, both he and Irving will happily be in Celtics uniforms for a long time to come, and Boston will have a chance to create a new NBA dynasty.
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Post#157 » by GrandTheftRondo » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:28 pm

I think I’m going to have a stroke if I keep trying to argue with these delusional moronic Laker fans on the general board
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Post#158 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:29 pm

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shackles10 wrote: What if Smart somehow some way has another notch of intensity.


He just needs that mind stone. Then he’ll cut the league in half.

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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#159 » by OBisHalJordan » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:31 pm

I haven't been following these threads very closely so my apologies if this has been discussed. I don't think that we should simply dismiss the comments of AD's father.

What DA did to Thomas was some scumbag level ****. I know it makes "business sense" but I also know that a fifth of CEO's are sociopaths, straight up mentally ill people with a serious lack of empathy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-small-business/wp/2016/09/16/gene-marks-21-percent-of-ceos-are-psychopaths-only-21-percent/?utm_term=.dbd16a3be132

I hope this development causes DA to moderate his conduct a bit. He's got the team in a good position with assets but there are serious questions about culture. We only see the on court final product. We don't see what's going on behind the scenes. Anyone whose worked for any big organization can tell you that institutional culture is set from the top down in important ways. What kind of messages is DA sending when with his heartless trades? What does that tell players about their "value" to the organization?

I don't blame AD for not wanting to play for a team managed by Ainge. I'm not saying that DA is a "bad GM." I'm just staying AD's concern is legit and deserves serious attention.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#160 » by canman1971 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:32 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:I think I’m going to have a stroke if I keep trying to argue with these delusional moronic Laker fans on the general board

Best thing to do is stay away from that cesspool.

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