Jayson Tatum Thread

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He can realistically surpass Melo for that 4th spot.

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Kobe as a stretch goal?

In 60 games? Even if he played every single one, he'd have to average 36.0834 ppg before his birthday. I wouldn't bet any money on it.

My bad. I thought his birthday was in May, not early March.

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Playoff highs of other All-NBA wings (at least 2 rounds):
Kevin Durant - 6.3 apg
Kawhi Leonard - 5.5 apg
Paul George - 5.4 apg
Jimmy Butler - 6.0 apg
DeMar DeRozan - 4.0 apg

These guys are all 33+ yo. I don't think JT's playmaking has peaked yet.

Playmaking definitely got a lot better, but we need him to improve on his shooting and shot making. Those mean nothing if he can’t be relied on and deliver during crunch times. Last season, Tatum was the 5th guy behind Brown, white, Jrue and KP i would want taking the last shot to save the game. Maybe even behind pritchard. He bricks basically every shot. Even wide open mid range inside 15ft. Those shots should be almost automatic by now. I’m not even confident he’ll sink crucial free throws. He needs to change his form. His shot is not free flowing, and he takes dumb hard turn around fade aways even against smaller defenders, when he can easily just pull up straight. I really hope he does something this off season.

[BK_2020]

Last season, Tatum was the 5th guy behind Brown, white, Jrue and KP i would want taking the last shot to save the game. Maybe even behind pritchard. He bricks basically every shot.

Of those 5, KP had .647 TS%, 3 others had .600 TS% give or take a couple percentage points, and 1 player had .580 TS%. Guess who was the one with the outlier bad scoring efficiency.

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Playoff highs of other All-NBA wings (at least 2 rounds):
Kevin Durant - 6.3 apg
Kawhi Leonard - 5.5 apg
Paul George - 5.4 apg
Jimmy Butler - 6.0 apg
DeMar DeRozan - 4.0 apg

These guys are all 33+ yo. I don't think JT's playmaking has peaked yet.

Playmaking definitely got a lot better, but we need him to improve on his shooting and shot making. Those mean nothing if he can’t be relied on and deliver during crunch times. Last season, Tatum was the 5th guy behind Brown, white, Jrue and KP i would want taking the last shot to save the game. Maybe even behind pritchard. He bricks basically every shot. Even wide open mid range inside 15ft. Those shots should be almost automatic by now. I’m not even confident he’ll sink crucial free throws. He needs to change his form. His shot is not free flowing, and he takes dumb hard turn around fade aways even against smaller defenders, when he can easily just pull up straight. I really hope he does something this off season.

Tatum had a +49 net rating in the clutch during the playoffs (tops in the entire league among players with at least 4 clutch games played) and a +14 net rating in the clutch during the regular season. Seems very reliable to me.

[flintsky21]

Please tell me I'm just being paranoid by thinking that Tatum's Team USA experience is gonna shake his confidence going into next year.

[playa-hater]

Please tell me I'm just being paranoid by thinking that Tatum's Team USA experience is gonna shake his confidence going into next year.

It is in my humble opinion that his Olympic experience should light a Huge Fire. Especially when playing some of those players (and coaches - Kerr). If it doesn't ....

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Total Minutes Played (incl. playoffs) in first 7 seasons of career:
• Paul Pierce: 21,957 mins.
• Jayson Tatum: 21,964 mins.

[Triple7]

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Playoff highs of other All-NBA wings (at least 2 rounds):
Kevin Durant - 6.3 apg
Kawhi Leonard - 5.5 apg
Paul George - 5.4 apg
Jimmy Butler - 6.0 apg
DeMar DeRozan - 4.0 apg

These guys are all 33+ yo. I don't think JT's playmaking has peaked yet.

Playmaking definitely got a lot better, but we need him to improve on his shooting and shot making. Those mean nothing if he can’t be relied on and deliver during crunch times. Last season, Tatum was the 5th guy behind Brown, white, Jrue and KP i would want taking the last shot to save the game. Maybe even behind pritchard. He bricks basically every shot. Even wide open mid range inside 15ft. Those shots should be almost automatic by now. I’m not even confident he’ll sink crucial free throws. He needs to change his form. His shot is not free flowing, and he takes dumb hard turn around fade aways even against smaller defenders, when he can easily just pull up straight. I really hope he does something this off season.

Tatum had a +49 net rating in the clutch during the playoffs (tops in the entire league among players with at least 4 clutch games played) and a +14 net rating in the clutch during the regular season. Seems very reliable to me.

Lol. Just watch the game man. Jeez.

[Triple7]

Please tell me I'm just being paranoid by thinking that Tatum's Team USA experience is gonna shake his confidence going into next year.

I think it should be a wake up call to work harder on his game. If that shakes his confidence, then benching him in the olympic was the right thing to do. Shooting 0-16 on jumpers in the olympics, and shooting poorly in the playoffs should be evidence enough that he needs to tweak his shooting form.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Playmaking definitely got a lot better, but we need him to improve on his shooting and shot making. Those mean nothing if he can’t be relied on and deliver during crunch times. Last season, Tatum was the 5th guy behind Brown, white, Jrue and KP i would want taking the last shot to save the game. Maybe even behind pritchard. He bricks basically every shot. Even wide open mid range inside 15ft. Those shots should be almost automatic by now. I’m not even confident he’ll sink crucial free throws. He needs to change his form. His shot is not free flowing, and he takes dumb hard turn around fade aways even against smaller defenders, when he can easily just pull up straight. I really hope he does something this off season.

Tatum had a +49 net rating in the clutch during the playoffs (tops in the entire league among players with at least 4 clutch games played) and a +14 net rating in the clutch during the regular season. Seems very reliable to me.

Lol. Just watch the game man. Jeez.

I did watch the games. I saw Tatum's team go 6-0 in the clutch during a playoff run that he capped with a 31/8/11 performance to close out a championship. You saw something different ?

Tatum took 17 shots in the clutch these playoffs. It's such a ridiculously small sample size that it's basically meaningless. If a player had to tweak their shooting form every time they had a rough stretch over 17 attempts, nobody would build any kind of consistency. Hell, Hauser is one of the best shooters in the world and he went 1/18 in a game against Sacramento this year. I guess it's back to the lab to work on that shooting form for him too.

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[Triple7]

Tatum had a +49 net rating in the clutch during the playoffs (tops in the entire league among players with at least 4 clutch games played) and a +14 net rating in the clutch during the regular season. Seems very reliable to me.

Lol. Just watch the game man. Jeez.

I did watch the games. I saw Tatum's team go 6-0 in the clutch during a playoff run that he capped with a 31/8/11 performance to close out a championship. You saw something different ?

Tatum took 17 shots in the clutch these playoffs. It's such a ridiculously small sample size that it's basically meaningless. If a player had to tweak their shooting form every time they had a rough stretch over 17 attempts, nobody would build any kind of consistency. Hell, Hauser is one of the best shooters in the world and he went 1/18 in a game against Sacramento this year. I guess it's back to the lab to work on that shooting form for him too.

Green glasses on haha.

[Triple7]

Tatum had a +49 net rating in the clutch during the playoffs (tops in the entire league among players with at least 4 clutch games played) and a +14 net rating in the clutch during the regular season. Seems very reliable to me.

Lol. Just watch the game man. Jeez.

I did watch the games. I saw Tatum's team go 6-0 in the clutch during a playoff run that he capped with a 31/8/11 performance to close out a championship. You saw something different ?

Tatum took 17 shots in the clutch these playoffs. It's such a ridiculously small sample size that it's basically meaningless. If a player had to tweak their shooting form every time they had a rough stretch over 17 attempts, nobody would build any kind of consistency. Hell, Hauser is one of the best shooters in the world and he went 1/18 in a game against Sacramento this year. I guess it's back to the lab to work on that shooting form for him too.

Bro if he played like that majority of the playoffs and the finals, he would have been easily the east mvp and finals mvp. If he played clutch in the finals against the warriors, instead of choking hard, he would have 2 rings by now. If he played clutch in the conf finals last year against the heat, we would not have been down 0-3, and it would have been 3 straight finals for him. His shot is broken. He needs to cock it up before releasing. Its not a free flowing shot. That’s why he can’t just stop on the dribble and pull up like what legit shooters do. He needs to post up, do a turn around fade away or do a side step to shoot. I’m not saying to change his shot, just tweak it. Make it more free flowing. Tatum hadn’t been clutch in a long time, and he needs to improve on his shot making skills. Too many blown layups for him. His body control ain’t great either. A liitle bump, and his shot goes off missing on easy and1 at times. If Tatum can’t do anything wrong with you, then i can’t argue with you anymore. That’s why he got benched in the olympics. He is the worst shooter in the lineup.

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[Shak_Celts]

I pray Tatum never leaves the Celtics, let him continue to ignore the misinformed while he continues to put on for CELTICS!! CHAMP.


Swear, 10 guys in the history of the game does something well and people will say, “Tatum can’t do that, what a bum!” Tatum does plenty of things that many of your faves can’t do, I’ll take that and the Chip(s) any day! Thanks!

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

Lol. Just watch the game man. Jeez.

I did watch the games. I saw Tatum's team go 6-0 in the clutch during a playoff run that he capped with a 31/8/11 performance to close out a championship. You saw something different ?

Tatum took 17 shots in the clutch these playoffs. It's such a ridiculously small sample size that it's basically meaningless. If a player had to tweak their shooting form every time they had a rough stretch over 17 attempts, nobody would build any kind of consistency. Hell, Hauser is one of the best shooters in the world and he went 1/18 in a game against Sacramento this year. I guess it's back to the lab to work on that shooting form for him too.

Bro if he played like that majority of the playoffs and the finals, he would have been easily the east mvp and finals mvp. If he played clutch in the finals against the warriors, instead of choking hard, he would have 2 rings by now. If he played clutch in the conf finals last year against the heat, we would not have been down 0-3, and it would have been 3 straight finals for him. His shot is broken. He needs to cock it up before releasing. Its not a free flowing shot. That’s why he can’t just stop on the dribble and pull up like what legit shooters do. He needs to post up, do a turn around fade away or do a side step to shoot. I’m not saying to change his shot, just tweak it. Make it more free flowing. Tatum hadn’t been clutch in a long time, and he needs to improve on his shot making skills. Too many blown layups for him. His body control ain’t great either. A liitle bump, and his shot goes off missing on easy and1 at times. If Tatum can’t do anything wrong with you, then i can’t argue with you anymore. That’s why he got benched in the olympics. He is the worst shooter in the lineup.

There's plenty of holes to poke at when it comes to Tatum's game. You just focus on the wrong stuff.

Doncic, Young, Curry, Lillard, Mitchell, Haliburton and yes Tatum are the only players to make at least two pull up threes per game last season. Sure he made just 35% of his pull up threes which is on the low end of that group but it's also worth noting that none of the other dudes topped 38% so it's not like they were significantly more efficient (despite the fact that they are the very best shooters in the world).
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/pullup?SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=PULL_UP_FG3M

Tatum shot 71.1% in the restricted area. That's better than Jaylen Brown (66.6%), Zion Williamson (67.4%), Anthony Edwards (69.0%), Victor Wembanyama (69.9%), Joël Embiid (69.9%), Nikola Jokic (70.2%) and pretty much better than anybody that's not a rim running center, Giannis or LeBron among guys that take at least 5 shots in the restricted area per game. You can continue to whine about what you perceive to be Tatum's lack of finishing ability but it's just not accurate at all.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shooting?CF=Restricted%20Area%20FGA*G*5&DistanceRange=By%20Zone&dir=D&sort=Restricted%20Area%20FG%20PCT

Tatum is also pretty elite in the post. 1.09 PPP last season on post ups which was 5th best among the 22 players that posted up on at least 150 possessions. That doesn't really support the notion that he can't handle a bit of contact.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up?CF=POSS*G*150&PerMode=Totals&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=PPP

I wish Tatum could pull up like Curry and finish like Giannis. Just because he can't doesn't mean that his game is fundamentally flawed in those aspects.

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Grandpa LeBron, still a Starter?
Respect.