Celts' Boosters Stall On Reentry (Or Some Rocket Pun Like That)! Loss vs HOU 1/27

[fallguy]

I want to watch the game without being on here, it’s distracting, but I hate that talker brooks. I would take his cocky behind on the Cs, but i hate him. I wonder if that’s what people felt about KG. NOT TALKING ANYTHING IN THE REALM OF TALENT.

I would LOVE Brooks on this team.

What so he can shoot us out of games like Smart did?

3Pt%

Brooks 38.4%
White 37%
Horford 35.9%
Holiday 35.5%
Tatum 35.0%
Brown 32.0%

[playa-hater]

There is NO WAY any of the other 29 HCs of the NBA would have Stone feet Luke Kornet out there, not just once but 2X on defense for the last 2 possessions. NONE Especially after Luke gets blown by after the first possession.

Not even Doc Rivers would do that.

Joe is a Freakin Joke. Indefensible..

It's the regular season.
Luke may be a major piece in the playoffs, if Kristaps is injured and Horfie keeps looking like he is toasted.
The double big lineup is not here to stay, it's another strategy nedded to be developed before the playoff starts as we may need it further down the road.

I am more concerned about Tatum. The guy looks like a glorified Jerami Grant out there...

Not sure.What makes you think the double big's lineup Isn't here to stay. He is clearly playing them so much that it is obvious that's the type of rotation he believes in.

That type of lineup will be picked aapart come playoffs.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

There are positives in this loss.

JB making 2 clutch FTs.

JT scoring on a drive, instead of an outside shot, with 5 secs remaining.

I believe these tough losses will make the Cs more prepared for the playoffs.

And to think the Cs won all the clutch games in the playoffs and finals last year.

Yet another home loss where they played awful defense, yet Brown hit 2 FTs and Tatum hit a layup. Is this really what we are doing to find silver linings these days?

Boston has already played more than 50% of their regular season games. This is clearly a worse version of last years team.

[Garbanzo]

There is NO WAY any of the other 29 HCs of the NBA would have Stone feet Luke Kornet out there, not just once but 2X on defense for the last 2 possessions. NONE Especially after Luke gets blown by after the first possession.

Not even Doc Rivers would do that.

Joe is a Freakin Joke. Indefensible..

It's the regular season.
Luke may be a major piece in the playoffs, if Kristaps is injured and Horfie keeps looking like he is toasted.
The double big lineup is not here to stay, it's another strategy nedded to be developed before the playoff starts as we may need it further down the road.

I am more concerned about Tatum. The guy looks like a glorified Jerami Grant out there...

Not sure.What makes you think the double big's lineup Isn't here to stay. He is clearly playing them so much that it is obvious that's the type of rotation he believes in.

That type of lineup will be picked aapart come playoffs.

He was the one to dismantle the double big lineup installed by Udoka, and as he value threes and floor spacing.
Funny how I still remember arguing with so many on this forum when most supported the double big lineup, which I am against

[redslastlaugh]

Another frustration, Amen Thompson shoots 86% of his FGAs from the 2-pt area. Which makes sense because he’s a career 20% 3pt shooter. Ime Udoka has done a Brad Stevens like job of identifying Thompson’s strengths are playing to those strengths. Mazzulla has a lower impact version of Thompson in Jordan Walsh who’s explosiveness/impact has been completely nullified by Joe’s fixation on shooting 3’s and Walsh this year is 70% (!!!!!!!!) of his FGAs are three point attempts, which is literal insanity.

Would Mazzulla even want Amen Thompson on the Celtics roster??? He shoots 14% of his attempts from three and Mazzulla says percentage of shots from three is the most important stat in basketball… anyway, I really like Amen Thompson, reminds of a bigger Rondo who made 3 Finals, won 2 rings and was either a non-shooter or selective, low volume shooter his entire areer

[Garbanzo]

Another frustration, Amen Thompson shoots 86% of his FGAs from the 2-pt area. Which makes sense because he’s a career 20% 3pt shooter. Ime Udoka has done a Brad Stevens like job of identifying Thompson’s strengths are playing to those strengths. Mazzulla has a lower impact version of Thompson in Jordan Walsh who’s explosiveness/impact has been completely nullified by Joe’s fixation on shooting 3’s and Walsh this year is 70% (!!!!!!!!) of his FGAs are three point attempts, which is literal coaching malfeasance or at the very least incompetence.

Would Mazzulla even want Amen Thompson on the Celtics roster???

It also suggests that Walsh lacks the ability or confidence to drive.
Thompson plays a much more dominant role in Houston compared to Walsh’s role with the Celtics.
It's completely normal for teams to design schemes tailored to their star players rather than those at the end of the bench.

[redslastlaugh]

The point is not primarily a Walsh to Thompson comparison, but that generally Coach Mazzulla has not demonstrated an ability/desire to utilize players outside of maxing out their 3pt volume. He hasn’t played JDD a meaningful minute all year, when he took the job he moved Robwill to the bench, etc… it’s not just about Jordan Walsh, not at all. The point is Brad would never have drafted Amen Thompson because Mazzulla would be unable/unwilling to use him because Mazzulla only thinks in terms of 3pt volume to the deprecation of all other aspects of the sport

[Shak_Celts]

Watch the last play. PP is watching Joe and telling JB and Luke to change places
Joe is to blame here is JB wasn't set when the ball was passed to Amen
Why this change when the ball is in Van Vleet's hand?
Why keep Springer on the bench?

Joe with a very bad move
And Brad should trade a big to force Joe to stop playing the double big
It is not working with the personnel we have

At least we lost missing Al, White and Hauser
Hope we will be healthy comes playoff

Do you have the longer video with that angle? I only saw that half of the court on lp.

watch closely from 07:25
I have league pass and you can clearly see PP instructing the switch
JB just came too fast and lost his footing
JT was lackadaisical closing Amen

What PP was doing there closing the inbound?
Kornet should have closed the inbound and Springer should have been on the court
This is totally on Joe. I hope he learns from it

Watch on YouTube

Ty for the video.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

The point is not primarily a Walsh to Thompson comparison, but that generally Coach Mazzulla has not demonstrated an ability/desire to utilize players outside of maxing out their 3pt volume. He hasn’t played JDD a meaningful minute all year, when he took the job he moved Robwill to the bench, etc… it’s not just about Jordan Walsh, not at all. The point is Brad would never have drafted Amen Thompson because Mazzulla would be unable/unwilling to use him because Mazzulla only thinks in terms of 3pt volume to the deprecation of all other aspects of the sport

Joe Mazzulla did not move Rob Williams to the bench. He inherited a broken down version of Williams who couldn't even play until halfway through the season. After like 10 games off the bench to ease him back in, he then put him back in the starting line-up until he got hurt again. After that, he had Williams come off the bench again until game 6 against Philly when, with the season on the line, Mazzulla decided to start him again. Which is something you only do if you have a lot of trust in a player.

I don't expect the other Mazzulla haters to ground their criticism in reality but you are better than that.

[Fierce1]

There are positives in this loss.

JB making 2 clutch FTs.

JT scoring on a drive, instead of an outside shot, with 5 secs remaining.

I believe these tough losses will make the Cs more prepared for the playoffs.

And to think the Cs won all the clutch games in the playoffs and finals last year.

Yet another home loss where they played awful defense, yet Brown hit 2 FTs and Tatum hit a layup. Is this really what we are doing to find silver linings these days?

Boston has already played more than 50% of their regular season games. This is clearly a worse version of last years team.

Celtics just have no continuity or cohesion because of players being in and out of the lineup.

They prioritize health.

So far it's working as the Cs really have no major injuries.

But like you said, this is a worse version of last year's team.

The solution is just to survive the regular season.

[The Corey's]

There are positives in this loss.

JB making 2 clutch FTs.

JT scoring on a drive, instead of an outside shot, with 5 secs remaining.

I believe these tough losses will make the Cs more prepared for the playoffs.

And to think the Cs won all the clutch games in the playoffs and finals last year.

Yet another home loss where they played awful defense, yet Brown hit 2 FTs and Tatum hit a layup. Is this really what we are doing to find silver linings these days?

Boston has already played more than 50% of their regular season games. This is clearly a worse version of last years team.

Celtics just have no continuity or cohesion because of players being in and out of the lineup.

They prioritize health.

So far it's working as the Cs really have no major injuries.

But like you said, this is a worse version of last year's team.

The solution is just to survive the regular season.

The solution is not to play bad basketball for a entire year and grift your way into the playoffs on mere talent so that when the playoffs start they aren't out to the lunch.

You do realize they can't just mail the regular season in right?

We're long past the point of this being an byproduct of prioritizing health vs useless regular season games.

They aren't very good.

[Fierce1]

Yet another home loss where they played awful defense, yet Brown hit 2 FTs and Tatum hit a layup. Is this really what we are doing to find silver linings these days?

Boston has already played more than 50% of their regular season games. This is clearly a worse version of last years team.

Celtics just have no continuity or cohesion because of players being in and out of the lineup.

They prioritize health.

So far it's working as the Cs really have no major injuries.

But like you said, this is a worse version of last year's team.

The solution is just to survive the regular season.

The solution is not to play bad basketball for a entire year and grift your way into the playoffs on mere talent so that when the playoffs start they aren't out to the lunch.

You do realize they can't just mail the regular season in right?

We're long past the point of this being an byproduct of prioritizing health vs useless regular season games.

They aren't very good.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you.

They have 35 games remaining.
So they need to ramp up after the ASB.

Hopefully their shooting will be better starting tomorrow.

The shooting is really the main culprit.

[ryan in Maine]

Am i the only one who refuses to and 1 a postgame thread after a loss?

[Infinite Llamas]

The spacing when Kornet and Queta share the floor is abysmal. It doesn’t work.

Walsh has to have more to his game than standing in the corner waiting to shoot a three he has no confidence to make.

Our announcers are absolute trash.

Just try Anton watson at this point because maybe a new face will inject something into this team.

Brown getting schooled by Brooks is embarrassing.

That’s all I got after this loss.

[fallguy]

The spacing when Kornet and Queta share the floor is abysmal. It doesn’t work.

Walsh has to have more to his game than standing in the corner waiting to shoot a three he has no confidence to make.

Our announcers are absolute trash.

Just try Anton watson at this point because maybe a new face will inject something into this team.

Brown getting schooled by Brooks is embarrassing.

That’s all I got after this loss.

Even throwing shade at Drew and Scal!

[redslastlaugh]

Okay, aside from Rob Williams, just generally wether it’s Walsh, Tillman, etc, some players affect the game in areas outside of outside shooting. Enes Kanter wasn’t an all star player but he was impactful in a role as big body paint scorer in certain situations. Giannis is a perennial MVP candidate who doesn’t shoot 3’s at a high level. We need to try to get the best version of all our players by putting them in positions to succeed whatever is their skillset, not just shooting.

The point is not primarily a Walsh to Thompson comparison, but that generally Coach Mazzulla has not demonstrated an ability/desire to utilize players outside of maxing out their 3pt volume. He hasn’t played JDD a meaningful minute all year, when he took the job he moved Robwill to the bench, etc… it’s not just about Jordan Walsh, not at all. The point is Brad would never have drafted Amen Thompson because Mazzulla would be unable/unwilling to use him because Mazzulla only thinks in terms of 3pt volume to the deprecation of all other aspects of the sport

Joe Mazzulla did not move Rob Williams to the bench. He inherited a broken down version of Williams who couldn't even play until halfway through the season. After like 10 games off the bench to ease him back in, he then put him back in the starting line-up until he got hurt again. After that, he had Williams come off the bench again until game 6 against Philly when, with the season on the line, Mazzulla decided to start him again. Which is something you only do if you have a lot of trust in a player.

I don't expect the other Mazzulla haters to ground their criticism in reality but you are better than that.

[Infinite Llamas]

The spacing when Kornet and Queta share the floor is abysmal. It doesn’t work.

Walsh has to have more to his game than standing in the corner waiting to shoot a three he has no confidence to make.

Our announcers are absolute trash.

Just try Anton watson at this point because maybe a new face will inject something into this team.

Brown getting schooled by Brooks is embarrassing.

That’s all I got after this loss.

Even throwing shade at Drew and Scal!

They act so immature. They have an obnoxious “big brother” “little brother” vibe and I think Drew would be better alongside someone older and less frat boy. But yeah, are broadcasts are pretty terrible. Constant talk of dunk scores and Scals love for Poetl and spilled beer on the sidelines and Pritchard nicknames…

I’m not anti fun…but I am anti obnoxious lol.

[Fierce1]

The spacing when Kornet and Queta share the floor is abysmal. It doesn’t work.

Walsh has to have more to his game than standing in the corner waiting to shoot a three he has no confidence to make.

Our announcers are absolute trash.

Just try Anton watson at this point because maybe a new face will inject something into this team.

Brown getting schooled by Brooks is embarrassing.

That’s all I got after this loss.

Even throwing shade at Drew and Scal!

They act so immature. They have an obnoxious “big brother” “little brother” vibe and I think Drew would be better alongside someone older and less frat boy. But yeah, are broadcasts are pretty terrible. Constant talk of dunk scores and Scals love for Poetl and spilled beer on the sidelines and Pritchard nicknames…

I’m not anti fun…but I am anti obnoxious lol.

That's the trend now.

People now are more obnoxious compared to the 80s and 90s.

Guess social media like Tik Tok has a lot to do with that.

[31to6]

The spacing when Kornet and Queta share the floor is abysmal. It doesn’t work.

Walsh has to have more to his game than standing in the corner waiting to shoot a three he has no confidence to make.

Our announcers are absolute trash.

Just try Anton watson at this point because maybe a new face will inject something into this team.

Brown getting schooled by Brooks is embarrassing.

That’s all I got after this loss.

Even throwing shade at Drew and Scal!

They act so immature. They have an obnoxious “big brother” “little brother” vibe and I think Drew would be better alongside someone older and less frat boy. But yeah, are broadcasts are pretty terrible. Constant talk of dunk scores and Scals love for Poetl and spilled beer on the sidelines and Pritchard nicknames…

I’m not anti fun…but I am anti obnoxious lol.

over the last few years I've said complimentary things about Scal and Drew individually, but I agree their current trend is downhill -- the Celtics have very smart fans and we don't need it to sound like we're on a booz cruise most of the time.

Obviously the retirement of one of the classiest guys to ever do it was going to lead to a tonal shift. But MSNBC has lots of talent to work with -- including Abi and Eddie -- and I hope the network doesn't just settle on 'R U NOT ENTERTAINED??' as their guiding light for however many years exclusive regional TV broadcasts might remain a thing.

[fallguy]

Even throwing shade at Drew and Scal!

They act so immature. They have an obnoxious “big brother” “little brother” vibe and I think Drew would be better alongside someone older and less frat boy. But yeah, are broadcasts are pretty terrible. Constant talk of dunk scores and Scals love for Poetl and spilled beer on the sidelines and Pritchard nicknames…

I’m not anti fun…but I am anti obnoxious lol.

over the last few years I've said complimentary things about Scal and Drew individually, but I agree their current trend is downhill -- the Celtics have very smart fans and we don't need it to sound like we're on a booz cruise most of the time.

Obviously the retirement of one of the classiest guys to ever do it was going to lead to a tonal shift. But MSNBC has lots of talent to work with -- including Abi and Eddie -- and I hope the network doesn't just settle on 'R U NOT ENTERTAINED??' as their guiding light for however many years exclusive regional TV broadcasts might remain a thing.

My least favorite thing about all NBA broadcasts is how they refuse to talk about actual plays - sets, actions, etc. Every now and then Scal will let something slip about a brush screen or something and Drew will sweep in and make clear that nobody watching knows what that is. I wish the whole league would level up on that stuff.