Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Larry_Russell]

Amen Thompson is probably the only untouchable on the Rockets roster. Only way he's dealt is for Giannis IMO

Ime likes Jalen Green a lot also

I feel like that's him talking up his value - whether he keeps him or not. But Green is kinda roughly thought of as neutral / negative on his deal.

I would be far more interested in Jabari. I think he is a breakout candidate away from Ime.

[lon3lytoaster]

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It’s not ideal but a soft rebuild with the Spurs with Vassell, Barnes and 14 could be an okay return for Brown and shaves some salary in the short term.

[Larry_Russell]

Kristaps, Brown and Celtics first to Houston

Sengun, #10 and Jaylen green to Miami

Jabari Smith Jr, Bam and Wiggins to Boston


Jrue/Pritchard
White/Baylor
Wiggins/Hauser
Smith Jr/Horford?
Bam/Kornet

Give Smith time to see if he gels with the team and if he does look to move Jrue after Tatum has returned to lineup for front court depth.

White
Wiggins
Tatum
Smith Jr
Bam

[djFan71]

Ime likes Jalen Green a lot also

I feel like that's him talking up his value - whether he keeps him or not. But Green is kinda roughly thought of as neutral / negative on his deal.

I would be far more interested in Jabari. I think he is a breakout candidate away from Ime.

Same. But Green is probably involved for salary purposes.

[Hal14]

Kristaps, Brown and Celtics first to Houston

Sengun, #10 and Jaylen green to Miami

Jabari Smith Jr, Bam and Wiggins to Boston


Jrue/Pritchard
White/Baylor
Wiggins/Hauser
Smith Jr/Horford?
Bam/Kornet

Give Smith time to see if he gels with the team and if he does look to move Jrue after Tatum has returned to lineup for front court depth.

White
Wiggins
Tatum
Smith Jr
Bam

There's no way in hell Miami is giving us Bam.

[hugepatsfan]

Tatum will be out next year (his age 27 season). In 26-27 he'll be back, but there's probably a rust factor. My best guess would be that it's 27-28 before he's all the way back (would be his age 29 season) or as close to it as he'll get.

At that point, 27-28 season, White will be going into his age 33 season. Age 31 for Jaylen. Many make it sounds "easy" as trading Porzingis/Jrue now and keeping Brown/White to jump right back to contention with Tatum after. I'm not sure that's entirely likely. I feel like the year that Tatum will miss and the year I expect him taking to "round back into form" will essentially eat up the rest of White's prime (just due to age) and maybe Jaylen's (between his reliance on athleticism and a somewhat concerning history of nagging injuries).

In this 2nd apron NBA, I think Holiday and Porzingis will mostly be viewed negatively on the trade market. You can probably hope for cheaper expiring salary slop filler if you try to move them - anything more probably requires us attaching assets to them which doesn't really make sense to do. White and Brown on the other hand? I think they could return actually useful pieces that might be MORE suited to run with Tatum by the time he's all the way back AND also shed enough money to alleviate some of our tax concerns.

The more I think about it, the more I think it makes sense to just go mega tank and trade Porzingis/Jrue for expiring filler that's cheaper and move Brown/White for actual value. Get a high pick next year, add some youth that can be in place in a few years as the support around Tatum.

[165bows]

If there is any tear down it's keeping Tatum, White and PP and whoever else and targeting Joker over the next 1-2 years.

[bfchs123]

Kristaps, Brown and Celtics first to Houston

Sengun, #10 and Jaylen green to Miami

Jabari Smith Jr, Bam and Wiggins to Boston


Jrue/Pritchard
White/Baylor
Wiggins/Hauser
Smith Jr/Horford?
Bam/Kornet

Give Smith time to see if he gels with the team and if he does look to move Jrue after Tatum has returned to lineup for front court depth.

White
Wiggins
Tatum
Smith Jr
Bam

There's no way in hell Miami is giving us Bam.

I'd just cut out Miami, much rather have Sengun as our new Horford (that said I think this is probably way too much value going to us)

Anyway to get #2 from San Antonio to draft our new PG?

[hugepatsfan]

If there is any tear down it's keeping Tatum, White and PP and whoever else and targeting Joker over the next 1-2 years.

Does it make sense to keep White? He'll be 31 next year. If you assume it takes a year for Tatum to get fully up to speed, White will be 33 by the time that happens. I feel like what they can trade White for now could very well be better (and more financially workable) than what White will be at that time.

[celticgreenie]

If there is any tear down it's keeping Tatum, White and PP and whoever else and targeting Joker over the next 1-2 years.

Does it make sense to keep White? He'll be 31 next year. If you assume it takes a year for Tatum to get fully up to speed, White will be 33 by the time that happens. I feel like what they can trade White for now could very well be better (and more financially workable) than what White will be at that time.

Agree and let's make sure that Spurs pick swap in 2028 has minimal to no impact. We need a good roster by then.

[Fierce1]

Mavs said they won't trade the #1 pick.

So if it's true to keep an eye on San Antonio and Houston if Boston trades core pieces, I want the #2 pick for JB.

Dylan Harper would be a great complement to Tatum.

[djFan71]

Mavs said they won't trade the #1 pick.

So if it's true to keep an eye on San Antonio and Houston if Boston trades core pieces, I want the #2 pick for JB.

Dylan Harper would be a great complement to Tatum.

Teams lie, though. I mean, I think it would take a great offer and it's unlikely they trade it. But just cuz they said they won't doesn't mean they won't. Just like Ime loves Jalen Green.

[fallguy]

If there is any tear down it's keeping Tatum, White and PP and whoever else and targeting Joker over the next 1-2 years.

Does it make sense to keep White? He'll be 31 next year. If you assume it takes a year for Tatum to get fully up to speed, White will be 33 by the time that happens. I feel like what they can trade White for now could very well be better (and more financially workable) than what White will be at that time.

I absolutely love Derrick White and yet I'm compelled by your argument. He is insanely attractive around the league. Would get a really good return.

[fallguy]

Kristaps, Brown and Celtics first to Houston

Sengun, #10 and Jaylen green to Miami

Jabari Smith Jr, Bam and Wiggins to Boston


Jrue/Pritchard
White/Baylor
Wiggins/Hauser
Smith Jr/Horford?
Bam/Kornet

Give Smith time to see if he gels with the team and if he does look to move Jrue after Tatum has returned to lineup for front court depth.

White
Wiggins
Tatum
Smith Jr
Bam

There's no way in hell Miami is giving us Bam.

I'd just cut out Miami, much rather have Sengun as our new Horford (that said I think this is probably way too much value going to us)

Anyway to get #2 from San Antonio to draft our new PG?

I think this is viable. SA needs a star wing. Jaylen has real value around the league even on that salary.

I know nothing about the draft beyond Flagg so not sure it makes sense to take a kid as much as spin the pick to someone else. Would #2 be ready to contribute to a title team by 2026-27?

[Fierce1]

Mavs said they won't trade the #1 pick.

So if it's true to keep an eye on San Antonio and Houston if Boston trades core pieces, I want the #2 pick for JB.

Dylan Harper would be a great complement to Tatum.

Teams lie, though. I mean, I think it would take a great offer and it's unlikely they trade it. But just cuz they said they won't doesn't mean they won't. Just like Ime loves Jalen Green.

It really makes sense to get a guy like JB than a 19-year old rookie if it's win now.

One thing's for sure, can't have 2 supermax guys on one team.

It's just not sustainable.

[lon3lytoaster]

If there is any tear down it's keeping Tatum, White and PP and whoever else and targeting Joker over the next 1-2 years.

Does it make sense to keep White? He'll be 31 next year. If you assume it takes a year for Tatum to get fully up to speed, White will be 33 by the time that happens. I feel like what they can trade White for now could very well be better (and more financially workable) than what White will be at that time.

I absolutely love Derrick White and yet I'm compelled by your argument. He is insanely attractive around the league. Would get a really good return.

Have to agree with this. The timeline on Tatum likely means the best path forward is creating flexibility to build around him the next few years after his return. Will be some hard decisions but the reality of Jaylen and White being in their 30s before you really get Tatum back isn’t insignificant.

[djFan71]

Mavs said they won't trade the #1 pick.

So if it's true to keep an eye on San Antonio and Houston if Boston trades core pieces, I want the #2 pick for JB.

Dylan Harper would be a great complement to Tatum.

Teams lie, though. I mean, I think it would take a great offer and it's unlikely they trade it. But just cuz they said they won't doesn't mean they won't. Just like Ime loves Jalen Green.

It really makes sense to get a guy like JB than a 19-year old rookie if it's win now.

One thing's for sure, can't have 2 supermax guys on one team.

It's just not sustainable.

DAL would have 2 + Kyrie, though.
The best package I could come up with is including Pritchard too since he's cheap and valuable.

BOS to DAL: Brown, Pritchard, 28, 32, BOS 2026 1st, BOS 2028 1st (after swap rights), BOS 2030 first
DAL to BOS: Flagg (after he's signed), PJ, Gafford, Klay

Might need a 3rd team to eat a contract since we can't take back contracts that add up to more than JB since PP is less than any coming back.

I still don't think that's enough.

[Fierce1]

I still think DWhite is worth keeping.

He'll be 33, turning 34 by 2028.

But I think he'll still be effective at that age.

Just trade JB, Jrue, and KP.

Cs have until trade deadline to move KP.

Jrue and JB should be moved before start of the 2025-26 season.

[Fierce1]

Teams lie, though. I mean, I think it would take a great offer and it's unlikely they trade it. But just cuz they said they won't doesn't mean they won't. Just like Ime loves Jalen Green.

It really makes sense to get a guy like JB than a 19-year old rookie if it's win now.

One thing's for sure, can't have 2 supermax guys on one team.

It's just not sustainable.

DAL would have 2 + Kyrie, though.
The best package I could come up with is including Pritchard too since he's cheap and valuable.

BOS to DAL: Brown, Pritchard, 28, 32, BOS 2026 1st, BOS 2028 1st (after swap rights), BOS 2030 first
DAL to BOS: Flagg (after he's signed), PJ, Gafford, Klay

Might need a 3rd team to eat a contract since we can't take back contracts that add up to more than JB since PP is less than any coming back.

I still don't think that's enough.

I think AD has a max contract, not a supermax.

The Spurs are a more realistic trade partner.

But if there's a chance the Cs get Flagg, why not!

[chrisab123]

So all these trade proposals for Brown involve dealing him for a lesser but younger player in the hopes that the player they acquire has a similar impact as…Jaylen Brown. So why not just keep Brown?