2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[themoneyteam2]

Isaiah Stewart is going to be better than most of the kids drafted ahead of him. He's a 6-9 Montrezl Harrell with a 7-4 wingspan. He's also 250 lbs of muscle, not a stringbean like some of these other guys.

I'm a really big fan of his - he was also a top 10 recruit last year. Part of the reason why I'd rather take a wing at 14 than a big since I love getting Stewart at 26 if he's still there

[Bill Lumbergh]

Just watched a mock draft that had us landing Saddiq Bey, Bolmaro, and Paul Reed. I'd be happy with that, as we could stash Bolmaro for a year, and I like both Bey and Reed. Doubt we keep 2 rooks this year, though, but we'll see.

[djFan71]

Just watched a mock draft that had us landing Saddiq Bey, Bolmaro, and Paul Reed. I'd be happy with that, as we could stash Bolmaro for a year, and I like both Bey and Reed. Doubt we keep 2 rooks this year, though, but we'll see.

Sign me up. That's a realistic, and pretty solid haul.

[Spin Move]

Precious is the same height as RWIII, has a worse wingspan and reach, has worse athleticism, less skill and a worse BBIQ. I dont get the fascination other than wanting a new, worse player cuz he has the ‘new pick shine’ to him.

Just gonaa disagree with most of this, Timelord is not more skilled, not faster (though he is a great leaper, but Precious is no slouch there either) Precious may be a bit taller. Timelord does not have good basketball IQ, heis a knucklehead, a nice knucklehead, but a knuclehead, thre is a reason he dropped so much. He is a good athlete. he still has potential, but I do not want to rely on him with what he has shown, he only has 2 more years of team control. I don't think you can look at what he has done and have any real confidence that he will be a good starter in 2 years, maybe he will, maybe he won't but he has not shown enough yet.

[31to6]

What player in this draft would come closest to someone who can slow down Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bam Adebayo?

I’ve been advocating trading up for Okongwu. Not sure he can accomplish what you’re asking, but we need to draft another true big IMO! Love GWill but give us someone with some real height, Danny! (Unless he believes Tacko is the future starting this season:)

I guess one thing I’d do if I really wanted to trade up for Okongwu is start leaking how much I really like Precious Achiuwa?

[Spin Move]

Isaiah Stewart is going to be better than most of the kids drafted ahead of him. He's a 6-9 Montrezl Harrell with a 7-4 wingspan. He's also 250 lbs of muscle, not a stringbean like some of these other guys.

I'm a really big fan of his - he was also a top 10 recruit last year. Part of the reason why I'd rather take a wing at 14 than a big since I love getting Stewart at 26 if he's still there

He is 6'9 and not that Mobile, very strong, good length, but just an old school center. His rebounding rate is lower then what it should have been. He can shoot free throws well so he projects to be able to add a decent 3 point shot but his lack of mobility really limits his fit. Again when your looking at 30, he is one of the youngest prospects and he is one of the beefier if your looking for a guy to throw against the embiids and AD's. His lack of athletiscm though is kind of a dealbreaker for me, he is described as a below the rim guy.

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/isaiah-stewart-scouting-report/

[BostonCouchGM]

Just watched a mock draft that had us landing Saddiq Bey, Bolmaro, and Paul Reed. I'd be happy with that, as we could stash Bolmaro for a year, and I like both Bey and Reed. Doubt we keep 2 rooks this year, though, but we'll see.

There are probably 20+ prospects better than Bolmaro in this draft class. But yes, because of that especially, Danny would probably draft and stash thinking there's a roster crunch. If we're going to take a draft and stash I'd rather it be Poku, Maledon or a couple others rather than Bolmaro.

[Curmudgeon]

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[Curmudgeon]

I'm a really big fan of his - he was also a top 10 recruit last year. Part of the reason why I'd rather take a wing at 14 than a big since I love getting Stewart at 26 if he's still there

He is 6'9 and not that Mobile, very strong, good length, but just an old school center. His rebounding rate is lower then what it should have been. He can shoot free throws well so he projects to be able to add a decent 3 point shot but his lack of mobility really limits his fit. Again when your looking at 30, he is one of the youngest prospects and he is one of the beefier if your looking for a guy to throw against the embiids and AD's. His lack of athletiscm though is kind of a dealbreaker for me, he is described as a below the rim guy.

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/isaiah-stewart-scouting-report/

They said the same things about Montrezl Harrell, who was drafted at #32. Too small, can't jump, no perimeter game, career garbage man, etc. Well, Stewart is taller than Harrell with longer arms (standing reach is 9'2") and blocked 2 shots per game. And unlike Harrell, Stewart is an excellent free throw shooter. More importantly, this kid leaves it out there every game. Runs the floor, dives for loose balls, plays very hard. He will outwork more "athletic" players or a consistent basis. He also has a jump shot, as the second youtube will show.

Defense:

https://youtu.be/0yF3Q0Ig8aw

Offense:

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[Curmudgeon]

Let me add that Stewart won't last until #26.

[threrf23]

They said the same things about Montrezl Harrell, who was drafted at #32. Too small, can't jump, no perimeter game, career garbage man, etc. Well, Stewart is taller than Harrell with longer arms (standing reach is 9'2") and blocked 2 shots per game. And unlike Harrell, Stewart is an excellent free throw shooter. More importantly, this kid leaves it out there every game. Runs the floor, dives for loose balls, plays very hard. He will outwork more "athletic" players or a consistent basis. He also has a jump shot, as the second youtube will show.

They were perhaps right about Montrezl Harrell. It's just that there is value in a career garbage man.

Also, unlike Stewart, I don't recall anyone saying that Harrell couldn't move or couldn't jump. The rap was that he couldn't move well enough to play SF in the NBA, and a 2013 nbadraft.net capsule began with "Long, athletic prospect with great leaping abilities."

Stewart sounds more Samardo Samuels to me. Maybe a better Samardo Samuels, or Samardo Samuels with a better motor, or something. Samuels was a hideously poor rebounder as a a collegiate freshman given his size and strength advantage. Stewart, not as bad. But he has the same size and length, similar strengths and weaknesses if we are talking skills. Second year of college, Samuels shot better than 70% at the FT line, and then purportedly showed promise as a jump shooter in private workouts.

[Curmudgeon]

Stewart is longer and a much better basketball player than Samardo Samuels. Plus Stewart wants it and Samuels (who was happy to flee to Europe) didn't. Feel free to bookmark this thread and we can talk again in February or March.

[threrf23]

Stewart is longer and a much better basketball player than Samardo Samuels.

He is not longer; wingspan is identical (at least going by several old threads @ realcavsfans). Like Stewart, he was considered a top prospect out of high school, and his length was considered one of his bigger strengths.

I don't doubt that he is a much better basketball player, but that doesn't necessarily say a whole lot, and his size and strength won't be as much of an advantage in the NBA.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[captain green]

Karim mane anyone scout him yet? I haven't

[playa-hater]

Karim mane anyone scout him yet? I haven't

BostoncouchGM has..

[ConstableGeneva]

I should start caring more about these guys. I haven't been following the thread. But will we be happy if we get this dude...

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...at 14? ... at 26? Can he contribute right away?

[playa-hater]

For the record, I have no problem is someone wants a different player at 14 than Precious. But damn some of the reasoning has been ludicrous.

[playa-hater]

I should start caring more about these guys. I haven't been following the thread. But will we be happy if we get this dude...

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...at 14? ... at 26? Can he contribute right away?

for your question I have 14 and Yes.

he is one of my top 4 players at 14.

Precious, S Bey, P Williams, Nesmith.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I should start caring more about these guys. I haven't been following the thread. But will we be happy if we get this dude...

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...at 14? ... at 26? Can he contribute right away?

Depends on what youre looking for. He’s not a high ceiling player. But he can contribute right away. Switchable on guards [did real well vs Dotson who is a plus nba-caliber athlete]. 3 point shot is a bit slow on the release and he needs his feet set but he can hit it.

He should be able to be a Jae Crowder type, except better vs smalls than bigs. RoCo has been tossed around, but Covington isnt a good man defender and Bey is.

I’d be happy with him at 14. But he doesnt have star potential.