Hal14 wrote:playa-hater wrote:With the type of talent there is combined with the current lack of talent on this roster there is no way We need to stash a player or put him on a 2 way contract.
After the last pick of the draft , there should be some talent we can bring in as well, maybe those players can be put on a 2 way contract. I expect pick 45 to be in uniform and possibly contribute
Regardless of whether we stash the guy we pick for a year or 2 or put him directly onto the roster, IMO Maker, Aldama and Badji all have the potential to be all-stars. I'd rather aim high, go big or go home here with this pick. These 3 guys have crazy high upside, based on what I have seen. If you've got a chance to get a lottery-level talent with the 45th pick you jump on it.
You pick them with 45th pick rather than waiting to try and scoop them up as UDFA because a) the guy you want might get taken with pick 46-60 and b) even if the guy you want goes undrafted, you're now competing with the other 29 teams to try and sign him
Some people are saying they would even pick Badji no. 1 overall in this draft. Some people are calling Maker a top 10 player in this draft. I think Aldama is also a lottery level talent.
All 3 of these guys probably would be best to stash them for at least a year (maybe 2) though because Aldama faced weak competition in Patriot league so a bridge year would be good playing either in G-league or a tough european league before making the jump to the NBA, Maker only played 2 college games and they were facing weak teams and Badji is only 18 so he needs a year to develop more and we don't really need another center right now
I don't feel like we have a lack of talent on the roster. On paper (when healthy) our roster was just as good this past season as the Suns and they're in the finals. It's just that we had way more injuries than phoenix and worse coaching.
As other people have mentioned, we have too many young guys on the roster as it is - plus we're possibly adding Madar (age 20) to the roster so that will be another young guy. We need to get older, not younger. The 10 youngest teams in NBA: OKC, MIN, MEM, ORL, DET, NOR, BOS, CHA, SAC, SAN. None of them were contenders this season and most of them were at the bottom of the standings.
By stashing our 45th pick, it opens up a roster spot that we can use to sign a veteran player. Someone like a Jae Crowder/PJ Tucker/Marcus Morris type.
Also, most of the guys you are saying you want to pick who would be able to contribute right away (Vrenz, Wieskamp, Thor) are likely to be gone before 45. Vrenz is getting a lot of buzz, he's working out for 14 teams in 23 days according to his twitter. Thor most people are saying he'll be gone in the 1st round, some are even picking him to go in the lottery. Wieskamp will likely go earlier in 2nd round before our pick.
Vrenz, Wieskamp, Thor and Kessler Edwards are all gone before 45 in this mock that was just posted:
http://mavsdraft.com/5th-community-mock-draft/
These guys aren't exactly ready to contribute right away anyways. Vrenz needs to get stronger and work on his shooting consistency before he is ready to contribute to a good NBA team. Thor is only 18 yrs old and is still pretty raw. Wieskamp is probably more ready to contribute right away than Thor/Vrenz (Wieskamp is also more likely to still be on the board for us) but IDK, I'd probably rather go with a guy like Badji, Aldama or Maker who have a much higher ceiling. Wieskamp will give you more over the next 2 years but IMO Aldama/Badji/Maker would you A LOT more over the next 10 years, plus you could sign a veteran player who is better than Wieskamp to contribute over the next 2 years until Badji/Aldama/Maker are ready.
Oh man, have heard some hype recently about Begarin. Just now checking out some footage of him. Holy sh&t this dude is a freak. Really strong build for an 18 yr old. Look at the way Begarin attacks the rim, finishes with authority, very quick/explosive off the dribble, can shoot from 3. 6'6" with a 7'0" wingspan. Picture perfect shooting form from 3. Looks like he shot 34% from 3 this year but that's pretty good for an 18 yr old kid playing in a pro league in Europe.
Highlights from a game Begarin played just 2 weeks ago:
Shows some really good court vision, unselfishness and play making with passes. And just seems automatic, really smooth on his catch and shoot 3 and you see him rive right past his man and score at the rim if the defender plays up on him too much to try and take away his 3 point shot. Yes folks, he's only 18 so this dude will be even better 2-3 yrs from now..
it is almost pointless for me to post a top 3 when the draft is all over the place. This latest mock has my top 3 selected already yet G Brown, I Todd and BJ Boston are all available. Some players I haven't even included in my top 3 because they are more often selected well before our pick.
