Hal’s Draft Thread

[ICeeYou]

I’ve seen him all over the place but he’s my current favorite if he is there at 45.

A lot of the other guys I see in the second round are more role player potential like Wieskamp, Kessler.

The other guy who intrigues me with his physical tools (though his weight could be problematic) is Raiquan Gray.

[sully00]

The key for this whole damn draft is getting another 2nd rder. One pick with all this talent seems like a major missed opportunity.

That doesn't worry me. Again, We need to get older, not younger. 10 youngest teams in NBA: OKC, MIN, MEM, ORL, DET, NOR, BOS, CHA, SAC, SAN. None of them were a contender and most of them were at the bottom of the standings.

That was last season. Since then we added Moses Brown (21 yrs old) and Madar (20 yrs old) could also make the roster. Plus there's our 45th pick. And since this is such a deep draft we'll probably be able to scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2) good players as UDFA.

IMO any trades we make should be to add veteran talent rather than additional draft picks. Lonzo Ball / John Collins (age 23) are the youngest guys we should trade for.

Grab a solid player at 45 and 1 other solid player as an UDFA and I'll be happy. Put them both on the summer league team and training camp and see if either can earn a roster spot or if they should go to the g-league team while focusing on adding good veterans to the roster.

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

[playa-hater]

That doesn't worry me. Again, We need to get older, not younger. 10 youngest teams in NBA: OKC, MIN, MEM, ORL, DET, NOR, BOS, CHA, SAC, SAN. None of them were a contender and most of them were at the bottom of the standings.

That was last season. Since then we added Moses Brown (21 yrs old) and Madar (20 yrs old) could also make the roster. Plus there's our 45th pick. And since this is such a deep draft we'll probably be able to scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2) good players as UDFA.

IMO any trades we make should be to add veteran talent rather than additional draft picks. Lonzo Ball / John Collins (age 23) are the youngest guys we should trade for.

Grab a solid player at 45 and 1 other solid player as an UDFA and I'll be happy. Put them both on the summer league team and training camp and see if either can earn a roster spot or if they should go to the g-league team while focusing on adding good veterans to the roster.

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

in time we will know, but I strongly disagree with this.

[ICeeYou]

That doesn't worry me. Again, We need to get older, not younger. 10 youngest teams in NBA: OKC, MIN, MEM, ORL, DET, NOR, BOS, CHA, SAC, SAN. None of them were a contender and most of them were at the bottom of the standings.

That was last season. Since then we added Moses Brown (21 yrs old) and Madar (20 yrs old) could also make the roster. Plus there's our 45th pick. And since this is such a deep draft we'll probably be able to scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2) good players as UDFA.

IMO any trades we make should be to add veteran talent rather than additional draft picks. Lonzo Ball / John Collins (age 23) are the youngest guys we should trade for.

Grab a solid player at 45 and 1 other solid player as an UDFA and I'll be happy. Put them both on the summer league team and training camp and see if either can earn a roster spot or if they should go to the g-league team while focusing on adding good veterans to the roster.

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

[Celts17Pride]

Joshua Primo is my new "binky". Get back in the draft Brad.

[Hal14]

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

I don't see a ton of upside in Gray. He's a combo 4/5 guy which ideally at that spot you're looking at a guy who's at least 6'9" but Gray is only 6'8" and doesn't jump well. Already 22 yrs old, below average shooter from 3, has the weight/body fat issue. I'm just not seeing it. Maybe he turns into a solid role player off the bench, like a slightly better version of Grant Williams.

Begarin has a really high ceiling. You want to swing for the fences, you pick someone like Begarin, Aldama, Maker or perhaps Vrenz/Greg Brown/Isaiah Todd (if they're still on the board)

[ICeeYou]

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

I don't see a ton of upside in Gray. He's a combo 4/5 guy which ideally at that spot you're looking at a guy who's at least 6'9" but Gray is only 6'8" and doesn't jump well. Already 22 yrs old, below average shooter from 3, has the weight/body fat issue. I'm just not seeing it. Maybe he turns into a solid role player off the bench, like a slightly better version of Grant Williams.

Begarin has a really high ceiling. You want to swing for the fences, you pick someone like Begarin, Aldama, Maker or perhaps Vrenz/Greg Brown/Isiah Tod (if they're still on the board)

I’m sort of meh, on Brown. Seems under skilled/lower BBIQ. Todd just strikes me as a guy who has a massive ego/shot selection issues but yeah there is potential there.

What I like about Gray is he is so fluid and has really intriguing ball handling/passing skills. And he’s very explosive for his frame. If he can keep the weight under control and become a more consistent shooter he could be a problem sort of like a Zion type.

[sully00]

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

I don't see a ton of upside in Gray. He's a combo 4/5 guy which ideally at that spot you're looking at a guy who's at least 6'9" but Gray is only 6'8" and doesn't jump well. Already 22 yrs old, below average shooter from 3, has the weight/body fat issue. I'm just not seeing it. Maybe he turns into a solid role player off the bench, like a slightly better version of Grant Williams.

Begarin has a really high ceiling. You want to swing for the fences, you pick someone like Begarin, Aldama, Maker or perhaps Vrenz/Greg Brown/Isaiah Todd (if they're still on the board)

I can tell you there is probably zero% chance of Gray being a better NBA player than Grant Wiliams. Guys don't change that much after they are 20 years old. Grant Williams dominated the SEC and Gray is a role player in the ACC it just isn't going to happen.

My approach to second round picks is flyer on a young guy with potential (or Euro Stash) or go with the most accomplished player available in the hopes they can help you right away. Messing around in the middle is a mistake you just underestimating the talent evaluators on team's too much. You have to go for guys that teams are just going to take off the board for whatever reason.

[winsomme2]

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

I don't see a ton of upside in Gray. He's a combo 4/5 guy which ideally at that spot you're looking at a guy who's at least 6'9" but Gray is only 6'8" and doesn't jump well. Already 22 yrs old, below average shooter from 3, has the weight/body fat issue. I'm just not seeing it. Maybe he turns into a solid role player off the bench, like a slightly better version of Grant Williams.

Begarin has a really high ceiling. You want to swing for the fences, you pick someone like Begarin, Aldama, Maker or perhaps Vrenz/Greg Brown/Isiah Tod (if they're still on the board)

I’m sort of meh, on Brown. Seems under skilled/lower BBIQ. Todd just strikes me as a guy who has a massive ego/shot selection issues but yeah there is potential there.

What I like about Gray is he is so fluid and has really intriguing ball handling/passing skills. And he’s very explosive for his frame. If he can keep the weight under control and become a more consistent shooter he could be a problem sort of like a Zion type.

Agreed on Gray. Very nimble. Moves like a guard. Also like that he takes and makes FTs and defends the PnR well.

Would be a nice pick up and could definitely jump Grant on the depth chart this season.

[winsomme2]

That doesn't worry me. Again, We need to get older, not younger. 10 youngest teams in NBA: OKC, MIN, MEM, ORL, DET, NOR, BOS, CHA, SAC, SAN. None of them were a contender and most of them were at the bottom of the standings.

That was last season. Since then we added Moses Brown (21 yrs old) and Madar (20 yrs old) could also make the roster. Plus there's our 45th pick. And since this is such a deep draft we'll probably be able to scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2) good players as UDFA.

IMO any trades we make should be to add veteran talent rather than additional draft picks. Lonzo Ball / John Collins (age 23) are the youngest guys we should trade for.

Grab a solid player at 45 and 1 other solid player as an UDFA and I'll be happy. Put them both on the summer league team and training camp and see if either can earn a roster spot or if they should go to the g-league team while focusing on adding good veterans to the roster.

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

I actually see a lot of value in drafting role players. Certainly you would hope to find a diamond in the rough like Jokic but I also like finding a Shake Milton or a Duncan Robinson or a Pat Connaughton or a Devonte Graham type.

I would love a Grant Williams-type.....The problem with Grant is that he fits the "type" but isn't delivering at the level we need.

[Hal14]

The key for me is always to upgrade the roster when ever possible. A good veteran may be more ready than a young player, But young players are talented and cheap and available

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

I actually see a lot of value in drafting role players. Certainly you would hope to find a diamond in the rough like Jokic but I also like finding a Shake Milton or a Duncan Robinson or a Pat Connaughton or a Devonte Graham type.

I would love a Grant Williams-type.....The problem with Grant is that he fits the "type" but isn't delivering at the level we need.

But the odds of being able to draft a player who can come in right away from day 1 and contribute to a good NBA as a solid role player with the 45th pick are slim to none.

Mine as swing for the fences and see if you can land a guy who can potentially be a star down the road, which this article talks about:

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/how-to-draft-with-data-should-mid-first-round-teams-knicks-draft-polished-raw-prospects

More content here, this podcast talks about who we should go for with 45th pick, featuring guest Adam Spinella, the guy who makes those in depth scouting report videos on each prospect.

Spinella says, "you're not likely to get anyone who will contribute in year 1 in the 2nd round - especially not this deep in the 2nd round"

Later in the podcast Spinella says "rather than going for the home run, draft a guy who can hit singles and doubles" when talking about why his top picks for the C's are: 1) Robinson-Earl 2) Quentin Grimes 3) Jason Preston

Spinella also likes Wieskamp and Herb Jones as picks for the C's but says how Jones' shooting scares him a lot and how you need to have 4 shooters on the floor in today's NBA so it sounds like he doesn't see Jones being much of a rotation guy unless he really improves his shot. Sounds like Spinella is higher on Wieskamp but in his. scouting report video on Wieskamp, Spinella says how Wieskamp really struggles guarding people.

He also says Greg Brown and BJ Boston are both high risk/high reward type guys with lots of upside but lots of things to work on, will both require lots of development and even then he says a guy like Brown with such poor decision making, basketball IQ might not make it.

He is also not high at all on Kessler Edwards because his shot is so weird looking that he thinks he shot a decent % but only because of weak competition at Pepperdine and Edwards can't do anything with the ball in terms of creating a shot, driving or anything and defensively while he's good he's a tweener type guy who he's not sure if he guards 3's or 4's.

Good listen, the whole podcast is here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/celticsblog-for-boston-celtics-fans/id1448785876

[winsomme2]

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

I actually see a lot of value in drafting role players. Certainly you would hope to find a diamond in the rough like Jokic but I also like finding a Shake Milton or a Duncan Robinson or a Pat Connaughton or a Devonte Graham type.

I would love a Grant Williams-type.....The problem with Grant is that he fits the "type" but isn't delivering at the level we need.

But the odds of being able to draft a player who can come in right away from day 1 and contribute to a good NBA as a solid role player with the 45th pick are slim to none.

Mine as swing for the fences and see if you can land a guy who can potentially be a star down the road, which this article talks about:

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/how-to-draft-with-data-should-mid-first-round-teams-knicks-draft-polished-raw-prospects

More content here, this podcast talks about who we should go for with 45th pick, featuring guest Adam Spinella, the guy who makes those in depth scouting report videos on each prospect: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/celticsblog-for-boston-celtics-fans/id1448785876

Spinella says, "you're not likely to get anyone who will contribute in year 1 in the 2nd round - especially not this deep in the 2nd round"

Later in the podcast Spinella says "rather than going for the home run, draft a guy who can hit singles and doubles" when talking about why his top picks for the C's are: 1) Robinson-Earl 2) Quentin Grimes 3) Jason Preston

I don't mind drafting a high upside guy like a Bagarin but I think when we look back at this draft we are going to see players that contributed from day one.

For me, that's what makes this draft so interesting. There are players that have the ability of a Payton Pritchard in the second round this year and he contributed day 1.

[sully00]

The talent pool in this draft is a little overrated because it is presently filled with accomplished talents. They look great on paper but unfortunately if they were so great they probably would have been drafted years ago. I may be overstating it but lots of guys 20+ years old in this draft after the first 8 or 9 picks your looking upper classmen there is literally a 23 year old projected in the lottery. I love to buy into the guy who works hard and hones his craft like Pritchard but mostly they are going to be Grant Williams. Good guy, plays hard and you can use him but a future journeymen not a future star. Currently I need to develop stars and buy role players the roster is too young as it is.

I actually see a lot of value in drafting role players. Certainly you would hope to find a diamond in the rough like Jokic but I also like finding a Shake Milton or a Duncan Robinson or a Pat Connaughton or a Devonte Graham type.

I would love a Grant Williams-type.....The problem with Grant is that he fits the "type" but isn't delivering at the level we need.

But the odds of being able to draft a player who can come in right away from day 1 and contribute to a good NBA as a solid role player with the 45th pick are slim to none.

Mine as swing for the fences and see if you can land a guy who can potentially be a star down the road, which this article talks about:

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/how-to-draft-with-data-should-mid-first-round-teams-knicks-draft-polished-raw-prospects

More content here, this podcast talks about who we should go for with 45th pick, featuring guest Adam Spinella, the guy who makes those in depth scouting report videos on each prospect: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/celticsblog-for-boston-celtics-fans/id1448785876

Spinella says, "you're not likely to get anyone who will contribute in year 1 in the 2nd round - especially not this deep in the 2nd round"

Later in the podcast Spinella says "rather than going for the home run, draft a guy who can hit singles and doubles" when talking about why his top picks for the C's are: 1) Robinson-Earl 2) Quentin Grimes 3) Jason Preston

Those are 3 guys are probably the 3 most accomplished players that will be available in the second round and the most likely to contribute in the NBA right away. Agree on those 3 guys especially Grimes.

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[playa-hater]

Agreed on the roster.

I see a lot of guys with role player potential starting fairly early in the first round.

That’s why I’m high on Begarin and Gray for the Celtics pick in the second. Gray in particular is a dice roll (and an older prospect) but if he can control his weight he could be very interesting. Begarin is just so explosive and has good positional size.

Interesting that the Celtics are bringing in Nigel Hayes and Zach Auguste for a workout. Older swing forward types with years of experience playing pro overseas.

I don't see a ton of upside in Gray. He's a combo 4/5 guy which ideally at that spot you're looking at a guy who's at least 6'9" but Gray is only 6'8" and doesn't jump well. Already 22 yrs old, below average shooter from 3, has the weight/body fat issue. I'm just not seeing it. Maybe he turns into a solid role player off the bench, like a slightly better version of Grant Williams.

Begarin has a really high ceiling. You want to swing for the fences, you pick someone like Begarin, Aldama, Maker or perhaps Vrenz/Greg Brown/Isaiah Todd (if they're still on the board)

I can tell you there is probably zero% chance of Gray being a better NBA player than Grant Wiliams. Guys don't change that much after they are 20 years old. Grant Williams dominated the SEC and Gray is a role player in the ACC it just isn't going to happen.

My approach to second round picks is flyer on a young guy with potential (or Euro Stash) or go with the most accomplished player available in the hopes they can help you right away. Messing around in the middle is a mistake you just underestimating the talent evaluators on team's too much. You have to go for guys that teams are just going to take off the board for whatever reason.

Zero chance?

[Hal14]

Spinella's scouting report vid on Wieskamp is up. I was afraid of this - looks like he is not a good defender, gets beat off the dribble by quicker wings and also struggles to defend the post vs bigger guys:

Watch on YouTube

His shooting stroke is beautiful, though..

[Curmudgeon]

Meh. My favorite draft and stash candidates pulled out. So Stevens will have to pull another P Rabbit out of the hat.

[playa-hater]

Joshua Primo is my new "binky". Get back in the draft Brad.

He is one of quite a few examples of how a second Round player maybe better than some lottery picks of Past drafts, example Romeo Langford. If you have a chance to get a lottery talent in the 2nd round price range why would you not go for it.

[Hal14]

Joshua Primo is my new "binky". Get back in the draft Brad.

He is one of quite a few examples of how a second Round player maybe better than some lottery picks of Past drafts, example Romeo Langford. If you have a chance to get a lottery talent in the 2nd round price range why would you not go for it.

I haven't looked into Primo much because from what I have gathered, after his big showing at the combine he is now projected to go late 1st or early 2nd round, pretty much everyone has him going before 45th pick.

Also, he's a combo guard 1 or 2 type guy so I'm just not sure where he would fit on our team and where he would play.

With that being said, he's a high upside/high ceiling type guy with his very good length for a guard, really good athleticism, explosive quickness, pretty good shooter and only 18 yrs old. So a high ceiling and being only 18, he's the type of guy you could stash him on our g-league team for a year or 2, develop him and bring him up a) when he's ready and b) when our backcourt is less crowded

[Hal14]

I actually see a lot of value in drafting role players. Certainly you would hope to find a diamond in the rough like Jokic but I also like finding a Shake Milton or a Duncan Robinson or a Pat Connaughton or a Devonte Graham type.

I would love a Grant Williams-type.....The problem with Grant is that he fits the "type" but isn't delivering at the level we need.

But the odds of being able to draft a player who can come in right away from day 1 and contribute to a good NBA as a solid role player with the 45th pick are slim to none.

Mine as swing for the fences and see if you can land a guy who can potentially be a star down the road, which this article talks about:

https://www.thestrick.land/strick/how-to-draft-with-data-should-mid-first-round-teams-knicks-draft-polished-raw-prospects

More content here, this podcast talks about who we should go for with 45th pick, featuring guest Adam Spinella, the guy who makes those in depth scouting report videos on each prospect: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/celticsblog-for-boston-celtics-fans/id1448785876

Spinella says, "you're not likely to get anyone who will contribute in year 1 in the 2nd round - especially not this deep in the 2nd round"

Later in the podcast Spinella says "rather than going for the home run, draft a guy who can hit singles and doubles" when talking about why his top picks for the C's are: 1) Robinson-Earl 2) Quentin Grimes 3) Jason Preston

I don't mind drafting a high upside guy like a Bagarin but I think when we look back at this draft we are going to see players that contributed from day one.

For me, that's what makes this draft so interesting. There are players that have the ability of a Payton Pritchard in the second round this year and he contributed day 1.

Do you want a guy who will probably be better in year 1 and maybe even year 2 as well (the Pritchard type...someone like a Grimes, Robinson-Earl, Preston) or do you want to draft a guy who might be insanely better in years 3-10? A guy like Begarin, Aldama or Maker (especially since you can always add a veteran player who is likely to be better than anyone we take at 45 for those first 1-2 yrs while your high upside guy develops on g-league team or overseas..)

That's one of the things Stevens and staff must think about..