WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:Fierce1 wrote:The Bucks are not the Celtics.
Imagine breaking Hondo's scoring record.
JT also has a ring now.
It's not like he's CP3 or Steve Nash.
Winning a chip already achieved.
I'm on the camp of keeping the Jays together, but if the Cs do trade JB, it's not a reason for JT to ask for a trade.
As long as JT and White are still on the team, it will be in the hunt, especially if the #2 pick has the potential to become a star.
Like I said, I'm sure Tatum is looking forward to rehabbing then coming back to wait 4/5 years for a draft pick to develop during the prime years of his career.
Realistically, the trade packages being discussed for Jrue and KP so far have been pretty underwhelming. If you remove both of them and replace them with lesser players, is this even still a championship contender? I just don’t see a clear path next year, especially if you keep Brown. The only way they remain true contenders is if they bring back the same core — and that would mean paying a massive luxury tax bill, which seems unlikely.
Don’t get me wrong — I’d like to keep Brown. But you have to ask: what does this roster look like in 3-4 years? You’re potentially looking at an aging Jaylen Brown and Tatum coming off a serious Achilles injury. That’s why if a team comes in and gets desperate, offering a top-2 pick for Brown, I don’t hesitate to pull the trigger. It’s hard, but probably the smarter long-term move.
If you are trading Brown primarily for draft picks then imo you might as well trade Tatum too. People always underestimate the amount of time it takes draft picks to truly contribute to high level basketball.
Even picks who are "good" right away at age 19-20 don't typically hit their winning prime until at least 23 years of age. Tatum was very impactful as a rookie but he didn't really reach his prime until about his 4th season. And that's really as early as it happens for these guys, Jaylen Williams has been really good for the Thunder in his 3rd year, but he was also an older rookie and is 24.
If you pick a 19-year-old chances are you are waiting 4 years before he's really, truly ready to be a #2 on a title team. So you are just burning those years of Tatum's prime. And there's no guarantee anybody you draft EVER even gets there. Here are the #2 picks going back the last 17 years:
-Alex Sarr -> Might be good, too soon to say.
-Brandon Miller-> Might be good, too soon to say.
-Chet Holgren-> Is good but injury prone.
-Jalen Green-> Been a bust so far, high usage chucker.
-James Wiseman-> Huge bust
-Ja Morant-> Good, but not a guy you want to build a team around.
-Marvin Bagley-> Huge bust
-Lonzo Ball-> Bust
-Brandon Ingram-> One time all star now on his 3rd team.
-DeAngelo Russel-> One time all star jounryeman.
-Jabari Parker-> Bust
-Victor Oladipo-> Two time all star who flamed out too young.
-Michael Kid-Gilchrist- Bust
-Derick Williams-> Bust
-Evan Turner-> Fine career, not a star.
-Hasheem Thabeet-> Bust
-Mmichael Beasley-> Bust
How many of those guys who you trade Jaylen Brown for knowing how their careers turned out or how they look so far? Not many. Of those guys the only guy I'd maybe take over Jaylen is Chet, but injuries could derail that.
Trading know all-star level guys for draft pick packages is a rebuilding move, its a move you make when you know you have multiple years of being bad to boost your own draft stock. Its far, far too risky to do when you rebuilding window is one year.
